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Any of you following Goodworks channel on Youtube might have seen his 4720 unicorn video earlier this week.
Where he is showing off 1 of 2 4720's that he got in, that both had a mid PTO with belly mowers on them.

I am sure most of you might have know that as of the past several years, there never was the mid pto feature for the 4 series it had been limited to the 3R and not available on 4R machines.
Turns out JD used to offer an optional mid PTO on the 4 Series in the prior generation.
I never knew such a machine existed till this week that is.
Which is why he titled his video "Found a unicorn". He hadn't ever seen one either.

I had actually wished JD had made a 4r with mid pto and belly mower, I would not have had much reason for keeping my 3039R around.

Well long story short, the one seen in the video was already sold, he mentioned a 2nd one on the way, I bought the other one last night.

With this discovery hopefully it will allow me some more flexibility to make a couple other tractor changes down the road.
Giving me the option to still have 2, 4 series machine being this new to me 4720 and my 4066R will solve that,
I think this will allow me the flexibility to down grade my other current 4044R possibly back down to a much smaller more compact machine like a 1025R, which that could turn out to where I can also get a belly mower for the 1025R and cut one of the X7s loose as well.
Possibly maybe someday down the road bit further, I might trade my current 4066R on up to my dream tractor which is decked out 5R with a suspension cab and front end, not sure on the 5R plan, but the downsizing the 4044R to a 1025R will likely happen sooner then later.

I traded in my 3039R for the 4720.

The whole 5R dream machine idea aside, since that may never happen, I believe in the end I will have reduced my overal equipment investment dollars significantly and improved my overall capability in my machines by adding this new mid pto 4 series discovery .



Here is a few pics of the one I purchased.
Cant wait to see it in person.

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For some reason I don't think that is a drive over deck.... :ROFLMAO:

Congrats. I had watched that video as well. I just don't have a need for something that big.
 

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Well if you really want to get technical...ALL decks are drive over 😁
One time at least. After that they make a good paper weight. Or ballast I guess..
 

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You know, I have the drive over 72D deck on my 3039R right now, that I am trading for this 4720, and for the life of me I never can get that thing on and off like they show in the videos.
I am not to sure, that I wont be happier with this style deck that you have to drag out from under it.
I do have several machines that I can throw a tow strap on and drag that 7 iron out from under there whenever needed. I also hope that with these larger 4 series tires and this different style mounting system, that this thing will have more ground clearance when the deck is up, to better clear obstacles, then the 3R can.
I do think there is going to be some up side to having this be it more dated mower deck design.
 

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Congratulations should make you an awesome tractor.
 
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That's a nice machine.
 
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Congratulations on that purchase. Looks like a great and fun machine.
 
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i am in the market for a 4720 and watched that video a few days ago ......i need a 540e model and not a mid pto so i didnt contact him...

congrats on the purchase

in my opinion the mid pto does add a lot of versitility but 60hp 4 series on a belly mower does seem to be a costly overkill thus the unicorn aspect

i thought the scv setup in the original machine was well done and intresting and probably a very reasonably priced way to get multiple scvs out the back
 

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i am in the market for a 4720 and watched that video a few days ago ......i need a 540e model and not a mid pto so i didnt contact him...

congrats on the purchase

in my opinion the mid pto does add a lot of versitility but 60hp 4 series on a belly mower does seem to be a costly overkill thus the unicorn aspect

i thought the scv setup in the original machine was well done and intresting and probably a very reasonably priced way to get multiple scvs out the back
Yea, I liked that rear service setup as well on that one in the video.
I think that one in general had a few more options then mine.

I only have a 3rd svc which its located on the rear and operated by the thumb button.
Not sure why they did it that way.

My 4066R has a 3rd service in the joystick button but it connects out on the loader where I would think it should be, since its control is on the loader joystick. lol .
I have separate 4th and 5th rear services on my 4066 and quite often that still isn't enough. lol
Every time I pull my bat wing mower I have to disconnect my power top link.

I will likely need to add a few things to this 4720 to best suit my needs overall. 4th and 5th rear service will be on the list and remote locating that joystick service to the front if available. Also a mulch kit will likely go on that deck, also if still available. That is a concern of mine that with this older generation tractor, how many accessory upgrade kits are likely still available for it.

However I am happy that mine is a little newer being a 2012 vs the 2008 seen in the video and mine also is coming with brand new tires and I think maybe just a little bit cleaning unit overall. Not seen it in person yet so wont know that for sure till it gets here.
 
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Yea, I liked that rear service setup as well on that one in the video.
I think that one in general had a few more options then mine.

I only have a 3rd svc which its located on the rear and operated by the thumb button.
Not sure why they did it that way.

My 4066R has a 3rd service in the joystick button but it connects out on the loader where I would think it should be, since its control is on the loader joystick. lol .
I have separate 4th and 5th rear services on my 4066 and quite often that still isn't enough. lol
Every time I pull my bat wing mower I have to disconnect my power top link.

I will likely need to add a few things to this 4720 to best suit my needs overall. 4th and 5th rear service will be on the list and remote locating that joystick service to the front if available. Also a mulch kit will likely go on that deck, also if still available. That is a concern of mine that with this older generation tractor, how many accessory upgrade kits are likely still available for it.

However I am happy that mine is a little newer being a 2012 vs the 2008 seen in the video and mine also is coming with brand new tires and I think maybe just a little bit cleaning unit overall. Not seen it in person yet so wont know that for sure till it gets here.
i hope you let us know how it compares to the 4066 .....i am like you i want/need/expect a 3rd to be on the front .....never can have to many scvs LOL (y) 🚜
 

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i hope you let us know how it compares to the 4066 .....i am like you i want/need/expect a 3rd to be on the front .....never can have to many scvs LOL (y) 🚜
I watched a lot of videos last night to try and get a better feel for what I bought and or what to expect.
There are some interesting differences, I am sure were likely tier 4 emmisions related. Like the 4720 having a pre-emisision 2.4L 4cyl John Deere turbo diesel engine and the 4066 having a 2.1L 4cyl tier 4 Yanmar turbo diesel engine.
Both are rated at 66 hp.

Here is one good video that does some side by side comparisons of the 2.

They are really very similar machines but the differences are a bit more then the color that the frames are painted.
 

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I'm super happy with my 4720, I suppose a belly mower would be okay for a large turf grass field but not so good in a pasture.
 
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Yea I watch him all the time and his inventory. I was Wondering if they were gone. Congrats looks like a great purchase.
 
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I'm super happy with my 4720, I suppose a belly mower would be okay for a large turf grass field but not so good in a pasture.
My weekly mowing ritual has been much improved this year.
Where last year it was a task that would span over multiple days or several evenings.

Now I knock out about 80% of it with the 4066R and the 17 foot bat wing in about an hour.

Then I generally do as much trimming with the 3039R as I possibly can since the 3039R has AC . lol
typically 1-2 hours.

Then follow up with about 1 hr sometimes more on the X758 getting into all the super tight places and trimming everything I can't get to with the 3039R.

So depending on how much I need or want to do each week, I now spend about 2-3 hours most weeks on mowing, where last year It seemed like I was on mower everyday at some point or all weekend long.

Much much better now. I just didn't really want all 3 of the larger machines, this new found unicorn will let me drop down to 2 larger machines and maybe add back a 1025R, that would also take out one of the X7s in addition to being able to fit in tight areas for minor loader/dirt work it could mow or possibly bag with the bagger system Tim has on Johnny 1, which I have looked at buying a few times over the past few years. Might actually get one now.

Running across this unusually optioned 4720 has opened up several possibilities.
 

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Any of you following Goodworks channel on Youtube might have seen his 4720 unicorn video earlier this week.
Where he is showing off 1 of 2 4720's that he got in, that both had a mid PTO with belly mowers on them.

I am sure most of you might have know that as of the past several years, there never was the mid pto feature for the 4 series it had been limited to the 3R and not available on 4R machines.
Turns out JD used to offer an optional mid PTO on the 4 Series in the prior generation.
I never knew such a machine existed till this week that is.
Which is why he titled his video "Found a unicorn". He hadn't ever seen one either.

I had actually wished JD had made a 4r with mid pto and belly mower, I would not have had much reason for keeping my 3039R around.

Well long story short, the one seen in the video was already sold, he mentioned a 2nd one on the way, I bought the other one last night.

With this discovery hopefully it will allow me some more flexibility to make a couple other tractor changes down the road.
Giving me the option to still have 2, 4 series machine being this new to me 4720 and my 4066R will solve that,
I think this will allow me the flexibility to down grade my other current 4044R possibly back down to a much smaller more compact machine like a 1025R, which that could turn out to where I can also get a belly mower for the 1025R and cut one of the X7s loose as well.
Possibly maybe someday down the road bit further, I might trade my current 4066R on up to my dream tractor which is decked out 5R with a suspension cab and front end, not sure on the 5R plan, but the downsizing the 4044R to a 1025R will likely happen sooner then later.

I traded in my 3039R for the 4720.

The whole 5R dream machine idea aside, since that may never happen, I believe in the end I will have reduced my overal equipment investment dollars significantly and improved my overall capability in my machines by adding this new mid pto 4 series discovery .



Here is a few pics of the one I purchased.
Cant wait to see it in person.

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Great pick up!! What year is it? I have the same set up with ALL the options. Best money I ever spent. Why I'm asking is if yours is built in 2011 - 2013 there are large changes in not just power but hydraulics. While the first on GW sold in the best you could do. The hydraulic options on the newer 4720's are much, much better.I have a total of 7 SCV's on mine that are all usable, before splitting anything.

One word of caution about the mower set up. First it is not a drive over deck, and two you have to crawl under the tractor to manually connect the PTO shaft, and it is a bugger of a place to get at. We just bit the bullet, and crawl under the axle from behind to hook up the PTO shaft. Unless you're a young Gumby!

Mower deck height is an issue. I made the same mistake the previous owner of yours,and the first one GW tractors sold.They have R4's on them. Even if the Dealer ordered the tractor with the smaller 16.9 R4's instead of the bigger tires they normally come with, the back of the deck WILL rub hard on the tires just to get the deck 2 1/2 inches off the ground. Making ground clearance a big issue.
But there is a fix. A complete set of turf tires. The only way to get the deck up to an acceptable height for transport. Had my dealer told me about the clearance issue, instead of just telling me "you don't want a belly mower on it" and just look at me when I said yeah I do, I would have got turfs, and added a set of AG tires for loader work. Live and learn. I got lucky and another local dealer bought a set of turfs from the Deere auction for dealers only (a totally different, long conversation) to have in stock. Turfs allow you to get 6 or more inches of clearance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking your tractor, I have one.

Most of the dealers didn't even know there was a mid-pto for these. It is a field install option, gotten thru "whole goods" at the time. Things were changing at the time,and it was crazy.The dealer I got mine from tried to tell me you couldn't get a mid-pto on the 4x20 series. When he found out he was wrong and I was right he yielded. Said it wasn't worth it just to run a MMM, as there is no front blower option. Only a loader mounted one, power by a rear PTO driven hydraulic power pack for about 10-12G. I said I know, I want that too, that will be one of the main purposes for the tractor.

Good Works Tractor call these a Unicorn, I call it my Deeracorn. These two make a total of 6 that I have seen, including mine, since 2013. I got lucky, held out, and got one of the very last ones to role off the line, even got it WITHOUT the RIO.

You are just going to love your tractor. It is real, real heavy, too heavy for most people's lawns, and really uses a good amount of fuel to just run a 72" deck. I don't use mine much at all now, but if you had no other choice, it can be used as a brush cutter. It is built that heavy.

Please post plenty of pics when you can! These just look badass with a mower on them. I think I watched that video three times, just to remember how cool mine looked. Any questions just ask,and again, best of luck with your multi purpose ANIMAL!

Allen.
 

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How much......maybe I missed it?
Is it for sale?
Which one plus ca$h L or R....?
 

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Yea, I liked that rear service setup as well on that one in the video.
I think that one in general had a few more options then mine.

I only have a 3rd svc which its located on the rear and operated by the thumb button.
Not sure why they did it that way.

My 4066R has a 3rd service in the joystick button but it connects out on the loader where I would think it should be, since its control is on the loader joystick. lol .
I have separate 4th and 5th rear services on my 4066 and quite often that still isn't enough. lol
Every time I pull my bat wing mower I have to disconnect my power top link.

I will likely need to add a few things to this 4720 to best suit my needs overall. 4th and 5th rear service will be on the list and remote locating that joystick service to the front if available. Also a mulch kit will likely go on that deck, also if still available. That is a concern of mine that with this older generation tractor, how many accessory upgrade kits are likely still available for it.

However I am happy that mine is a little newer being a 2012 vs the 2008 seen in the video and mine also is coming with brand new tires and I think maybe just a little bit cleaning unit overall. Not seen it in person yet so wont know that for sure till it gets here.

It's great that it's a 2012, everything is still available for it. Deere has a bracket the accepts 3 SCV's that takes the place of the original loader SCV bracket. Just run hoses from 3rd SCV in back to loader bracket. There are no hard line kits. Bite the bullet and get, at least the diverted 4th & 5th SCV(push button, run with joystick), and the independent 4th & 5th( run by a switch for each, and can be used at any time as they are always live). I would even add the power beyond now, because if you go to add any one of these later there are special pipes that will be needed, and existing ones removed and discarded adding extra expense.
 

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How much......maybe I missed it?
Is it for sale?
Which one plus ca$h L or R....?
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Not sure L or R ?
as the title of the thread mentions , I just bought it.
I don’t plan to sell it any time soon.
not real sure what your asking.
 
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