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I'm hoping you guys can help me find a discharge-chute that'll fit my Power Flow and 3 bagger.
I recently bought this used Powerflow and 3-bag, bagger, but the guy didn't have a chute...

The serial numbers on my Power Flow designate it as being made in 2005, and I think that might be the only year this model was made with a (top-hinged) flap on it's discharge port. My Powerflow seems to be designed for the Chute to fit inside of it's discharge port, not outside like most other Powerflows...

The chute I need will be approximately 6-1/2" tall X 6" wide to fit inside the discharge port of my Powerflow.
The Input port of my bagger is the round 6" size. and already has the angled diverter inside.


Does anyone know the J/D part number for the Chute that'll work for my situation?

My mower is a 1999, 445 (AWS) with 60" deck.
Here's my pics, let me now if you need more pics or info.

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I've been searching the net for pics of Powerflow's. I found 100's of pics of the other Powerflow models, but this is the only pic I've been able to find of a Powerflow model like mine, that also includes a chute & bagger. His Powerflow has the top-hinged flap on the discharge port just like mine. His Chute is also installed inside the Powerflow discharge chute like I need. I realise he has a 2 Bagger instead of a 3-bag system, but I'm thinking a Chute just like his would work just fine for my application...
 

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Could you use a piece of 6" culvert pipe?
 

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Yes I could use Culvert Pipe, but It wouldn't make a good seal at the square flange of my Powerflow. It'd blow grass out at each of the 4 corners...
 

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I'm hoping you guys can help me find a discharge-chute that'll fit my Power Flow and 3 bagger.
I recently bought this used Powerflow and 3-bag, bagger, but the guy didn't have a chute...
I"d guess there's a good reason for that. The PowerFlow head you have was designed for the Deere 1- and 2-bag collection systems. But you have a 3-bag system. No worky!

It looks like whoever you bought that setup from was grabbing parts from multiple machines and trying to cobble something together.


The serial numbers on my Power Flow designate it as being made in 2005
According to Deere Parts Catalog 2111, this is correct.

The chute I need will be approximately 6-1/2" tall X 6" wide to fit inside the discharge port of my Powerflow.
The Input port of my bagger is the round 6" size. and already has the angled diverter inside.


Does anyone know the J/D part number for the Chute that'll work for my situation?
I don't think such a beast exists. All the chutes for that blower are rectangular from end-to-end. So if you wish to use it, you'd have to make your own chute (perhaps by modifying a Deere chute like P/N M73715 ?)
 

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You have grass in AZ???

Just kidding....

My initial thought was along the same lines of using a 6" culvert but keep in mind if you go that route you will be replacing it quite often. I wouldn't expect it to be able to stand up to much use. If you wanted to try and figure out a solution it might work as a temp get it cheap and working solution then go back and buy the more expensive hose that will last. Here is an example of a place that sells the better stuff.

http://leafvacuumhose.com

Now, back to your issue. You need to go from a square hole to a round one or at least that is what it looks like from the photos. Off the top of my head I would try and head over to the hardware store and look in the HVAC Supplies area. You might get lucky and find some adapter made from tin that goes from a square or rectangle opening to round that would be a start in modification. You know another option I just thought of. Look in Criagslist for someone that provides 3d printing services. I just got my first 3D printer but it would be tough to do it for you because we are so far away but you might find someone local that is willing to model and print an adapter to go from your square opening to a normal round 6" where you could use the hose from the link above. If you go this route I would ask for on delivery that the provide not only the part but the .stl file. This is the 3D model that is processed and printed. Ask for this so that in the event that the part wears out (it will eventually) you could take that file to someone to have them print it if the original person is no longer providing those services. I would probably try and find someone that can print in ABS. Technically I can print ABS but I have never tried and it is more fussy. I have done everything in PLA for now but I don't think it will be strong enough to last very long. Might even consider lining a part made with some tin to make it last longer. They won't be able to print the entire part but should be able to print an adapter to go to 6" round.

Other than that, have you tried a dealer? They may be more versed in doing a parts look up on an oddball part or have the means to escalate the inquiry to someone at corporate. I do know that you can access the parts fiche but have found that if looking for something like this it can be difficult. Wish I could be of more help.
 

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I"d guess there's a good reason for that. The PowerFlow head you have was designed for the Deere 1- and 2-bag collection systems. But you have a 3-bag system. No worky!

It looks like whoever you bought that setup from was grabbing parts from multiple machines and trying to cobble something together.


The serial numbers on my Power Flow designate it as being made in 2005{/quote]

According to Deere Parts Catalog 2111, this is correct.



I don't think such a beast exists. All the chutes for that blower are rectangular from end-to-end. So if you wish to use it, you'd have to make your own chute (perhaps by modifying a Deere chute like P/N M73715 ?)
Yes your right, the seller told me this Powerflow and bagger came from different mowers.

I thinking I could probably buy all the componets to convert my 3-bagger over to a rectangular input... Do you know for sure if the outside dimensions of that P/N M73715 chute is around 6" X 6-1/2" ? (I'll call a dealer and have him measure If your not sure...)
 

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Yes your right, the seller told me this Powerflow and bagger came from different mowers.

I thinking I could probably buy all the componets to convert my 3-bagger over to a rectangular input... Do you know for sure if the outside dimensions of that P/N M73715 chute is around 6" X 6-1/2" ? (I'll call a dealer and have him measure If your not sure...)
I do not. The JD Parts catalog doesn't list dimensions. That part number is one of the chutes listed that works with model of the blower you listed. My guess is that the dealers aren't going to be able to tell you the dimensions either unless they happen to have that P/N sitting on a shelf and go and physically measure it themselves.
 

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You have grass in AZ???

Just kidding....

My initial thought was along the same lines of using a 6" culvert but keep in mind if you go that route you will be replacing it quite often. I wouldn't expect it to be able to stand up to much use. If you wanted to try and figure out a solution it might work as a temp get it cheap and working solution then go back and buy the more expensive hose that will last. Here is an example of a place that sells the better stuff.

http://leafvacuumhose.com

Now, back to your issue. You need to go from a square hole to a round one or at least that is what it looks like from the photos. Off the top of my head I would try and head over to the hardware store and look in the HVAC Supplies area. You might get lucky and find some adapter made from tin that goes from a square or rectangle opening to round that would be a start in modification. You know another option I just thought of. Look in Criagslist for someone that provides 3d printing services. I just got my first 3D printer but it would be tough to do it for you because we are so far away but you might find someone local that is willing to model and print an adapter to go from your square opening to a normal round 6" where you could use the hose from the link above. If you go this route I would ask for on delivery that the provide not only the part but the .stl file. This is the 3D model that is processed and printed. Ask for this so that in the event that the part wears out (it will eventually) you could take that file to someone to have them print it if the original person is no longer providing those services. I would probably try and find someone that can print in ABS. Technically I can print ABS but I have never tried and it is more fussy. I have done everything in PLA for now but I don't think it will be strong enough to last very long. Might even consider lining a part made with some tin to make it last longer. They won't be able to print the entire part but should be able to print an adapter to go to 6" round.

Other than that, have you tried a dealer? They may be more versed in doing a parts look up on an oddball part or have the means to escalate the inquiry to someone at corporate. I do know that you can access the parts fiche but have found that if looking for something like this it can be difficult. Wish I could be of more help.

Lol, yes our place here has a couple acres of irrigated Giant Bermuda that grows about a foot tall every week in the summer. - - - Thanks for the link and info. I already have this Chute adaptor that goes from a 6" x 6" square to a round 6". It's also got a bit of an angle that might help a streat chute fit better. It fits the input of my bagger perfectly, and I could easily mod & attach it to a 6" x 6-1/2: Chute. Here's a pic of it. I could instal this Chute adaptor in my Powerflow, and then just use some type of 6" flexible tubung in-between, but I thought I'd at least try to find the correct Chute before I rig something up.
 

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Lol, yes our place here has a couple acres of irrigated Giant Bermuda that grows about a foot tall every week in the summer. - - - Thanks for the link and info. I already have this Chute adaptor that goes from a 6" x 6" square to a round 6". It's also got a bit of an angle that might help a streat chute fit better. Here's a pic of it:
If you can make that adapter work for you, I would go with the round hose. What does the port on the bagger look like? Your photos of your machine made it look more oval. The photo you found on the internet of the 2 place bagger looked round. I think that is going to be a problem if you found an actual chute from JD. My X585 uses a rectangular chute on the powerflow end but I think the dimensions are different than yours. The part that goes into the cart is square so it wouldn't help you at all.
 

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I do not. The JD Parts catalog doesn't list dimensions. That part number is one of the chutes listed that works with model of the blower you listed. My guess is that the dealers aren't going to be able to tell you the dimensions either unless they happen to have that P/N sitting on a shelf and go and physically measure it themselves.
I've already called like 10 different J/D dealers talking to guys in their parts department's trying to explain the situation and find a chute that fits. Most of them don't wanna go back into the warehouse and open serveral different boxes to measure... But I ran across a really cool parts guy in a Minnesota dealer that checked about 30 different chutes he had in stock. He told me the only chute he found that fits inside my powerflow is P/N BM19695. It's made for use with the MC519 cart-bagger, So I'd need to shorten it, but I think i could make it work.

Here's a pic I found of that chute:
 

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I've already called like 10 different J/D dealers talking to guys in their parts department's trying to explain the situation and find a chute that fits. Most of them don't wanna go back into the warehouse and open serveral different boxes to measure... But I ran across a really cool parts guy in a Minnesota dealer that checked about 30 different chutes he had in stock. He told me the only chute he found that fits inside my powerflow is P/N BM19695. It's made for use with the MC519 cart-bagger, So I'd need to shorten it, but I think i could make it work.

Here's a pic I found of that chute:
The problem with that one is the part that will connect with the bagger is square not round or is yours oval? So you will have to cut it off and modify it to fit the opening on the bagger.
 

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Lol, yes our place here has a couple acres of irrigated Giant Bermuda that grows about a foot tall every week in the summer. - - - Thanks for the link and info. I already have this Chute adaptor that goes from a 6" x 6" square to a round 6". It's also got a bit of an angle that might help a streat chute fit better. Here's a pic of it:
If you can make that adapter work for you, I would go with the round hose. What does the port on the bagger look like? Your photos of your machine made it look more oval. The photo you found on the internet of the 2 place bagger looked round. I think that is going to be a problem if you found an actual chute from JD. My X585 uses a rectangular chute on the powerflow end but I think the dimensions are different than yours. The part that goes into the cart is square so it wouldn't help you at all.
Yes the outer part is oval, but I could cut it back to a round, full 6" diameter. I could also convert my bagger to acsept a square or rectangular chute. If your X585 has a Power flow like mine, I'd really like to know the part number of it. It should either have a p/n sticker or the number stamped into the chute itself. Here's a side veiw pic of my bagger input:
 

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Yes the outer part is oval, but I could cut it back to a round, full 6" diameter. I could also convert my bagger to have acsept a square or rectangular chute. If your X585 has a Power flow like mine, I'd really like to know the part number of it. It should either have a p/n sticker or the number stamped into the chute itself. Here's a side veiw pic of my bagger input:
I could go down and look at it but as I mentioned before, My powerflow is a bit different than yours. Same concept but it looks smaller overall. I haven't used mine in a couple years as I retired it from mowing duties but from what I recall it is a rectangle shape on the powerflow end and square on the collection cart end.

That square to round adapter that you posted a picture of above. I am assuming that part fits your powerflow head right? If so that gets you from rectangle to 6" round. If you can cut back the bagger end to make that round then I would go that route. Just watch how much you cut off. If too short the hose will fall off all the time on you.

I do recall from the setup process for a MCS that the chute is too long for a reason. There are markings and depending on your deck/hopper combination they tell you to cut it off at different points. Of course if your application is a merger of a couple versions you won't have an exact guide even if you could find a chute to fit.
 

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Not sure if this link will work for you but I looked up my chute.

Part Number: M156690

https://partsadvisormobile.deere.com/app/catalogs/9146/EN/all/sections/70/illustrations/ST541133,&MP28177________UN24APR02,02S

In the image the rectangular part on the left hooks to the powerflow. The square end on the right goes into the collection cart. The other parts (hook, bungee and such) hold the chute to the powerflow head.
Thanks, and yes your link worked fine;
If that's the Chute you have, your powerflow is a completely different model than mine. That chute apears to have a fairly extreme rectangular shape on the powerflow end.
 

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Thanks, and yes your link worked fine;
If that's the Chute you have, your powerflow is a completely different model than mine. That chute apears to have a fairly extreme rectangular shape on the powerflow end.
Yeah mine is different. Like you said you have kind of an odd ball version. I don't know that I have seen that one. Yours on the powerflow is rectangular but barely. Mine is something like 6" x 8" if I were to guess. Like I said, I haven't used it in a few years.
 

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Why don't you take the power flo to a metal shop and have them make up the adapter for that and the other end to go into the bagger and get the flexible hose to fit?? Be a whole lot easier I would think
 

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Why don't you take the power flo to a metal shop and have them make up the adapter for that and the other end to go into the bagger and get the flexible hose to fit?? Be a whole lot easier I would think
Thanks, that's another good option if I cant find the right chute.
 
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