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I figure a few of you ex-military may have some insight into this. Many years ago when I was in the Army Reserves a few of us came up with the bright idea of applying Kiwi Honor Guard Instant Spit Shine to our boots.

Leather Honor Guard Instant Spit Shine :: KIWI care products

It is almost like gloss black paint. Does anyone have any ideas how to strip it from a pair of boots? I actually don't care about the shine (or lack of), but the stuff is like plastic and I want to put some Obenauf's on the boots, but it just wipes off due to the Honor Guard coating. I didn't want to go right to paint stripper because I'm sure that is horrible for leather.

And before you ask, yes, we eventually got in trouble for doing it.
 

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I have no idea, andy b., but maybe you could try to clean the boots really well with some saddle soap. That stuff you used says it is "water resistant", not waterproof. Maybe a good soaking with the saddle soap, will loosen its hold. Then you can use a good leather conditioner on the boots after, to try to protect the leather.
 

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Can't say for sure. Maybe a one way street. Never tried to clean up something like that.
 

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fg,

It's pretty "water resistant". :laugh:

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That's what I'm afraid of. I guess they are going to start cracking anyway without being able to condition them, so I may as well try some MEK and see what happens. Then I'll have to soak them with Lexol and apply some Obenauf's.
 

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I never used instant spit shine. I was always the company expert on doing it the old fashioned way. If I remember correctly someone in our unit used it before he came to us. I think he tried to remove it but I cannot remember what he did or whether it worked or not. I still talk with a lot of them and will see if anyone remembers.
 

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Kenny,

Let me know if you find anything out. Yeah, after this incident, I went back to the old fashioned way. I never used the Instant Spit Shine again.

I'll post a pic tomorrow of them.
 

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Plain old shave cream and a stiff brush from the motorpool wash rack got most of it off, just like stripping new boots.
Let it sit on there and get into the leather a bit, then scrub like a crack addict with poison ivy.
Once the obernaufs gets in the leather, any of the remaining gunk will flake off. Corn huskers hand lotion and Neatsfoot oil was our mix.
You will likely have to re-dye just like when breaking down new boots though.

We called that crap "Instant Field boot". Once it was on a pair of boots, it cracked, peeled, and looked worse than clapped out cadillacs with a brush shine.
From there, they were only good for humping the happy hills or slogging in the stumps.

It never failed that at least a couple newbies would try that junk within weeks of them reporting in.
Whoever invented the stuff must have a DOD boot contract.
 

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Plain old shave cream and a stiff brush from the motorpool wash rack got most of it off, just like stripping new boots.
Let it sit on there and get into the leather a bit, then scrub like a crack addict with poison ivy.
Once the obernaufs gets in the leather, any of the remaining gunk will flake off. Corn huskers hand lotion and Neatsfoot oil was our mix.
You will likely have to re-dye just like when breaking down new boots though.

We called that crap "Instant Field boot". Once it was on a pair of boots, it cracked, peeled, and looked worse than clapped out cadillacs with a brush shine.
From there, they were only good for humping the happy hills or slogging in the stumps.

It never failed that at least a couple newbies would try that junk within weeks of them reporting in.
Whoever invented the stuff must have a DOD boot contract.
Never thought about shaving cream, a body repair man told me once to use shaving cream to clean my hands before touching metal ready to paint. He also said about using shaving cream to remove grease from on my hands. Its a good hand cleaner.
 

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I think you got some good advice andy b. I never used it either, but spent many hours spit shining boots the old fashioned way. I always liked the old Army issue combat boots for comfort.

Another option for you would be to re-enlist and get the new rough out leather boots.:usa
 

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Another option for you would be to re-enlist and get the new rough out leather boots.:usa
:lol: I'm sure they wouldn't have me!

So here they are. Yes, they are old Corcoran Tanker Boots. Yes, after several months the First Sergeant announced that only standard issue footwear was allowed and no "Instant Spit Shine", due to my friends and I. Yes, the First Sergeant and I spent a lot of time together discussing military protocol. :laugh: I even remember his name, First Sergeant Tom Maxwell. He was pretty cool to put up with the shenanigans of a young lad like myself.

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I'm going to give the MEK and acetone a try. I don't have any shaving cream at present, and I doubt running a Norelco rechargeable shaver over the boots will have any effect.

At the very worst they may end up looking like the new issue rough-out boots. :laugh:
 

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Can't believe you put that stuff on Corcorans.

Funny how we remember some of those guys from the military. I still remember my Drill Sergeant from basic training in 1965 - SSG Barcena.
 

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Glad I was in Army aviation! We never were into the spit shine stuff. Always had one pristine pair of jump boots that I had done up by the guy at the shoe shine shop in the barber shop. Tanker boots always looked nice. We had simular ones that had zippers in the side. getting dressed was easy.. Underwear, t shirt, zip on the Nomex, zip on the boots.. done. Lazy aviation! LOL!
 

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Were you stationed at Wainwright? Your avatar shows a Chinook with skis. The only outfit I knew that had skis was there at Ft. Wainwright. They had the HART team there.
 

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Were you stationed at Wainwright? Your avatar shows a Chinook with skis. The only outfit I knew that had skis was there at Ft. Wainwright. They had the HART team there.
Yup over 7 years a SugarBear. 83-87, 89-92 Our HART team was the best there was. Highest winch rescue ever. Off the west buttress of McKinnley... 19,800. Hovering and winching up the climbers. We flew with skis year round. kept the beast from sinking in the muskeg during the summer. Plus the mtns had snow year round anyway.
 

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I served with the medevac in hangar 6. I was the first UH-60 crewchief to be assigned to the med. All the other guys were Huey guys who were magically turned into 67Ts in a week by a single instructor. :lol: They had acquired "new" A models from Hawaii. They were in terrible condition. Once we whipped them into shape, they were pretty good machines for rescue in Alaska. I flew many hours with that outfit. Good times. :drinks:
 

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I served with the medevac in hangar 6. I was the first UH-60 crewchief to be assigned to the med. All the other guys were Huey guys who were magically turned into 67Ts in a week by a single instructor. :lol: They had acquired "new" A models from Hawaii. They were in terrible condition. Once we whipped them into shape, they were pretty good machines for rescue in Alaska. I flew many hours with that outfit. Good times. :drinks:
Yup.. many days and nights in hangar 6. We had 4&5 for maint. and hangar 6 was flight platoons and ops. We got hangar 6 when the OV-1's moved out. They used the Mowhawks for pipeline security. Medivac and fixed wing VIP were in 1. They tore down some of the old hangars. Hooks moved back to Hanger 1 where they were originally. Only uh-60's we had when I was there were 4 EH-60's. At first getting a Hawk to operate in the cold was a real challenge. Yeah I remember all the Huey guys going to Tango school when I was at Campbell with the 101st. Did you have an instructor at Eustis with the name Larry Dunn?
Correction to previous post.. highest hoist rescue was 18, 200.
 

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Yup.. many days and nights in hangar 6. We had 4&5 for maint. and hangar 6 was flight platoons and ops. We got hangar 6 when the OV-1's moved out. They used the Mowhawks for pipeline security. Medivac and fixed wing VIP were in 1. They tore down some of the old hangars. Hooks moved back to Hanger 1 where they were originally. Only uh-60's we had when I was there were 4 EH-60's. At first getting a Hawk to operate in the cold was a real challenge. Yeah I remember all the Huey guys going to Tango school when I was at Campbell with the 101st. Did you have an instructor at Eustis with the name Larry Dunn?
Correction to previous post.. highest hoist rescue was 18, 200.
Can't remember who the instructors were. I've slept since then. :lol:


Sorry for the hijack Andy. :hi:
 

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Can't remember who the instructors were. I've slept since then. :lol:


Sorry for the hijack Andy. :hi:
Andy is finished trying to clean those boots anyway! :laugh:

And some say *I* take threads off topic! :nunu:
 

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I never mind a good hijacking. :laugh:
Honestly, I thought the skis in the photo were photoshopped on. It was a neat sidebar.

I did get them mostly stripped using acetone. Whatever "Honor Guard Instant Spit Shine" is, it is impervious to almost everything. I should use it to paint the frame on my pickup. MEK ran right off, carb cleaner just made it shinier, and a bunch of paint reducers did absolutely nothing. I had to let the acetone-soaked rag lay on a section for a bit before it would start lifting and then I could scrub it off. Then I loaded up a coat of the Obenauf's oil. I'll wait a few weeks and hit them with some Obenauf's LP to really condition the leather.

Yeah, it seemed like a good idea 20+ years ago. :lol: I don't recall these being as much as jump boots, but they are basically jump boots with straps instead of laces.
 

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Glad I was in Army aviation! We never were into the spit shine stuff. Always had one pristine pair of jump boots that I had done up by the guy at the shoe shine shop in the barber shop. Tanker boots always looked nice. We had simular ones that had zippers in the side. getting dressed was easy.. Underwear, t shirt, zip on the Nomex, zip on the boots.. done. Lazy aviation! LOL!
According to AR670-1, zippers in boots are not authorized. Sorry, sometimes the BS creeps back after all those years.:laugh:

Can't remember who the instructors were. I've slept since then. :lol:


Sorry for the hijack Andy. :hi:
This is great, a thread hijacked by the "Thread Police".:laugh:
 
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