1025r with Mauser cab.
I am looking to buy a scut/cut too. The thing that is probably my top priority is how hard is it to maintain. I am not very close to any dealer of any size. Closest is a Kubota dealer 20+ miles away and there is a brand new JD dealer almost next door to him that is part of a regional chain so 0 local reputation. The next closest dealers are 40 or 50 miles away. So for me routine maintenance needs to be something that does not require me to fill the swear jar and believe me I have one that has been filled many times taking the deck on and off of my JD x500 garden tractor. I'll never buy another belly mower again. I don't care if they swear it is a drive over and easy as pie, just something about driving over a piece of equipment with a tractor that just doesn't seem right isn't there?First post of potentially many posts…
I know this is a JD forum so I know what to expect, but I also hope many members had the same consideration or consternation for other brands before going JD.
Why am I buying a SCUT/CUT TLB? This is a luxury purchase for me, not a need. On 2 acres of “in progress-final stages” manicured lawn. HOWEVER, property has 20+ oaks and ash, elm trees which results in an unbelievable (LCOs turn down the job to remove the material) amount of leaves to remove each fall and spring cleanup of branches. I am landlocked by 4 neighbors which is also a challenge.
I have a commercial ZTR, have a Trac Vac, have a truck, have a trailer, have lots of nice Stihl equip (see sig), BUT have a miserable time loading (pitch/manure fork) leaf and other spring/fall debris to the transfer station. Basically, I empty my Trac Vac behind my 12x20 shed and then kill my middle aged self every weekend loading the debris before making trips to the dump to remove it. Finally going to break down and buy a TLB for those and other various reasons (tired of paying LCO $1500 to lay mulch every spring, have several areas in need of considerable fill due to sink holes, love doing the work myself , sick of the wait for LCOs to actually show up (if ever) etc).
So I don’t need to be talked in/out of the purchase.
I do need reassurance that a JD 1025R is the best choice. Kubota is out, no dealers locally. JD dealer I am working with is meh but has several branches in New England. Local Massey/Yanmar dealer (literally one mile away) is a hardcore agriculture dealer that moves more Masseys and Yanmars than anyone in my region. Neighbors have Yanmar, NH, Ford, MF GC1725MB, BX23S, etc so little tractors are very common in our four season, heavily treed town.
Do I go 1025R TLB for the $3k premium versus the Massey GC1725MB? Why?
Local Massey/Yanmar dealer can also put me in a SA424 TLB for the same price as the 1025R. Don’t need the SA424 capability but at the same price (cheaper actually) than the 1025R why not go this way?
Can you share your story? I know this a more common than not consideration for a first time SCUT/CUT TLB buyer.
*edited to add that I have physically sat on all the models referenced. All felt good ergonomically but the seats on all left much to be desired (especially when compared with my ZTR seat)
The Massey Fergusson 1526 was brought out to compete with the JD 2025R. It is a little heavier with bigger tires then the GC1700 series Just as the 2025R is a little heavier with bigger tires then than the 1025R but with basically the same power train. I think the 2025R also has a three range hydrostatic tranny but someone here can correct me if I am wrong. The Massey I believe is built in Japan by Iseki who also builds the engine. Massey and Iseki have a long and extensive partnership just as JD and Yanmar. Yanmar, Kubota, and Iseki are the Ford, GM, and Chrysler of Japanese tractors.I can honestly say I have never seen a Massey SCUT........in use, on a dealer lot, etc. which tells me something. Many people purchase what is easy, but some will buy the best regardless of cost and if its really that good, they will make the effort to get what they want, even if that means extra effort, etc. I see the Massey 1500 Series is "back by popular demand"......does that mean the model was made and then discontinued? If so, why and when?
They promote they added a mid pto but I also see from the website its got a 3 speed Hydro which for running on the pavement, is nice. But if you aren't transporting the machine by driving it, I can't see the benefit of the 3 range on the Hydro on the small machines.
The Massey website is surprisingly.......vague. Other than the very round two headlights on it, I really don't see the type of detail I was hoping for, seeing the engine compartment access, etc. It looks sort of like a TYM tractor, with the control layouts and the style. in fact, it resembles the Rural King 24 HP machine in many respects, from what little of it I can see on the website.
Sounds like its either a new model or the return of a model which was discontinued when they talk about "bringing it back with the features and benefits of the residential tractor owner" or however they stated that comment.
I have seen Deere, Kubota, Kioti, TYM, Bobcat and many other small tractors, but I can't say In have seen a Massey. I didn't see anything about it which I would prefer over the Deere equivalent. Also, in the past, Agco charged for their 0% financing option, by selling the machine at a higher price than if you paid cash for it. When you pay a premium to get "0% financing", is it really a no cost loan?
I would get a cash price and a o% interest finance price and see how much the loan is really costing. At least on their SCUTS, Deere doesn't charge for the low cost loan programs.
This was almost exactly my tractor buying story as well. I arrived at the Kubota dealership with check in pocket and was totally ignored. I guess I didn't look the part of a serious buyer. I walked out, drove down the road to the Deere dealership, sat on and drove a 1025R and I was the owner of that same tractor within 30 minutes of walking into the Deere shop.Back in the day when I was looking I originally planned on Kubota. But, as it turned out, when I sent requests for info to 5 or 6 different dealers in my area the Kubota dealer ignored me. In fact only the Deere and Kioti dealers responded. When I put together comparable machines the pricing I git back was almost identical between them. The Deere dealer was closer and was really pushing harder for my business. So I ended up with a Deere.