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John Deere debuts new 4075R Compact Utility Tractor and MY2024 upgrades for 3R- and 4-Series models

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Tractor Tim




Here is the press release:

John Deere debuts new 4075R Compact Utility Tractor and MY2024 upgrades for 3R- and 4-Series models
  • John Deere introduces the new 4075R Compact Utility Tractor for MY24.
  • Building on machine durability and versatility, select 4R models and 4M heavy-duty models have been enhanced with heavy-duty front axles and technology-ready capabilities.
  • New for MY24, John Deere adds LED light packages to the 3R, heavy-duty 4M and 4R models.
CARY, N.C. (May, 15, 2023) — Offering premium power and versatility to its customers, John Deere debuts its 2024 model-year upgrades on its lineup of 3R- and 4-Series compact utility tractors. In addition, John Deere unveils its latest 4-Series model, the 4075R Compact Utility Tractor, equipped to tackle jobs for customers in the commercial snow removal and large-property owner markets. Highlighting increased reliability and technology readiness, the updated 4R-, 4M- and 3R-Series machines feature a variety of improvements to help elevate tractor performance and operator experience, especially in heavy-duty work applications.

“Our customers are always seeking solutions to help get the job done faster and with more ease. Our MY24 compact utility tractors are equipped with game-changing features to help do exactly that,” said Mark Davey, go-to-market manager, John Deere. “By taking our customer-trusted models, and elevating their comfort and performance features, we are setting our customers up for success year-round, even in the most challenging conditions.”

Built with heavy-duty applications in mind, the new 4075R Compact Utility Tractor boasts a 75-horsepower engine and heavy-duty front axle for ideal power and endurance on the job. Building on operator comfort and convenience, the 4075R, along with the full lineup of MY24 4R cab machines, boasts an electrohydraulic (EH) rear hitch control, promoting simplified operation for precise control and repeatability during rear-implement applications. To further elevate performance, packages designed specifically for snow application are available on the 4R cab models to help ensure optimum operation and performance in even the most severe winter weather conditions.

Adding to the full suite of trusted John Deere technology solutions, the latest 4-Series models provide an ideal operator experience with the inclusion of technology-ready capabilities, including integration into the already existing Tractor Plus application.

Keeping visibility in mind, all MY24 3R- and 4R-Series tractors, as well as heavy-duty 4M models, feature lighting enhancements, including LED headlights, LED work lights and an LED beacon light option for cab models. Also new for MY24, customers can benefit from elevated creature comforts, including Bluetooth Radio on the 3R- and 4R-Series cab models.


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More info hopefully coming soon!

Tim
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Tractor Tim said:
We're trying to ask what do you think is unique about your usage? What are you doing which might be hard on the front axles? Do you use a front blade? Front 3 point hitch?

This is not a 'fanboy' pushing back. ...just wanting to understand what might be the cause. Saying "anything but mowing" is not specific, helpful, nor can it be accurate based on the thousands of hours of successful use by others.
Obviously there is an issue, or Deere would not be strengthening it. None of us are arguing that.
We're just curious as to the cause.
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Only thing I can figure is the side load of boxblade when I tilt it to cut swales. I’ve had a 990,4500 axle problems, 2 4520’s with axle problems, 2 4052r’s with axle problems, now a 4044r axle problems. And a 1025r front axle leak. That’s not to mention the 4&5 levers on 4052&4044 have a problem I have a ziptie on the valves themselves to keep them from in place after they broke. I do use mine for house pads,yard finals, work like that. I have a Gannon bb with hydraulic rippers. A smooth bucket and tooth bucket. I use a Harley rake some. I do this for a living



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Sammarsh1 said:
Only thing I can figure is the side load of boxblade when I tilt it to cut swales. I’ve had a 990,4500 axle problems, 2 4520’s with axle problems, 2 4052r’s with axle problems, now a 4044r axle problems. And a 1025r front axle leak. That’s not to mention the 4&5 levers on 4052&4044 have a problem I have a ziptie on the valves themselves to keep them from in place after they broke. I do use mine for house pads,yard finals, work like that. I have a Gannon bb with hydraulic rippers. A smooth bucket and tooth bucket. I use a Harley rake some. I do this for a living View attachment 902915
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Interesting. Certainly a heavy tilt on a box blade does put a side load on the front axle, particularly the spindles. It seems a bit over the top to have that many failures. By any chance do you use the diff lock frequently?

I'm sure others on here will have more informed comments but your experience is clearly out of the norm. My tractor experience is more related to farm work, use in the woods etc. although I do a fair amount of grading and ditching on farm roads.

Please continue to add information as you get time. Someone on here will have some good ideas on why there's no many issues.
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Sammarsh1 said:
Only thing I can figure is the side load of boxblade when I tilt it to cut swales. I’ve had a 990,4500 axle problems, 2 4520’s with axle problems, 2 4052r’s with axle problems, now a 4044r axle problems. And a 1025r front axle leak. That’s not to mention the 4&5 levers on 4052&4044 have a problem I have a ziptie on the valves themselves to keep them from in place after they broke. I do use mine for house pads,yard finals, work like that. I have a Gannon bb with hydraulic rippers. A smooth bucket and tooth bucket. I use a Harley rake some. I do this for a living View attachment 902915
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Nice work.... I have not yet been seen any reference as to whether you run 4WD most of the time. I know I do when doing dirt work with my R4 tires. I still suspect the 4WD as the culprit.
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retired8610 said:
Nice work.... I have not yet been seen any reference as to whether you run 4WD most of the time. I know I do when doing dirt work with my R4 tires. I still suspect the 4WD as the culprit.
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Not all time 4wd especially on hard surfaces.
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Sammarsh1 said:
Not all time 4wd especially on hard surfaces.
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Even if you only used 4WD 50% of the time, that is still 4000 hours. I am not confident that a 4 series can handle that. Hopefully the new HD front axles will be of help.
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retired8610 said:
Even if you only used 4WD 50% of the time, that is still 4000 hours. I am not confident that a 4 series can handle that. Hopefully the new HD front axles will be of help.
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Why couldn’t it handle it. I didn’t buy a 2wd tractor look at the brochure that it’s in. None of the material says part time 4wd.
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Why couldn’t it handle it. I didn’t buy a 2wd tractor look at the brochure that it’s in. None of the material says part time 4wd.
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I just don't believe a 4 series was designed for commercial work. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you never used the 4WD, but I am familiar with what it takes to do dirt work with mine, so that is not likely going to happen. I am downright surprised you got 8000 hours out of it already. We used to considered it was time to overhaul a diesel big tractor at 8000 hours, although I have a farmer friend with 11000 hours on a JD 6410, but it is his "chore" tractor and just idles around most of the time. He has two other tractors to "farm" with.
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Back in 70s-80s-90s the years I lived through out on the farm, Grandad always traded off our Farm tractors at 2500-3000, hours. Our machines were all 2wd.

However I know from helping neighbors running some of their equipment, that there was typicaly a lot repairs needed to get farm field tractors up into that 8-10k hour range.

‘Grandad never was very patient when it came to down time, or the hefty repair bills, that tend to come with that down time. He like to trade for new machines at what he considered that sweet spot of 2500-3000 hours, where resale value was still really strong, and before we would start getting into an amount of wear and tear where down time and repair bills stared to become a problem.

I guess what I am saying is maybe put a pencil to your cost to owning those machines and doing the work you do with them, and figure out where that sweet spot is for trading them. Thinking about things to try maximize your resale values, and limit your down time and some of your repair cost, put that money toward making the trades.
See if it makes any financial since to possibly trading them off a little more frequently.
8000 hours really does seem like a lot of hours to put on a machine.
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i have both a 4500 and 4520 ...one thing i have noticed the 4500 (~2500hrs) came with R1 tires , i recently switched the fronts to R4 tires and notice more 4wd gear whine and harder to disengage 4wd which means more wear and stress in the system ....i have also noticed turning in certain ways in 4wd seems to add and reduce stress to the system .. this all came about when i added the R4 tires ......now i tend to try to take it out of 4wd more often vs the R1 tires i left in 4wd almost constantly .....

i can also see where draging a heavy box blade full of dirt or rippers would add to front end gear stresses

would be intresting to know what parts are failing in the front axle vs what parts they beefed up in the new axle
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I agree regarding trading more often. I know a guy that runs a 4066R every winter to move snow. Then he trades it on a new one every year. I had been thinking along this line earlier this evening. Another possibility that a lot of people do is lease the tractor annually and turn it on for a new one each year at end of lease. I believe this is also done for tax reasons as I have heard that the entire cost is tax deductible. Talk to your tax man. With your hours and maintenance issues, a new one every year might sound pretty good.
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I think John Deere should make the tractor more like their brochure shows and the way they advertise it. I don’t think I should have to get a new one every year or even every other year. I don’t want to go into bankruptcy over a machine that’s advertised as commercial not holding up as they advertise. It’s sad no one says man it’s obviously a jd problem they redesigned the axle for commercial work obviously It’s the user always not a design flaw.
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Tractor Tim said:
If the wind is just right (wrong..), we can hear I-65 traffic. Can see "the tower" from I-65 easily.
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Well Gosh Darn! We should have stopped by and said hello!

I think I may have seen "the tower" but couldn't make it look right.

We were on a 13 day road trip From Hilton Head to Helena, MT and back to visit Julie's Mom for Mother's Day. We were crushed for time that day (Saturday) as we went from Chicago to Asheville, NC. We were trying to break it up a bit. A stop in Indy would have been perfect to break up the driving, but would have added a day to our trip. Next time we will definitely stop and buy you a cheeseburger!

We also stopped in Moline, IL and Waterloo, IA on the way out to MT. I highly recommend the Tractor and Engine Museum if you're there. Also you can currently not access the lobby at Deere HQ (Due to the COVID (n):mad: ) Which is a shame as I think it more interesting than the Deere Pavilion.

Jeff
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ttazzman said:
i have both a 4500 and 4520 ...one thing i have noticed the 4500 (~2500hrs) came with R1 tires , i recently switched the fronts to R4 tires and notice more 4wd gear whine and harder to disengage 4wd which means more wear and stress in the system ....i have also noticed turning in certain ways in 4wd seems to add and reduce stress to the system .. this all came about when i added the R4 tires ......now i tend to try to take it out of 4wd more often vs the R1 tires i left in 4wd almost constantly .....
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If those new front tires are smaller or larger than the ones that came off you could be running into an issue where the gear ratio in 4WD is off based on the rear tire size.

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If those new front tires are smaller or larger than the ones that came off you could be running into an issue where the gear ratio in 4WD is off based on the rear tire size.

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yes.........but in this case the diameter differences were negligible and well within the wear tolerances of each type ....the R4 fronts are however much wider with a lot more contact surface to the road so resistance to slippage is more stressful in theory
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To my eyes, the hd front axle looks like it is below the centerline of the wheels. If that is the case, why not a straight axle.
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I looked through the 4 series brochure and all of the pictures looked ag related not commerical. I looked through the JD commerical equipment and see they have commerical tractor loaders. They look heavy duty and may be twice the weigh or more of a 4 series.
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I looked through the 4 series brochure and all of the pictures looked ag related not commerical. I looked through the JD commerical equipment and see they have commerical tractor loaders. They look heavy duty and may be twice the weigh or more of a 4 series.
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Yup, sounds about right. Around here we call those other ones construction tractors or I’ve heard them called skip loaders. Somewhat like a backhoe without the backhoe part lol. I wouldn’t mind getting to run one of them for a while, seems like it would be a fun machine.
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retired8610 said:
Even if you only used 4WD 50% of the time, that is still 4000 hours. I am not confident that a 4 series can handle that. Hopefully the new HD front axles will be of help.
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retired8610 said:
Even if you only used 4WD 50% of the time, that is still 4000 hours. I am not confident that a 4 series can handle that. Hopefully the new HD front axles will be of help.
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They go out way faster than 8000 hrs this last one did 600hrs. A skip loader is 100k I’ll pass
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414concrete said:
Is that all there is? Am I missing something? 9yrs of the 3R and we get a couple of LED lights…
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Exactly what I thought
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Exactly what I thought
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Imagine sitting on your laurels for a decade; it's like GM in the mid 80's. 😅
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