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Updated to latest browser. So far everything is normal. Keeping my fingers crossed though.
 

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I didn't know there was an update. I sure hope they have shared (e.g. cloud favorites) as an option that can be shared across multiple computers.
 

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My work PC updated automatically so I am now on IE11 as well. Everything I do for work still must be run in comparability mode but at least this time everything seems to still work, unlike IE10.
 

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Well I found that IE11 and GTT didn't play nice with each other, so I went back to IE10. I had problems with pictures displaying and typing text would drop letters. I ran it in compatibility mode too without luck.

GTT's sister site Workshop Addict worked just fine with IE11.

In IE10, Microsquish made it easy to add a website to compatibility mode by clicking the broken page icon in the address bar. Not so in IE11, you have to go to the Tools pull-down menu and do a few other steps.
 

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As an IT security professional I can only recommend an alternate browser.

Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome and ensure it stays updated. IE of any version is simply too full of vulnerabilities. Many of them which are 'zero day' exploits that currently have no fix and honestly might never be fixed.

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I hear you CyberShanks; but Firefart has problems with importing all my bookmarks, and Chrome is downright primitive in it's handling of bookmarks with its cascading menu nonsense.
 

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As an IT security professional I can only recommend an alternate browser.

Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome and ensure it stays updated. IE of any version is simply too full of vulnerabilities. Many of them which are 'zero day' exploits that currently have no fix and honestly might never be fixed.

Jim

Amen on the Firefox, but I am afraid I am not a fan of Google Chrome, although I really like my HTC Android phone and am on my second one. I just do not like the user environment of Chrome.

Although retired, I still do a lot of computer work and always recommend Firefox with certain add-ons that are very valuable.

1. and most important, WOT or Web of Trust. This identifies a bad web site and pops up a danger screen when accessing such a site.

2. Adblockplus. This one stops pop up ads.

3. BetterPrivacy. This one deletes the LSO cookies from Adobe Reader each time you close Firefox. These are known to be a hacker problem.

4. Hide Tab Bar with One Tab. This one is great for those of you who do not use or like tabs. Firefox no longer allows the tab bar to be turned off without the use of such an add-on.

5. NoScript. This one is not for everyone. I use it but it can be somewhat of a pain to use. It prevents all but the most basic display of a web page, until you specifically allow additional components to be displayed. If you use this one, you will be amazed at how many different elements are trying to be utilized on each page, many of them tracking elements. After using it for a while on your most accessed web sites, you can permanently allow those elements you trust, thereby allowing you to access those pages without further intervention. The good sites do not throw a bunch of these elements at you when accessing their web site. For example, deere.com does not do this.

Here are a couple of examples. GTT is fairly clean, but look at nbcnews.com to see how many elements or components are trying to load in addition to the base site. Some of these are necessary to properly display the web page and you can chose which ones to allow. The main point here is that you can prevent malicious code from running when you access a bad web page.

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This is from the GTT web site.

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This is from the nbc news web site. Note how many elements are trying to load.
 

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The Internet is a scary place these days. I'm with you on Chrome. I don't care for the interface of it either. I use Firefox on PC and Mac and the default Safari on the IOS devices.

I just see so many vulnerabilities with Internet Exploder that I routinely recommend my clients not use it unless a particular site requires it.

If you do insist with staying in IE you should at least practice a least privilege strategy. Have two accounts on your computer, one that you use daily that has no Administrative rights, and then one you can use when needed that has the higher rights.

If malware gets ahold of your browser and you have admin rights, it's usually game over for your machine.

While I can't tell you what I currently do, I can say that I'm not retired, I have been in the IT field for around 25 years covering Federal, State, Healthcare, and Financial industries.

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GTT's sister site Workshop Addict worked just fine with IE11.
When we installed the "Fluid Green" design on the forum, I had to make quite a few css additions and html adjustments to get the header design and other elements to work. That is probably why IE 11 has some problems in rendering correctly.
Workshop addict's design works straight off the shelf 'cos all we did was add a graphic header.
 

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It seems I did leave out one add-on for Firefox that I recommend for clients. Although it seems I use it less and less these days, it can still be important to add IE Tab V2 (Enhanced IE Tab) 4.12.22.2 by ietab.net in your add-ons. This add-on places an icon in the lower right corner of your screen, provided the add-on bar is selected in the VIEW menu. By clicking this icon, it changes the rendering engine to IE, while within Firefox, thereby allowing a quick change to IE if you encounter a web page that you feel does not display correctly in Firefox. However, you have just defeated all the security you have set up for Firefox. As I said previously, I rarely have to use this anymore. I question why anyone feels they have to design a web page that will only work in IE, unless they have malicious intent, which makes me stay away from them.

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Intranet (internal) and core business application sites are usually what I run into that require IE..

People that think they are sticking together what they call an enterprise solution, and then use .Net with ASP simply baffle me.

Microsoft develops the most proprietary solutions out there these days.

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Intranet (internal) and core business application sites are usually what I run into that require IE..

People that think they are sticking together what they call an enterprise solution, and then use .Net with ASP simply baffle me.

Microsoft develops the most proprietary solutions out there these days.

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I'm beginning to agree with this statement. My FIL got a new computer with W8 on it. EVERYTHING on it revolves around getting/giving Microsoft an account. Really? What happened to the computer? It's a huge pain to find anything on it. Can't even get a video to play from the video tile without it crashing. I'm not impressed to say the least. I love technology but don't like where I'm seeing computers going.
 

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My mother wanted a tablet and decided on a surface running windows 8 RT. After 4 hours of it trying to install 38 updates it went back on the box and off to BestBuy. She settled on a Nexus, where she could use any android app that is on the market. Windows RT locks you into the Windows only App Store.

You all remember windows CeMeNT, right?

 

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That's a great video.

I've had good luck with all versions of NT from 3.51 onward; but skipped Vista because it's such a clusterfrak. I've also stayed away from Windows 8 due to the major rework of the GUI.

I think McAfee has outdone Microsquish when it comes to writing bloatware.

All software companies write proprietary code; some more so than others. There are pros and cons to proprietary versus open-source; but I don't feel like debating that right now.

At least with PC's, I have a variety of brands to choose from, or in my case I now build my own. Not so with Apple, I can only buy what Apple thinks I need; to my knowledge I can't build my own Apple compatible computer, and I get to pay a higher price for anything with the Apple brand on it. The IT guys I used to work with hated Apple's pre OS X operating systems as they were network resource hogs. The best thing Apple did with OS X and later is put a pretty face on UNIX/LINUX that apparently works.

That's why when I got my first smartphone I went Android as I have numerous brands to choose from, and in case Brand X pisses me off, I can go with Brand Y or Z or whatever next time. Since Microsquish was late to the smartphone party, I didn't even consider Windows phones.
 

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The Internet is a scary place these days. I'm with you on Chrome. I don't care for the interface of it either. I use Firefox on PC and Mac and the default Safari on the IOS devices.

I just see so many vulnerabilities with Internet Exploder that I routinely recommend my clients not use it unless a particular site requires it.

If you do insist with staying in IE you should at least practice a least privilege strategy. Have two accounts on your computer, one that you use daily that has no Administrative rights, and then one you can use when needed that has the higher rights.

If malware gets ahold of your browser and you have admin rights, it's usually game over for your machine.

While I can't tell you what I currently do, I can say that I'm not retired, I have been in the IT field for around 25 years covering Federal, State, Healthcare, and Financial industries.

Jim
This is not restricted to only those that use IE. If you use WINDOWS you should practice this. Even with the "User Account Control" garbage, your machine can still get smacked hard. My wife's laptop ended up with a root kit on it, and she doesn't have admin privs!

You need a QUALITY anti-virus and anti-malware product (and, no, I'm not talking about the stuff that MS ships with Windows either - their products are full of security holes - why would you trust them to be able to close those holes with a second program when they couldn't close them in the original program?)
 

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I'm beginning to agree with this statement. My FIL got a new computer with W8 on it. EVERYTHING on it revolves around getting/giving Microsoft an account. Really? What happened to the computer? It's a huge pain to find anything on it. Can't even get a video to play from the video tile without it crashing. I'm not impressed to say the least. I love technology but don't like where I'm seeing computers going.

I am writing this on a Win8 machine, but you would think it was a Win7 pc if you were to use it. When you start up a new Win8 pc the first time, DO NOT create a MS account, then click the desktop tile to switch to the old style desktop. Then go to Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements and download classic shell and install it. From that point on, your pc will look like and operate like the older versions of Windows.

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I am writing this on a Win8 machine, but you would think it was a Win7 pc if you were to use it. When you start up a new Win8 pc the first time, DO NOT create a MS account, then click the desktop tile to switch to the old style desktop. Then go to Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements and download classic shell and install it. From that point on, your pc will look like and operate like the older versions of Windows.

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Every time that MS tells you to sign in to your MS account, click on "New Account" and then choose to use a Local Account.
 

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Every time that MS tells you to sign in to your MS account, click on "New Account" and then choose to use a Local Account.

That is correct. Sorry if I left that out. If you do not use the MS account, your other option is to use a local account and from that point on, it is like the old Windows. For those already using the MS account, you can sign out of it and then create the local account, but I do not remember the exact steps.

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Or just buy a Mac and be done with it. ;)

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