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Any Civil Engineers here or carpenters with an understanding of lumber spans and the weight it can bear? I'm attaching some pics of a bridge across the creek on my property. It is solid and well built - the previous owner was a Civil engineer. I'm concerned if it will safely hold the weight of the tractor and attachments. The span is 12' supported with 4x4 posts with a 2x8 bolted through the 4x4 posts. the two center spans are 2x10. The two outer spans are 2x8. Everything is bolted together - no nails. I estimate the age of the bridge at 10-15 years.

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Do you think that creek bed would support a few cinderblocks +/- some 3/4" treated plywood, or a sidewalk block, for surface area that you could put 2 or 3 treated 6x6 or even 8x8 on to act as pillars?? You'd have to get wet and muddy, once, but I'd feel a lot safer with that. 2x10's are strong, but i dunno if I'd be piloting a couple to a few thousand pounds across only 2 of them spanned across 12'.....

The floor joists in your house are what, 2x8's, on 24" centers? What's the biggest span you can have without a wall or telepost below, or a big glue-lam beam, or a metal I-beam? That's enough for you to walk on and keep your fridge full of beer, but I wouldn't run my tractor across that floor.

I'm not an engineer, take my thoughts for what they're worth.

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I am no Engineer but that seems like a long span. Let me put this out there I would add two more 2X10's one to each of the one's that are all ready there and bolt them together. I would also add 2X8's to the 4X4 posts and bolt them together. You may want to add 1 more 4X4 post to each side so there would be one in the middle of the 2X8's. Just putting it out there.

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I'm not an engineer.

That bridge looks a bit light to me. Looks to me to be meant for pedestrian or maybe ATV use.

If I was to build a bridge like that I would use 2x12's double or tripled up. Or better yet 8 or 10" steel beams. But, that's just me. I tend to over build things.
 

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Yeah - that span bothers me too. A lawn tractor goes across it no problem - thats how we mow the other side. sure would be great to drive the tractor over there and clean out the underbrush some. I'm thinking maybe a bug culvert pipe and backfill at a narrow spot back upstream.
 

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I'm going to contradict everyone...

The bridge is fine on the right half (from your picture below)... but the left half it's scary!

Looks like someone widened it, and didn't run stringers the same way to the left side. If you were to continue the stringers across, and use the same size joist on the far left, then it might be doable. the Hangers you buy would make it easy to add them.

That would make is JUST passable to carry about 2000ish lbs. If you are going to drive the tractor across fully loaded, and start to push over 3000ish... I'd say double up the center joist, AND repair the left half.

Certainly getting down into the muck and supporting the middle would ALSO help dramatically increase the load handling.
 

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I don't know but keep in mind the rails on the sides are actually trusses and add a lot of strength. It might hold, why not set up a video camera in full side view, go for it, if you make it across then :yahoo:. If you don't make it across you can share a real cool video with all of us about what not to do, :lol:.
 

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The bridge is fine on the right half (from your picture below)... but the left half it's scary!

Looks like someone widened it, and didn't run stringers the same way to the left side. If you were to continue the stringers across, and use the same size joist on the far left, then it might be doable. the Hangers you buy would make it easy to add them.
I believe it is the angle of the picture throwing you off. I think there are 2 2x10's designed to carry the main live load near the middle. They set on top of the 2x8 pier bent on both ends which are bolted to 4x4 support piers. Then both the left and right side are the same with a 2x8 spanning the length which adds support for the dead load of the rails.

It is a very well designed bridge for lighter loads. Just my thoughts, but I would think you would be flirting over capacity limits running your 1025 across this. As a permanent bridge I would not rely on it for your tractor without major structural modifications.
 
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I don't know but keep in mind the rails on the sides are actually trusses and add a lot of strength. It might hold, why not set up a video camera in full side view, go for it, if you make it across then :yahoo:. If you don't make it across you can share a real cool video with all of us about what not to do, :lol:.
You sound a lot like the guy on the ground yelling "JUMP, JUMP, JUMP!" to the one up on the ledge. :lol:
 
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The bridge is fine on the right half (from your picture below)... but the left half it's scary!

Looks like someone widened it, and didn't run stringers the same way to the left side. If you were to continue the stringers across, and use the same size joist on the far left, then it might be doable. the Hangers you buy would make it easy to add them.

That would make is JUST passable to carry about 2000ish lbs. If you are going to drive the tractor across fully loaded, and start to push over 3000ish... I'd say double up the center joist, AND repair the left half.

Certainly getting down into the muck and supporting the middle would ALSO help dramatically increase the load handling.
You're only seeing 2/3 of the structure. It was built like that - the center is supported by the 2x10's and the outer are 2x8, same on both sides.
 

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I don't know but keep in mind the rails on the sides are actually trusses and add a lot of strength. It might hold, why not set up a video camera in full side view, go for it, if you make it across then :yahoo:. If you don't make it across you can share a real cool video with all of us about what not to do, :lol:.

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I wouldn't on dare with your tractor. 2x8 max span is 12', 2x10 is 14'. I doubt your 4x4's are on footings and there should be supports under the cross pieces attached to the 4x4's. If it were me I would want all 2x10's doubled up with some solid blocking and known support on each side. Then again it would make a good video of you trying to get your tractor out of the creek.
 

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Or a not so good video if your mourning family after you end up upside down, drowned in 6" of water


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We say all this, and I know better, I still picture myself driving my 1025 across it. :greentractorride:...... :hornets:

"Do what I say, not what I do!" :whip:

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Originally Posted by Carvel Loafer View Post
I don't know but keep in mind the rails on the sides are actually trusses and add a lot of strength.

Just wondering do you have a pull behind roller. If so can you get it up on the edge of bridge and then pull it by hand or maybe with a come along.

It looks solid. as someone stated, looking up underneath or left side looks like one or more small floor support is missing..may not be it may just be the angle photo was taken .
The side rail or trusses is carrying the load putting the load back to each end. . Personally if no boards are rooted every thing is tight I would try
You may have stated this but while walking across bridge does it move at all..does it fill tight and solid , that would be no for me if it does moves just walking across.
 

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There must be some good strong cables anchored in very well for that grader to make it across. REAL BIG cables to support the ba!!s of the guy driving that thing! Not me says I. :lol:
 
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