Ford Trucks to Get 62 MPG?

Rule292 said:

That is correct. I wanted to include the fuel costs to demonstrate how the "mileage tax" was almost as high as the cost of both the gas tax(es) and the fuel itself.

I'm sure that lots of number crunching went on and that regardless of the "scheme" there will be attempts to sneak in increases above what is paid now. My hope is that these schemes are outed with honesty.

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Not to be flippant but the chances of schemes being outed with honesty by the schemers is about the same as me winning the lottery. Maybe, possibly an informed small group of voters might do it but that's about the only hope.

Treefarmer said:

Not to be flippant but the chances of schemes being outed with honesty by the schemers is about the same as me winning the lottery. Maybe, possibly an informed small group of voters might do it but that's about the only hope.

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Correct you are. None of which was in any of the media reporting on the scheme. I'll stop there since it's a political issue but it didn't take but 30 seconds to do the math to see what the "fee" was to drive 12000 miles a year using the new scheme versus the current state/federal gas tax costs.

It was an eye opener to say the least and I have zero doubt it will be covered up until the costs hit the wallet and people start screaming like they did this January over astronomical electric bills.

Back to the 62 MPG Ford which is still a unicorn.

MTB98 said:

The government should ensure a reliable and affordable energy and food supply is available to the citizens.

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I disagree.
Government interference is the cause of instability of these sectors.

Dr Maphesto said:

I disagree.
Government interference is the cause of instability of these sectors.

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You need to read the next part of my statement.
Having no policies regarding food and energy would probably not have the desired outcome. Would you say the US has or has ever had (in modern times, say post- WW1) instability in the food or energy sectors?

MTB98 said:

You need to read the next part of my statement.
Having no policies regarding food and energy would probably not have the desired outcome. Would you say the US has or has ever had (in modern times, say post- WW1) instability in the food or energy sectors?

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Yes. In the seventies when there was no gas in the gas stations and when there was some the lines at the pumps were blocks long. Most of you were not born yet when that happened

bfloyd4445 said:

Yes. In the seventies when there was no gas in the gas stations and when there was some the lines at the pumps were blocks long. Most of you were not born yet when that happened

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I don’t remember that time other than reading about it. The cause was a poor or lacking national energy policy. That is the only time that I know of in the last 100 years.

MTB98 said:

I don’t remember that time other than reading about it. The cause was a poor or lacking national energy policy. That is the only time that I know of in the last 100 years.

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Lots of reasons but the trigger was OPEC deciding to put the screws to the US. I do remember it quite well.

I wasn’t driving yet, but I do remember a summer when you could only buy gas on certain days. It may have been even and odd days.My dad drove one vehicle to work, while my mother would go fill the other one up. Actually I did the pumping as my mother did not know how, or at least didn’t want to. My mother still drives but I don’t think she has ever pumped gas herself. She either has dad do it or she goes to one of the few full service stations .

MTB98 said:

I don’t remember that time other than reading about it. The cause was a poor or lacking national energy policy. That is the only time that I know of in the last 100 years.

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yep, me to. But its time we got away from fossil fuel and into something more efficient.

Treefarmer said:

Lots of reasons but the trigger was OPEC deciding to put the screws to the US. I do remember it quite well.

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Relying on foreign not-so-friendly oil producers was not a good energy plan.

MTB98 said:

Relying on foreign not-so-friendly oil producers was not a good energy plan.

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But we are still dancing to the same drummer today.

bfloyd4445 said:

But we are still dancing to the same drummer today.

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The US is currently the worlds leading oil producer- and consumer. Finding better ways of using oil and having diversified energy sources are important for many reasons.