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I've got an 05 JD 317 skidsteer with the auxillary hydraulics which are activated by turning the right-hand lever inward. There is a lockout on the lever and even when it is in the unlock position, the handle still will not move inward? I am trying this without having anything actually hooked-up to the hydro's so maybe that it the problem, but I would think I'd be able to move the lever.

So, please educate me on what I am missing/doing wrong???

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I dug into my issue a little bit more today and tried to free-up the cable on each end by spraying ti with some rust-bust, but no luck. When I move the handle, I can watch the cable move the acutator lever slightly (1/8 inch maybe) but it won't budge past that. I did not remove the cable altogether to see if it was free or not as I figured if it would move a little is should move the rest of the way.

So, if the cable is not the problem it must be something in the linkage down by the pedals....any ideas???
It seems like it is locked-out somehow but no matter what I do it will not move, whether the machine is running or stopped, same result.

Any advice is appreciated.
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I dug into my issue a little bit more today and tried to free-up the cable on each end by spraying ti with some rust-bust, but no luck. When I move the handle, I can watch the cable move the acutator lever slightly (1/8 inch maybe) but it won't budge past that. I did not remove the cable altogether to see if it was free or not as I figured if it would move a little is should move the rest of the way.

So, if the cable is not the problem it must be something in the linkage down by the pedals....any ideas???
It seems like it is locked-out somehow but no matter what I do it will not move, whether the machine is running or stopped, same result.

Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.
Yes, I believe your next place to look will be down by the pedals, its as simple as removing a couple pieces of sheet metal. For even more work room you can lift the cab and get more access to all of your components.
 

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So I removed the panels to get a closer look at the linkage down by the pedals and then disconnected the cable from the linkage just to make sure it was free to move and it was. In looking at what the linkage connects to it all seems to lead to a central point where a piston of sorts does in and out with the activation/deactivation of the cable pull. It looks like to the left and right of this piston the one for the left pedal and right pedal are there.

So my question is, where do I go from here? My pedals are locked anytime the unit is not running or running and the brake is on and it seems like the aux handle would act the same. so am I missing something?
 

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So I removed the panels to get a closer look at the linkage down by the pedals and then disconnected the cable from the linkage just to make sure it was free to move and it was. In looking at what the linkage connects to it all seems to lead to a central point where a piston of sorts does in and out with the activation/deactivation of the cable pull. It looks like to the left and right of this piston the one for the left pedal and right pedal are there.

So my question is, where do I go from here? My pedals are locked anytime the unit is not running or running and the brake is on and it seems like the aux handle would act the same. so am I missing something?
After some research a while back on the internet I learned that the red handle (when sitting in the seat look down to the left) is used to unlock your hydraulics so you can "lower the boom of a dead machine" for transport of the dead machine back to the shop from a job site. In your case it will unlock so you can check and see if all of your linkage will move properly. If anything binds up you will be able to tell what and where and diagnose the problem.
I have attached a picture of the red handle so you have an idea of it's location. :thumbup1gif:
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Hope this helps! :thumbup1gif:
 

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Thanks for the tip, I know exactly where the handle is. If you pull the lever though, does it bleed the hydro lines somehow or is it simply an override of sorts?

So, before I get too far, I should ask about the switch up by the gauges to ask exactly what it does and if it would have any bearing on my issue. The switch I am referring to is located on the far left (when in the seat looking up) and is similar to the brake switch but I am just not sure what function it serves? Do I need to push this and have something connected to the hydroports n order for the lever to move?

I would really hate to be overlooking something simple here so walk me through the process of hooking up and etc..
1) is the machine on or off?
2) brake on or off?
etc., etc.

Thanks for the help.
 

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Thanks for the tip, I know exactly where the handle is. If you pull the lever though, does it bleed the hydro lines somehow or is it simply an override of sorts?

So, before I get too far, I should ask about the switch up by the gauges to ask exactly what it does and if it would have any bearing on my issue. The switch I am referring to is located on the far left (when in the seat looking up) and is similar to the brake switch but I am just not sure what function it serves? Do I need to push this and have something connected to the hydroports n order for the lever to move?

I would really hate to be overlooking something simple here so walk me through the process of hooking up and etc..
1) is the machine on or off?
2) brake on or off?
etc., etc.

Thanks for the help.
When you pull the lever it unlocks the hydraulics allowing flow to occur when the pedals or handles are moved when the machine is off. So yes, it is basically bleeding the hydraulics, just move the foot pedals back and forth with the machine off to relieve any pressure although i have to say when I replaced the hydro line on my 317 on the lift cylinder (boom was up and locked) there was no significant pressure in the line.

The button you are talking about basically will allow you to run the auxiliary hydraulics and leave the seat of your 317 for use of a backhoe, log splitter, etc.

The handle itself can be moved left and right when the machine is off and it us unlocked (small unlock lever is located on the actual joystick). This allows you to depress the pressure in the lines to aid in easy hook up of hydraulic attachments.

The basic run down:
Park the 317 with the attachment of choice locked down and preferably flat on the ground.
Shut down the machine (park brake automatically is applied whether you push the red park button or not)
Turn the unlock deal on your right hand joy stick (you will see a lock and unlock symbol on the joy stock itself)
Move the auxiliary hydraulic handle to and from the operator multiple times to depress any pressure built up in your hydraulic lines.
Exit the cab of your machine, clean the ends of the hydraulic couplings, and plug your auxiliary lines in.
Finally, check to see if your quick couplings are attached properly as well as a quick inspection of hydraulic lines and fittings on the attachment to ensure you wont encounter leaks in operation.
Now you can get back in the machine and operate your auxiliary hydraulic attachment, just make sure you give your 317 some throttle, those auxiliary hydraulic attachments are power hungry.

Hope this helps! :good2:
 

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So I removed the panels to get a closer look at the linkage down by the pedals and then disconnected the cable from the linkage just to make sure it was free to move and it was. In looking at what the linkage connects to it all seems to lead to a central point where a piston of sorts does in and out with the activation/deactivation of the cable pull. It looks like to the left and right of this piston the one for the left pedal and right pedal are there.

So my question is, where do I go from here? My pedals are locked anytime the unit is not running or running and the brake is on and it seems like the aux handle would act the same. so am I missing something?
I fond the actuating cylinder on the valve bank, which links to the handle push rod is seized, which will not allow the link to travel down with the handle.
I have to spray WD40 over the actuating cylinder and make a folk tool shape holder with handle over the square arm. after attach to it.
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and able to force the actuating cylinder to move in and out.
and now, my auxiliary hydraulic controller able to move down and controls mower attachment.
 
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