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For me the real "limited" part of my limited hitch is the lift height, which larger tires would help with (a lot). A couple more inches would make a pretty big difference there...
 

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I saw the new 2025R today. Video coming out very soon (uploading now...will take awhile from the hotel).

I will also post a link to our website showing all the differences and similarities I could see (and the Deere PMs could point out) between the 1025R/2025R/203xR

Sorry for the delay. It has been a LONG day, and we go back again tomorrow.

I will say that it is much more like the 1025R than the 2032R. The frame is longer than the 1025R, but shorter than the 2038R. Seating position much higher than the 1025R.
Overall, I think it is a nice 'tweener'. More details when I get the video (and web page) uploaded.

Any specific things you want me to look for tomorrow when I re-visit?

Tim
 

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I saw the new 2025R today. Video coming out very soon (uploading now...will take awhile from the hotel).

I will also post a link to our website showing all the differences and similarities I could see (and the Deere PMs could point out) between the 1025R/2025R/203xR

Sorry for the delay. It has been a LONG day, and we go back again tomorrow.

I will say that it is much more like the 1025R than the 2032R. The frame is longer than the 1025R, but shorter than the 2038R. Seating position much higher than the 1025R.
Overall, I think it is a nice 'tweener'. More details when I get the video (and web page) uploaded.

Any specific things you want me to look for tomorrow when I re-visit?

Tim
Tim,

I'd be interested in knowing if it has a heavy-duty, full-length, steel frame as it's predecessor the 2320 / previous 2025R has.

Enjoy the show!

Frank
 
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I saw the new 2025R today. Video coming out very soon (uploading now...will take awhile from the hotel).

I will also post a link to our website showing all the differences and similarities I could see (and the Deere PMs could point out) between the 1025R/2025R/203xR

Sorry for the delay. It has been a LONG day, and we go back again tomorrow.

I will say that it is much more like the 1025R than the 2032R. The frame is longer than the 1025R, but shorter than the 2038R. Seating position much higher than the 1025R.
Overall, I think it is a nice 'tweener'. More details when I get the video (and web page) uploaded.

Any specific things you want me to look for tomorrow when I re-visit?

Tim
I would be very interested in any list of differences and upgrades the new 2025R offers over the 1025R. How are they marketing this? What capabilities will it have over the 1025R?
 
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Price difference between this and the 1025R?

Bigger tyres could be a double edged sword, on hilly ground with what essentially is a 1 series with big tyres. Power will def be down IMHO.
I would think the axle ratio would be lower gears to acccomodate the bigger tires. The resulting power/torque should not be less that the 1 series if JD does it's design work. Not saying this is the case just what should transpire.
 

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Thanks Tim - I started following things over on the other thread in the MidSize Compact section. Your video was great and also, I appreciated the breakdown of differences on your website - very nice!!! Thanks!!!
 
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Maybe it will be different once I actually see it, but I don't understand this tractor. The increases in capability would be unnoticeable in practical terms, and it seems like the higher COG would make it even more unstable on slopes than the 1 series. The only thing you actually gain that you would notice would be a teeny tiny bit more traction and a wee bit more lift height. And you lose some significant maneuverability, which I believe is what draws most people to subcompact tractors in the first place.

The kid in me says "Ooh bigger tires looks cool must buy" though, so there is that. :)
 
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Maybe it will be different once I actually see it, but I don't understand this tractor. The increases in capability would be unnoticeable in practical terms, and it seems like the higher COG would make it even more unstable on slopes than the 1 series. The only thing you actually gain that you would notice would be a teeny tiny bit more traction and a wee bit more lift height. And you lose some significant maneuverability, which I believe is what draws most people to subcompact tractors in the first place.

The kid in me says "Ooh bigger tires looks cool must buy" though, so there is that. :)
It's not that much different than the automobile market. When you look at a certain car/SUV/pickup there is usually an option for bigger wheels/tires. Does this car need bigger wheels to operate? Heck no - but a lot of people buy them that way.

Deere has found a market in the suburbanite/small acerage owner and ran with it with huge success. One of the main reasons is because of these options. They are putting more automobile type options on these tractors that this market expects - things like cup holders, tilt steering wheels, cruise control, 12v power access, etc.

Deere has hit it out of the park in this segment so a slightly modified 1-series in the 2025R doesn't surprise me - those bigger wheels will sell tractors.
 

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I'll be curious to see the price difference.

I will say that in all my reading on the forum, there have been quite a few references to people not liking the small size tires. I can certainly see an advantage of having ground clearance, too. Everyone's tasks are different. For me, there are quite a few areas with rougher terrain in and around my wooded sections that I'd love to clear away briars and brush. That ground clearance would be nice.
 

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I'll be curious to see the price difference.

I will say that in all my reading on the forum, there have been quite a few references to people not liking the small size tires. I can certainly see an advantage of having ground clearance, too. Everyone's tasks are different. For me, there are quite a few areas with rougher terrain in and around my wooded sections that I'd love to clear away briars and brush. That ground clearance would be nice.
I don't like the small tires from an aesthetic point of view. But, I do like them from a functional point of view. Small rear tires mean a short wheelbase and small front tires, both of which translate into maneuverability. I know others see it differently, but the way I look at it, I own a 1 series because I can't afford to own two machines, one to mow and one for everything else. If I could, I'd have an X758 or X739 and a 2032r (or bigger). This new one...I don't think I could have it as my only machine. The turning radius is bigger by over a foot, which may not sound like much, but is actually pretty huge. Not in an open parking lot where you can hardly tell the difference, but along narrow trails and tight spaces where the 1 series can barely squeeze in as it is. I always want a smaller tractor when I mow.

So if I can't have this as my only machine, then the only reason to get it over the bigger tractors is price, which is as valid a reason as any I suppose, but doesn't really excite me. The 2032r excites me, but I can't afford it and something else to mow with.

Again, maybe it will be different once I actually see it. And, of course, to each his own. If I had open land without tight trails and lost of obstacles, I'd probably choose this 2025r over a 1025r.
 
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I'll be curious to see the price difference.

I will say that in all my reading on the forum, there have been quite a few references to people not liking the small size tires. I can certainly see an advantage of having ground clearance, too. Everyone's tasks are different. For me, there are quite a few areas with rougher terrain in and around my wooded sections that I'd love to clear away briars and brush. That ground clearance would be nice.
That was my main reason for upgrading from my 2210 (1-series predecessor) to my 2520. Most of my tractor work is in the woods. That and to have an engine that idles at a reasonable RPM.......
 

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I don't like the small tires from an aesthetic point of view. But, I do like them from a functional point of view. Small rear tires mean a short wheelbase and small front tires, both of which translate into maneuverability. I know others see it differently, but the way I look at it, I own a 1 series because I can't afford to own two machines, one to mow and one for everything else. If I could, I'd have an X758 or X739 and a 2032r (or bigger). This new one...I don't think I could have it as my only machine. The turning radius is bigger by over a foot, which may not sound like much, but is actually pretty huge. Not in an open parking lot where you can hardly tell the difference, but along narrow trails and tight spaces where the 1 series can barely squeeze in as it is. I always want a smaller tractor when I mow.

So if I can't have this as my only machine, then the only reason to get it over the bigger tractors is price, which is as valid a reason as any I suppose, but doesn't really excite me. The 2032r excites me, but I can't afford it and something else to mow with.

Again, maybe it will be different once I actually see it. And, of course, to each his own. If I had open land without tight trails and lost of obstacles, I'd probably choose this 2025r over a 1025r.
The maneuverability is a great point. I'm sort of in the same spot. I don't want two machines. I could justify (almost) buying a ZTR and then buy an older SCUT for the chores. In that situation, I wouldn't mind the slightly larger SCUT like the new 2025R. But the every-5-days-mowing? I think I would tire of the larger tractor. I really do want snowblower duties on the SCUT as well. Making the jump to the new 2032R is a whole new world of attachments and cost. Wish I could justify it, though!!!

My 3 acres are only about 0.9 mowing...and its around some trees, upper level near the house is sort of tight and a retaining wall to mow up to...I keep thinking the 1025R would be the biggest machine I'd want to be horsing around with in that section. I'll be holding off until Spring (that was my original plan since I blew the money wad on the pole barn this year)...so I'll give them a good side-by-side comparison at that point.
 
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I would expect the 2025R to ride a lot better than the 1025R due to the larger tires, and the 15% longer wheelbase.
That's true...I was thinking more of the maneuvering I would be doing around certain areas that I mow...the larger tractor could start to feel cumbersome. I have a solid 1.5 hours of mowing if I do everything...sometimes I split it into two nights. The ZTR entered my head thinking that I could chop that down to a solid hour...not sure.
 

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I don't like the small tires from an aesthetic point of view. But, I do like them from a functional point of view. Small rear tires mean a short wheelbase and small front tires, both of which translate into maneuverability.
Do you live in the snow belt? Do you plan to use tire chains? I can tell you that chains for the smaller 1-series tires weigh a whole lot less, are easier to put on and don't get caught up in the lugs as much.

Every time I have to wrestle my 80+ lb. 2-series chains on and off I find myself wishing for smaller tires. :)
 
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