Green Tractor Talk banner

GT235 w/54C deck... replacement Deere spindle doesn't match others. Ideas??

326 Views 10 Replies 6 Participants Last post by  Dirty Harry
Broke a deck blade spindle and had to order a replacement. (Deere has superseded the old part with a newer one. They no longer have ANY of the old spindles.) Problem is... I get it, bring it home and set it next to the old unit and... they're nothing alike - other than being deck spindles. Reverse order from OEM, longer body, so blade will not line up with other two. Do I scour the internet and try and find a used one to replace the broken original, or do I break down and buy 2 more so that they all match??? My concerns are that 1) the deck won't function with the blades at a different height than original, (enough airflow/ vacuum to properly lift grass to cut), and 2) will there be enough clearance to allow unintended debris (rocks, small branches) to eject from deck instead of getting wedged between blade & deck - and potentially busting another spindle.

Anyone else had this same problem? If so, what was your solution? Alternative ideas are welcomed.

Thanks!
  • Wow
Reactions: 2
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
  • Like
Reactions: 1
Okay. So... after scouring through I don't even know how many schematics of various decks, I think I've found spindle housing that more closely matches the GT235's 54C deck. For those who may go through this nightmare, the unit John Deere SAYS is a direct replacement (AM144377) is most certainly NOT.
Automotive tire Motor vehicle Automotive exterior Gas Automotive wheel system

As you can see in this pic I took of the supposedly right spindle, it sits below the deck, while the OEM parts sit on top and pass down through. There is literally no way this spindle would work. The blade, when mounted to it, would sit almost half an inch BELOW the bottom of the deck. Makes me wonder who cross-referenced this when they superseded the original part?!? I cannot imagine why JD says these are the correct ones, and I wonder how many fellas were left frustrated when they took those wrong parts home and tried to install them. My local JD parts guys and I spent the better part of 2 hours pouring over parts fiche pics, calling other dealerships in their network and just basically scratching our heads in bewilderment. I gave up and returned home to hunt around on my own.

Last night, I found what I believe are the right ones. (AM121229) The overall measurements are more in keeping with the OEM spindles, plus the set-up looks to match the original.

I have ordered 1 to see if it will work. If so, I will report back. If not... the search will continue.
See less See more
2
  • Like
  • Helpful
Reactions: 2
Your post is going to make someone very happy someday when they run into this. Maybe me because the neighbor across the street has one of these.
  • Like
Reactions: 3
I cant remember what the machine/deck was but I ran into this about a month ago with a customer. Took the number off his old spindle and it changed up multiple times to that style. I spent about 35-45 min before I got it figured out and ordered. He left his old one behind to compare with the new when it came in and Ive called a couple times but he hasnt come back lol.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
Your post is going to make someone very happy someday when they run into this. Maybe me because the neighbor across the street has one of these.
Absolutely correct.
We bought a GT235 with a 48" deck a couple years ago and I had a hard time matching or finding the correct parts for the deck.
  • Like
Reactions: 1
I can't tell from the picture or the parts drawing, but is it possible to assemble the spindle from the opposite end? Might sound like a dumb question that I wouldn't likely ask if I had both styles to look at in detail. Could it be assembled wrong?

tommyhawk
  • Like
Reactions: 2
I can't tell from the picture or the parts drawing, but is it possible to assemble the spindle from the opposite end? Might sound like a dumb question that I wouldn't likely ask if I had both styles to look at in detail. Could it be assembled wrong?

tommyhawk
That was my first thought when I opended the box. I did flip it, but it's a no-go. I mean it MIGHT work, but it would self-distruct pretty wuickly because the bearing would be exposed and all kinds of crud would get in there and disintegrate the assembly sooner or later. Didn't want that, so I returned and went on the hunt for the correct part.
Well folks... looks like my cobbled together Frankemower will work just fine! Here it is just before blade was put on, thorough greasing and deck reinstall onto my lil' tractor:

It's just such a damn shame that the quiz kids at Deere flubbed this one, especially since it's a pretty popular mower. As I posted above, I'm sure I'm not the first guy who got zonked when he tried to put it back together with the 'official' JD superseded part combo! This confabulation looks identical to my stock spindle units and the blade height seems spot-on. I greased everything, threw on a new set of blades and, after getting the deck back on, took the ol' GT 235 for a tentative test mow ...aaand ZERO problems! Smo-o-oth as silk, with no funky sounds or strange vibes coming up through the mower - and by golly, the path of freshly-cut grass looks uniform and even. Success!!!

So, for those who may be faced with this dilemma in the future, here's the hobo recipe for this GT235/54C spindle assembly replacement:

JD spindle assy p/n: AM121229
JD carriage bolt (8mm x 30mm) p/n: 03M7187
JD flanged lock nut: 14M7396

Neither the bolt nor the nut p/n's from JD worked right either! So we had to piecemeal both to get a proper fit. Then again, this is a mishmash project, so I suppose that's not too surprising. In retrospect, 8x25 bolts might be a smidge better. As you can see in my pic above, the bolts, once tightened down, stick up pretty far. There's no interference or anything but the less thread ends exposed to debris, the easier removal will be if/when that time comes (again). Also, grade 8 from the hardware store might be cheaper than through JD. (Mine were $1.08/ea, so not exactly a bank breaker. LOL))
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 2
What did each spindle assembly cost you?
What did each spindle assembly cost you?
Deere unit was $98. I bought a 3pk thru Amazon for about the same price. Was going to replace all 3, but decided to keep the other 2 in reserve. I will monitor performance of this unit. With luck, it'll last for years, (and I will have a couple spares for when the others give up the ghost).
  • Like
Reactions: 1
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
Top