I just greased my tractor for the first time myself and I just have no concept of how much. I just kept squeezing until it was evidently oozing out from somewhere - but I could not tell if was getting everywhere it should? Should it ooze out consistantly everywhere along a pin? Secondly, I put grease in the two zerks on the front axel - nothing oozed out anywhere - and I just stopped because I was not sure how much and where it was going? Thoughts/Opinions Thank You - Dana
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I'm sure everyone will have good advice here, but here's what I do:
Seems like every fitting/area is a bit different. I add grease until I see (or sometimes hear) it pop out of somewhere. Also seems like you get a "feel" for the process and can tell by how much resistance there is to pumping in the grease. On my FEL and backhoe, two pumps is usually enough to see something move. On U joints that I grease once a year, I want to see some grease come out of each of the 4 "corners" of the joint, then I wipe of the extra.
I use two kinds of grease: JD poly-urea (the green stuff) on most everything, and then JD Moly grease on the backhoe and loader pins, since it is better at high pressure shock stuff like those pins see. I'm sure others will have different opinions. Seems like grease, oil, R1 vs F4, and the value of a quick hitch are debates that will go on forever :laugh:.
We got a new JD 190C mower at the fire station two summers back. The person in charge of maintenance got sacked when I found out that nothing had been done to the tractor :nunu:. An entire season of mowing with no grease added to the mower spindles! It took 12 pumps get some resistance, and 15 to see the 1st sign of grease come out of the bottom of the spindle. I got new blades for it and was going to get the old ones sharpened but someone threw them out :banghead:. But, :focus:.
Also be aware that some fittings that take grease are kinda sealed, so if you pump in too much grease you can pop the seal. Others here have more knowledge on that stuff than I do, we'll probably both learn when they chime in.
So there's my take on what I do.
Pete
Seems like every fitting/area is a bit different. I add grease until I see (or sometimes hear) it pop out of somewhere. Also seems like you get a "feel" for the process and can tell by how much resistance there is to pumping in the grease. On my FEL and backhoe, two pumps is usually enough to see something move. On U joints that I grease once a year, I want to see some grease come out of each of the 4 "corners" of the joint, then I wipe of the extra.
I use two kinds of grease: JD poly-urea (the green stuff) on most everything, and then JD Moly grease on the backhoe and loader pins, since it is better at high pressure shock stuff like those pins see. I'm sure others will have different opinions. Seems like grease, oil, R1 vs F4, and the value of a quick hitch are debates that will go on forever :laugh:.
We got a new JD 190C mower at the fire station two summers back. The person in charge of maintenance got sacked when I found out that nothing had been done to the tractor :nunu:. An entire season of mowing with no grease added to the mower spindles! It took 12 pumps get some resistance, and 15 to see the 1st sign of grease come out of the bottom of the spindle. I got new blades for it and was going to get the old ones sharpened but someone threw them out :banghead:. But, :focus:.
Also be aware that some fittings that take grease are kinda sealed, so if you pump in too much grease you can pop the seal. Others here have more knowledge on that stuff than I do, we'll probably both learn when they chime in.
So there's my take on what I do.
Pete
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Dad always told me, its not the type or brand of grease you use that makes a difference, its the plain ol fact that you USE grease of some sort.
Yes, there are differences in qualities and properties, but probably the single biggest thing with grease is keeping contaminates OUT of the area...be it grit, water or what not.
All the other comments here are spot on. For the record, i use the JD Polyurea on everything....
Heres a handy little "Grease Guide Wheel"...nice little arts & crafts project for you guys :lol:
JD Grease Guide Wheel
Yes, there are differences in qualities and properties, but probably the single biggest thing with grease is keeping contaminates OUT of the area...be it grit, water or what not.
All the other comments here are spot on. For the record, i use the JD Polyurea on everything....
Heres a handy little "Grease Guide Wheel"...nice little arts & crafts project for you guys :lol:
JD Grease Guide Wheel
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What kind of a thread on grease is this :unknown: ? :wink:
Usually you get a fine food fight. I was all set to watch the show :munch:.
But no, we're all using the same grease and techniques. Thanks for the charts, Dave. Now all I got to do is untangle the cords on my monitors from rotating them soo much. Guess I bought into that "paperless world" paradym too much :mocking:.
Oh well, Need more :morning2:.
Pete
Usually you get a fine food fight. I was all set to watch the show :munch:.
But no, we're all using the same grease and techniques. Thanks for the charts, Dave. Now all I got to do is untangle the cords on my monitors from rotating them soo much. Guess I bought into that "paperless world" paradym too much :mocking:.
Oh well, Need more :morning2:.
Pete
Thank You for the advice. I want to check the type of grease I purchased but it was such a PITA to get the grease gun together with the tube of grease in it (the spring mechanism got my fingers good once which resulted in a good bit of foul language) it is going to be what it is until it runs out. It is a JD product recommended by their parts counter so it can't be all bad. I did think about cleaning the zerks - seemed like it made sense but alas next time (sigh).
Had a lot of trouble getting the hose disconnected from the zerk but found that by rotating the hose and pulling a bit, it would come off.
BTW - I have now ruined a lot of clothing...seems I cant keep grease off me whenever I am within five feet of the tractor - my wife is not pleased but she did get me some nice insulated Carhartt overalls for the holidays:good2: Kind of funny on someone who wears a suit to work evey day!
-Dana
Had a lot of trouble getting the hose disconnected from the zerk but found that by rotating the hose and pulling a bit, it would come off.
BTW - I have now ruined a lot of clothing...seems I cant keep grease off me whenever I am within five feet of the tractor - my wife is not pleased but she did get me some nice insulated Carhartt overalls for the holidays:good2: Kind of funny on someone who wears a suit to work evey day!
-Dana
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Dana,
Here is a tip, clothing isn't exactly ruined by grease. I have had very good luck treating the grease or oil directly with hand cleaner prior to placing it in to the washer. Use hot water wash. Works great.:thumbup1gif:
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Dana, what color is the grease? Using this info page from JD: https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/document/english/pmac/8180_fb_GreaseSpecialMultiPurpose.htm, you should be able to determine what it is...If I had to bet, if the parts counter said "this is good all purpose stuff" its probably the Polyurea alot of us use...should be Green in color.
Based on the reddish brown color - I think it is the basic grease (to this point I have resisted opening the grease gun). Not sure how long it will take me to get through a tube but next time will upgrade...it seems silly to skimp on something like this. Interestingly, when they had the tractor for the 200 hour maintenance, it appears they used the "amber" colored grease. If it is the same grease marketed as their "mid grade" stuff on their website, it seems kind of strange that they pointed me in the other direction. This is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy BTW- this will bug me until I get a new tube (LOL). Oh well - I learn.
Next time I get grease on something (which will probably be soon enough) I will pretreat it and wash in warm water - thank you for the tip.
Dana
Next time I get grease on something (which will probably be soon enough) I will pretreat it and wash in warm water - thank you for the tip.
Dana
Sort of along the same lines as my previous question - do you grease areas of the tractor that do not have zerks, like the "balls" (for lack of the official term), that the three point hitch arms rotate up and down on? Seems like that would make sense but no zerk and nothing in the manual about greasing them?
Dana
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Yes, you need to lube the balls...slippery balls are good:laugh::laugh:
Fluid Film works great for things like that, and the linkages for the brake and hydro pedals as well. Since it has no solvents, it really last's a long time.
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3pt Link Balls...
I've never lubed mine with grease. Most I've ever done was to spray some Teflon lube on there or some WD40 to prevent rust. Long story short, I've always been taught that if you want to wear out the balls, grease em. Anything that can collect dirt & grime on them will just hold grit there and be an abrasive.
I've never lubed mine with grease. Most I've ever done was to spray some Teflon lube on there or some WD40 to prevent rust. Long story short, I've always been taught that if you want to wear out the balls, grease em. Anything that can collect dirt & grime on them will just hold grit there and be an abrasive.
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Most JD dealers sell it Dana.
Hi found this thread via search. My first time greasing. I just greased the trunion on a 2020 2032r and have no idea or feel of whether I put enough in. Did about 5-6 pumps with a lube shuttle. It looks like I’m using different grease from factory and heard it’s not great to mix the greases and should make sure the old grease is pushed out. So I’m paranoid I haven’t put enough in, but also didn’t know what might happen if I over pump.
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i wouldnt get to paranoid to begin with most off the shelf greases are fairly compatable with each other and if your greaseing reqularly it will not take long for any old grease to be pushed out......for joints like loader pins you really cant over grease other than you will just make a mess ......bearings are probably the most sensitive to grease types and over greasing as you can push out seals or covers etc ...on those you need to pick a good grease rated for bearings and stick to it ....as far as how much i usually just grease pin type joints till it makes a sound or i see grease........bearings i limit myself to 2-3 pumps at a time
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