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I got JD chains for my X580, but I can't get them tight to the tire. The aggressive tread on the X580 rear tire is not
helping either. I jacked up the back of the tractor, put the chains on, and can clip and latch everything, but the chains
are loose. I'm worried that if they are too loose, they will damage the gas filler hose on the left rear fender. The bag the
chains came in say they are the correct chain for that size tire. Hopefully there is a fellow X580 owner that has chains
on their tractor and will be kind enough to tell me how they got them on. Thanks for the help.
 

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I got JD chains for my X580, but I can't get them tight to the tire. The aggressive tread on the X580 rear tire is not
helping either. I jacked up the back of the tractor, put the chains on, and can clip and latch everything, but the chains
are loose. I'm worried that if they are too loose, they will damage the gas filler hose on the left rear fender. The bag the
chains came in say they are the correct chain for that size tire. Hopefully there is a fellow X580 owner that has chains
on their tractor and will be kind enough to tell me how they got them on. Thanks for the help.
Most often chains will come a little on the big side, have you measured by simply overlapping to see if taking out a cross section or two would help. I ended up taking out three on my chains and like you said, they were bought for a specific tire size.
 

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Put your chains on loose,while jacked up,let some air out of the tire.Get them as tight as you can and inflate tire back up,this will make them tight.
 

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Put your chains on loose,while jacked up,let some air out of the tire.Get them as tight as you can and inflate tire back up,this will make them tight.
This is how I normally install them. However even when installed correctly the cross links will have a little slack. Believe me you don't want them really tight. The dealer put my chains on for the first time. They had the tires way over inflated probably to tighten them up. The wheels spun easily and rode rough. After dropping the air pressure to 10 lbs they drove and rode better.

Here are a couple pictures of my chains. You can see they have a little play in them.
 

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Like the others have said , it’s not unusual to have to cut chains down a bit as they are made to fit multiple tire sizes.
 

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I also have a x580 (HDAP tires), with a brand new set of JD chains still in the bag waiting for me to install them. The bag does state they are for the 24x12x12 tires so I'll have to wait and see how they fit.

If they fit anything like the chains did on my Craftsman after I put new tires on it, I may use the same tricks on the 580. On the CM, I had to hook the chains on the inside as far as I could and then on the outside as far as I could. This meant using the links closest to the cross chain. With the OEM tires, I could never get it to reach those links, too tight, but with the same size replacement tires they were too loose. To tighten them up, I used heavy, 12" black rubber bungees, not the cheapo braided color ones. Hooked them up in a V pattern across the outer rim. This provided more than enough tension to remove the slack.
 

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You're better off with a slight amount of slack rather than having them too tight. Most chain installation instructions state that you shouldn't reduce air pressure when installing the chains and then re-inflate to tighten them. Tight chains are prone to breaking.

Chains should be fitted to the O.D. of the tire by shortening the side chains and removing cross bars if necessary. The side chains should be well over the shoulder and at about equal distance on the sidewalls.

Finally the spreader should be used to tighten the outer side chain to take up any remaining slack.

Here's more information: https://www.tirechain.com/Snow-Chains-Garden-ATV-SnowBlower-Instructions.htm
 

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I've never had a problem with chains doing it the method of lowering air pressure to snug/tighten then reinflate to spec pressure,not over inflate to make them tight.This will allow the sidewalls to be tight and allow some movement on the cross link.It's not a one shot deal,it may take a few times to get it right,just as rotating the wheel around to get the chain adjusted as straight as possible and the cross chain even.When all is said and done a test drive to let the chains move and settle in is necessary.If loose I let a little air out to make adjustments then air back up to specs.
 

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You're better off with a slight amount of slack rather than having them too tight. Most chain installation instructions state that you shouldn't reduce air pressure when installing the chains and then re-inflate to tighten them. Tight chains are prone to breaking.

Chains should be fitted to the O.D. of the tire by shortening the side chains and removing cross bars if necessary. The side chains should be well over the shoulder and at about equal distance on the sidewalls.

Finally the spreader should be used to tighten the outer side chain to take up any remaining slack.

Here's more information: https://www.tirechain.com/Snow-Chains-Garden-ATV-SnowBlower-Instructions.htm

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First off, thanks for all for the suggestions, tips and links in this thread. My X580 is now chained up :good2: .
I wound up doing a little of everything. I jacked up the tractor and lowered the tire pressure from 10 psi to 4 psi.
I had to remove 1 cross section to allow the chain to be tightened up enough. After the chain was on, the tire was
re-inflated to 10 psi. The chains are now snug on the tire, but not too snug. Having the chains get stuck in those knobby tires does not make the job any easier. So now I wait for the next snow storm to see much the chains help the tractor
get more traction. Again thanks to all for the help.
 

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Thank you for posting a follow up post to let us know you have worked on resolving your problems. It's important for the usefulness of the thread for others who read it in the future to know whether the suggestion made helped you fix the issue you were having.

Once you have the chain cut with bolt cutters to properly fit the tire, then I have installed them and once installed, then used the tensioner devices I have linked to and posted photo of below on the outside of the rear tires.

Just make sure to get the sizes which will stretch to be very tight for your tire. My biggest issue with the selling of these is their application chart is terrible.

I have a 455 with the same rear tires as your machine. If you would like, I can measure the tensioners I use and post a photo with the dimensions for you so you know which size to buy. If you would like me to do this, just send me a Private Message and I would be glad to do this for you.

I would strongly suggest you use TWO of these on the outside of EACH rear tire. These will snug the chains up and make taking them off and on for next season so much easier. Once I began using these, the chain troubles ended. Plus the hot pink clips add a sense of fashion to your tractors tire chains.....:laugh:



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tire-Chain-Tightener-For-Snowblowers-and-Medium-Garden-Tractors/46378830?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227036293237&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=70042798609&wl4=pla-157461790369&wl5=9017364&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=46378830&wl13=&veh=sem
 

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As always make sure to tie up any extra links. I usually use plastic zip ties.

I pull out the valve stem core before mounting the chains. Then inflate them to 10 lbs. I think that they are afraid of you pinching the tire. That's why the instructions say to not lower the tire pressure before installing chains.

After the installation. I always spin the tires while it's still on the jack. Just to make sure they are not hitting anything.

Also 2 different brands of tires may have a different outside diameter even though they are listed as the same size.
 

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Sulleybear,
What do the tensioners do ? Do you use those when you can't get the chains tight enough ? The chains are half way
down the side of the tire and I can't imagine them falling off.
H-D dealer dude,
Funny you mentioned about the different sizes. One tire was 1 link bigger than the other. I just thought that the
chain on one side were sitting higher on the tire tread (and those tires have a LOT of tread). And I did zip tie the
extra links.
 
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