Got my 3046R back yesterday with its new diverted kit

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · Nov 22, 2021

Got my 3046R back from the Deere dealer with its new diverter kit installed , along with new power top link .

Was a little disappointed it only diverts 2 and 3 from mid to aft .
Have to figure out what to do to divert 1 to mid. ???? If that is even possible . Might have to move it to mid only . Since I did go ahead and order a loader for it. And do need the 3rd function out on the loader for grapple and 4 n 1 bucket jobs.

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dj2520

· #2 · Nov 22, 2021

Yes there is a kit to divert the original one out the back to the middle of tractor. Can’t remember the number right now but I did it on my 3720. I think it included the lines that run up and down the loader frame. Something like bw16180, don’t quote me on that part number. Not at home now so I can’t look. If nobody replies before I get home I will get it to you in the morning.
I use mine for the snow blower deflector. Don’t have a grapple yet but the lines are there now.

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quackaddict

· #3 · Nov 22, 2021

There is a kit. Its somewhere in the $500 range if I remember correctly. I believe it includes the hard lines for the 320 loader as well. There are a set of disconnects that mount somewhere near the other disconnects for the loader.

As dj2520 eluded to I will be using mine for a deflector adjustment as well.

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 22, 2021

I knew there was a line kit, that I ordered with the loader.
I was thinking it would just have the lines on the loader arm.
If they go all the way to the back that would be good.
I only saw one diverter kit, which is the one they installed last week. Turned out it only diverted 2 and 3 from the mid to the rear . I was or am hoping there is another diverter kit for 1 to go to the front with a switch to send it where I want it. Like I have now for 2 and 3.

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dj2520

· #5 · Nov 22, 2021 (Edited)

cc1999 said:
I knew there was a line kit, that I ordered with the loader.
I was thinking it would just have the lines on the loader arm.
If they go all the way to the back that would be good.
I only saw one diverter kit, which is the one they installed last week. Turned out it only diverted 2 and 3 from the mid to the rear . I was or am hoping there is another diverter kit for 1 to go to the front with a switch to send it where I want it. Like I have now for 2 and 3.

It will use the same switch you currently have in the tractor and your loader joystick buttons. It’s all or nothing so I had to order a restrictor from KBOH. Worked great after that.
Scratch that I see you don’t currently have the button, maybe on the new machines you don’t have to turn it on like on my 3720. I am sure somebody will chime in. I’m not quite sure why they have it like that on mine to be honest. But it’s second nature now to just turn the switch on.

I thought I read somewhere on here that it’s a good idea to activate the diverter every now and and then so it don’t seize up. So now on my 4/5 I just turn on and move loader stick in all directions. Even with nothing connected to scv’s.

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bcarp

· #6 · Nov 22, 2021

On a 3046r cab tractor, the 3rd function is run by an electrohydraulic valve plumbed to the back of the tractor and operated by buttons on the loader joystick.

The diverter option diverts functions 1 and 2 plumbed to the mid position, operated by the loader valve and calls them functions 4 and 5 on the back of the tractor.

If you order the third function to be the loader, you get hoses that plug into the rear 3rd function ports and run under the tractor to a set of couplers by the original 4 for the loader, then a combination of hoses and hard lines out to the loader crossmember.

The 3rd function valve then can be used rather at the rear or the front, but it's a the operator that diverts the flow by unplugging hoses. Deere doesn't offer a diverter for the 3rd function and there's limited real estate if you have the 1,2 to 4,5 diverter.

Note that the mower deck lift is normally plugged into the 3rd function at the rear, but could be moved to 4 or 5 or just left disconnected for loader work.

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 22, 2021

bcarp said:
On a 3046r cab tractor, the 3rd function is run by an electrohydraulic valve plumbed to the back of the tractor and operated by buttons on the loader joystick.

The diverter option diverts functions 1 and 2 plumbed to the mid position, operated by the loader valve and calls them functions 4 and 5 on the back of the tractor.

If you order the third function to be the loader, you get hoses that plug into the rear 3rd function ports and run under the tractor to a set of couplers by the original 4 for the loader, then a combination of hoses and hard lines out to the loader crossmember.

The 3rd function valve then can be used rather at the rear or the front, but it's a the operator that diverts the flow by unplugging hoses. Deere doesn't offer a diverter for the 3rd function and there's limited real estate if you have the 1,2 to 4,5 diverter.

Note that the mower deck lift is normally plugged into the 3rd function at the rear, but could be moved to 4 or 5 or just left disconnected for loader work.

That's what we were seeing in the parts book for the 3046R. I was in hopes there was a way to control the 1 Rear or 3rd front with a switch. But I think will likely keep the power top link in the number 2 on the rear which is fwd and back on the joystick when the diverter is activated, and like you were saying, I think I will change the deck to the 3rd on the rear which is side to side on the joystick when diverter is activated. That should allow me to leave the 3rd on the front and #1 on the rear plugged in all the time.

The Divereter kit came with a sticker they put on the back glass, that calls them I, II , III as well as in the cab the sticker on the switch is labeled II & III.
I am taking it to mean 1,2,3 on the rear and 1,2,3 on the front with 3 on the front coming from the rear via that hose kit from the rear #1 routed up to the front.

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 22, 2021

dj2520 said:
It will use the same switch you currently have in the tractor and your loader joystick buttons. It’s all or nothing so I had to order a restrictor from KBOH. Worked great after that.
Scratch that I see you don’t currently have the button, maybe on the new machines you don’t have to turn it on like on my 3720. I am sure somebody will chime in. I’m not quite sure why they have it like that on mine to be honest. But it’s second nature now to just turn the switch on.

I thought I read somewhere on here that it’s a good idea to activate the diverter every now and and then so it don’t seize up. So now on my 4/5 I just turn on and move loader stick in all directions. Even with nothing connected to scv’s.

Well I suppose it very well could be different 3720 to 3046R. I know the 4730 I had was setup quite a bit different with it's hydraulics compared to my 4066Rs Hydraulics. The 4720 was all electric switch control for my rear SCVs. My 3 front were all joystick except the 3rd function and it had an annoying switch to activate it.
Where in the 4066R on the rear I have mechanical levers controlling them, only the 3rd function was electric via the thumb on the joystick.

I had at one point thought there might have been hope of using the same kits we used on the 4720 to add the 4th and 5th on the rear or 1 and 2 rear whatever the proper term is . Which would have kept them independent of the joystick and worked off of electric switches like they did on the 4720, I guess there is not enough room under the tractor for all that on a 3046R. Like there was on the 4720.

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Kennyd

· #9 · Nov 22, 2021

bcarp said:
On a 3046r cab tractor, the 3rd function is run by an electrohydraulic valve plumbed to the back of the tractor and operated by buttons on the loader joystick.

The diverter option diverts functions 1 and 2 plumbed to the mid position, operated by the loader valve and calls them functions 4 and 5 on the back of the tractor.

If you order the third function to be the loader, you get hoses that plug into the rear 3rd function ports and run under the tractor to a set of couplers by the original 4 for the loader, then a combination of hoses and hard lines out to the loader crossmember.

The 3rd function valve then can be used rather at the rear or the front, but it's a the operator that diverts the flow by unplugging hoses. Deere doesn't offer a diverter for the 3rd function and there's limited real estate if you have the 1,2 to 4,5 diverter.

Note that the mower deck lift is normally plugged into the 3rd function at the rear, but could be moved to 4 or 5 or just left disconnected for loader work.

This is exactly how the kit should work, and since its all done with hardlines I can't see how it would be any other way. 1 and 2 being the dump/curl and lift/lower (I can't remember which is #1 though)

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · #10 · Nov 22, 2021

Lift and lower is 1 on the mid and labeled as 2 on the rear. Curl and dump is 2 on the front and labeled as 3 on the rear.

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tawhite78

· #11 · Nov 30, 2021

cc1999 said:
Got my 3046R back from the Deere dealer with its new diverter kit installed , along with new power top link .

Was a little disappointed it only diverts 2 and 3 from mid to aft .
Have to figure out what to do to divert 1 to mid. ???? If that is even possible . Might have to move it to mid only . Since I did go ahead and order a loader for it. And do need the 3rd function out on the loader for grapple and 4 n 1 bucket jobs.
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Nice setup. What's the side attachments on your IMatch called? Thanks.

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Kennyd

· #12 · Nov 30, 2021

tawhite78 said:
What's the side attachments on your IMatch called? Thanks.

They are our iMatch Chainbxes:

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Extended hook for the John Deere iMatch Quick Hitch. KBOH

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cc1999

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 30, 2021

tawhite78 said:
Nice setup. What's the side attachments on your IMatch called? Thanks.

Yep what Kenny said.
Love those boxes.

They may be called chain boxes, but I use them for all sorts of tools, gloves, rags, hitch pins, etc.

Everything I need to have handy when hooking and unhooking rear implements.
I have them on all of MY CAT 1 I-match's from the X758-5115M.
I do have one cat 2, I and wish there was version for the cat 2 hitches.
I do quite often miss having them on that Cat 2 5M tractor.

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