[Brian Davis]

Brand new here, hope this question has not been answered before( I couldn't find it in FAQ) I just aquired a JD 210c with the product id of *T021CA728468* and engine serial T04239D1414890 and another number on engine plate 423 (0) (i think looks like a degree symbol) DT002

Does anyone know the year, and more importantly, what is the correct procedure for checking hydralic fluid? This was a buddies grandfathers machine who recently passed away. He does nothing with equipment, and asked that I take it off his hands and add it to my farm. I have never owned a JD, could not afford any. I have a ford 5000 rc tractor, IH dozer ect. So I have not books or info on this machine and the JD dealer is closed. I drove machine off my trailer and dug a hole about 8 ft deep. All fluids looked good and level with it shut down and cold, (Hydro. fluid 1/2 up dip stick) running hydro fluid was between h and c marks. As I was driving it to my barn, hydro's started whinning like it was low on fluid. On the right side of machine, under wheel well cover it was blowing hydro fluid out from the rear most hard line. Looks like this is a feed line that goes to the (splitter) where 6 lines, 3 rubber hose, 3 hard line hoses, all split off and go different places. I shut down the machine immediatly and lowered all the front and rear buckets and lowered outriggers not putting pressure on any of them as the machine was turned off. I removed the wheel well front plate to access the hose connectors. The rear most (toward rear of machine) hard lines nut was only hand tight. I unscrewed it and checked the o ring. it was crushed on one side almost in to. I replaced it with a new o ring and re tightened nut. I could see hydro fluid it hose and checking fluid while standing on the ground on the right side under the foot plate, fluid is still 1/4 to 1/2 up dip stick. I have not started machine, wanted to insure it will not harm it to do so. Question is again, what is the correct procedure for checking hydro fluid? Where do I add it? Straight into dipstick hole? will hydro fluid I use for my dozer/tractors and other equipment work? I am a swat team member, and have to return to duty Sunday and will be on 12 hr shifts thru Saturday of the following week. Thats why I tried to include all the info I thought may be needed. Thank you all in advance for reading and hopefully answering.

 

[kjung17]

That machine was delivered May 19, 1986 in Montgomery, Al. Check and fill the hydraulic at the dipstick. The hydraulic oil you have on hand will do, in a pinch. I'm sure Deere would recommend the Hy-Gard, but any good hyd oil will work. You may have enough oil in it to limp to the barn. Try starting it. If the pump whines for more than a few seconds, shut her down and add oil. Good luck. Holler back if you have problems. I will monitor for the rest of the evening.

 

[Brian Davis]

Thank you for answering so fast. It started fine, not sound other that motor, no whinning. it will not lift any implements. Do I need to allow it to warm up and then check fluid? Does it have a bypass for air, or do I need to bleed it off? And hydro fluid I have is Hy-guard.

 

[kjung17]

Go ahead and fill the hyd to the proper level and try it again. There should be no need to "prime" the system. I believe the line o-ring that you blew was on the pressure line to the loader valve. The pump should put pressure to the trans and loader functions before opening a pressure control valve that supplies oil to the backhoe. Keep me posted.

 

[Brian Davis]

Do I need to have it running to allow the hyd fluid to move about the system? Checking it right now, with all arms,riggers down and not under pressure, the fluid is almost to the top of dip stick. C and H levels lines are at bottom of stick. So do I let it warm up and then check level? Thanks again for answering

 

[kjung17]

You're welcome. The level will, almost certainly, drop once you get the air out of the system. I would not expect a drop of more than a gallon or two. If there are no angry pump noises, try your steering and loader functions. They may be sluggish at first, but should smooth out after a few cycles.

 

[Kennyd]

I can't add any more than Kevin did..But

:welcomedt

 

[Brian Davis]

I believe I have been checking the wrong dipstick. I think I have been checking the trans fluid. The correct location of hyd dipstick is in the front right side of machine under hood above the cooling fill isn't it?

 

[kjung17]

I would expect the trans/ hyd to be a shared system. Give me a few minutes to confirm.

Edit: I'm just working with the parts program here at home. No access to construction manuals. It does appear to have a forward hyd reservoir. Fill her up.

 

[Kennyd]

Part #13 is the dipstick for the hydraulic reservoir. I could not find the owners manual online for you.

	1	TY22464	Clamp	1		(SUB FOR AR21836)
	2	AT100035	Housing	1		-	760221
		AT135052	Housing	1	760222	-
	3	T43645	Spring	1		(SUB FOR R49352, AND R 41055THIS APPLICATION)
	4	17H148	Rivet	1		1/2" X 3"
	5	T78612	O-Ring	1
	6	AT101595	Oil Tube	1
	7	19M7402	Cap Screw	4		M10 X 25
	8	T100047	Grille	1
	9	T105985	Gasket	1		(SUB FOR T100011)
Cart	key	PART NO.	PART NAME	QTY	SERIAL NO.	REMARKS
	10	AT100011	Filter	1
	11	24M7036	Washer	6		9 X 16 X 1.600 MM
	12	14M7166	Lock Nut	6		M8
	13	AT101583	Dipstick	1
	14	38H1122	Tube Nut	1
	15	19M7843	Screw	4		M16 X 35
	16	......	Hose	AR		(MAKE FROM M87571 BULK M ATERIAL, CUT TO LENGTH)
	17	AT101565	Air Filter	1
	18	14M7274	Nut	1		M10
		24M7239	Washer	1		10.700 X 21 X 2.500 MM
Cart	key	PART NO.	PART NAME	QTY	SERIAL NO.	REMARKS
	19	E69975	Clamp	1
	20	14M7291	Flange Nut	4		M16
	21	24M7241	Washer	4		17 X 34 X 4 MM (GRILLE FRAM E TO MAIN FRAME CAPSCREWS)
		W14783	Washer	4		(NO LONGER REQUIRED, THIS APP LICATION) (USE WITH 19M7843)
	22	T145936	Washer	4		9.910 X 32 X 1.570 MM
	23	24M7296	Washer	4		10.500 X 30 X 2.500 MM

 

[Kennyd]

I would expect the trans/ hyd to be a shared system. Give me a few minutes to confirm.

Not according to JDParts: part #7 is for the tranny.

	1	19H2472	Cap Screw	11		1/2" X 1"
		19H2472	Cap Screw	10		1/2" X 1" (WITH MFWD)
	2	AT100495	Cover	1		-	737487	(SUB AT106701)(USE PM38655 GASKET SEALANT)
		AT157727	Cover	1	737488	-		(SUB FOR AT106701)(USE PM38655 GASKET SEALANT)
	3	24M7240	Washer	4		13 X 25 X 3 MM (SUB FOR T 20168, THIS APPLICATION)
		24M7240	Washer	3		13 X 25 X 3 MM (SUB FOR T20168 , THIS APPLICATION)(WITH MFWD)
	4	19H2898	Cap Screw	4		1/2" X 1-1/4"
		19H1815	Cap Screw	3		1/2" X 1-1/4" (WITH MFWD)
	5	M1970T	Pin Fastener	1		-	757994
		M1970T	Pin Fastener	2	757995	-
Cart	key	PART NO.	PART NAME	QTY	SERIAL NO.	REMARKS
	6	AT100519	Cover	1		-	757994
		AT133105	Cover	1	757995	-
	7	AT107667	Dipstick	1		-	771537	VENTED(SUB FOR AT100376)
		AT142562	Dipstick	1	771538	-
	8	19H2993	Cap Screw	2		1/2" X 1-1/2" (WITH MFWD)

 

[Brian Davis]

ok, that dip stick is the only one on the machine that is low. Oil only touching tip of stick. Wanted to insure its the hyd. resevior before adding hyd. fluid. standing by for your info.

 

[Kennyd]

standing by for your info.

It's from www.jdparts.com the same basic system the dealer uses at the parts counter and it's free to register there. There is a quick tutorial linked in my signature if you need help with it.

 

[Brian Davis]

Kennyd, can not locate anything that looks like the pic. On the floor there are no dipstick checks. Under floor on right of machine there is a dipstick, but it has to be unscrewed and looks like a trans dipstick on the rest of my equipment. Can not see any hyd line going to this resevoir either. Under front hood on right of machine, there is a cap and short dipstick (6 inchs maybe). Fluid is very low on it.

 

[kjung17]

:flag_of_truce: You guys are correct. :tongue:

 

[Kennyd]

Kennyd, can not locate anything that looks like the pic. On the floor there are no dipstick checks. Under floor on right of machine there is a dipstick, but it has to be unscrewed and looks like a trans dipstick on the rest of my equipment. Can not see any hyd line going to this resevoir either. Under front hood on right of machine, there is a cap and short dipstick (6 inchs maybe). Fluid is very low on it.

I just edited my post's above and added the descriptions. That is about as much as I can help unfortunately.

I did find this picture though:

 

[kjung17]

this is the pic I was working from. Not like the 410s that I'm used to.:thumbup1gif:

 

[Brian Davis]

Thank you both for the info and link. I see where it shows the area I was asking about as the hyd resevoir but have yet to locate a dipstick location in the manual, but I will keep looking. Thank you both again, and a owners manual will be ordered Monday.

 

[Kennyd]

this is the pic I was working from.

Slow poke:laugh:

 

[kjung17]

You guys are much faster with the computers than I am. I'm just a simple caveman.:lol: