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I own a 2016 X570 48” mower, blower and bagger with 70 hours. I just found an X585 54” deck, 47” blower bagger and cab with 710 hours but not sure what it’s worth. I don’t need both but like the 4x4 on the 585. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have thought about buying the 585 and selling my 570.


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Here is a similar x585 with blower and cab with a few less hours.
2002 John Deere X585 Lawn and Garden - Breckenridge, Minnesota | Machinery Pete

Here is another one with no cab but has the blower and similar hours.
2003 John Deere X585 Lawn and Garden - Turtle Lake, Wisconsin | Machinery Pete

In good clean shape, and in good running mechanical condition the x585 you are looking at is worth between 6-8k depending on location and market. With the attachments you listed in good working order as well. The x585 is the predecessor to todays x738. They are very capable machines.
 

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I have a X585. As mentioned it's closest relative would be the X738. The difference being it is select 4wd vs AWD. There are pros and cons to that. Personally with the FEL I would rather be able to lock into 4wd than hope it kicks into AWD. If you have ever gone down a hill in a 2WD tractor with a bit too much of a load you would understand why I make that statement.

Another pro over the X570 is you are getting into shaft driven attachments. I am pretty sure the X570 has the belt driven PTO. The shaft driven ones are easier to hook up and remove. However I don't think the driveover deck that the newer X7xx had was ever an option. That would be even better. You might loose out on a little maneuverability around trees when mowing. Probably your only downside.

The 4wd with HDAP tires is all you need in snow. I don't bother with chains at all. That gets back into the shaft drive, with the mower you will still have the belts going from the gear box to the spindles on the deck itself but there are no belts on the blower. Also changing back and forth between front blade and blower is a snap. A couple hydraulic lines and the shaft. The only thing you need to stock for spares is a few sheer pins.

I would say the biggest issue with them is some of the earlier ones particularly had dash cluster issues. There is a known issue where vibration can cause the soldier joints to fail and they didn't use a good source for the ground. Clusters are crazy expensive but I was able to fix mine. The failure will typically show up where when running the PTO, the temp and sometimes the fuel gauge will peg out. Headlight use can also cause or make it appear more often with the PTO. So take if for a test drive and see if you have that issue. It can be addressed but maybe you can talk them down a bit on the price if it is present. I think it was resolved with the later versions. It is kind of hard to tell the year and I don't know the SN ranges where it was an issue. Mine is one from the first year they were made so it is an early one.

Other than that I had the fuel pump fall off the end of the fuel line. People here diagnosed it pretty quick so it must have happened to others. My backup switch failed. That sucked for a while because the PTO wouldn't work. Once I traced it back to the failed switch, I bypassed it because I hate the where you have to hold up on the PTO switch to back up because of "safety". No way I was spending $40 to fix something I hated. I also had an issue where the wiring harness rubbed on the lift point for the engine. This wore through the insulation on one of the fuel injectors. That caused a short which blew the EFI fuse when I would hit a bump. I don't blame that on Deere. I blame that one on crappy work by an even crappier now ex-dealer when they "tried" to diagnose the above mentioned dash cluster issue and broke more than they fixed and tried to blame it on me. They improperly routed the harness and didn't secure it right. I repaired the wiring and added wiring loom for the engine part of the harness to better protect it and have had no issues since.

Overall it a great machines. I have had a few small issues over the years all of which I fixed. One way or another. I am coming up on 1300 hrs on mine though it doesn't see the use it once did as I have retired it from mowing duties. It is used for FEL work all spring/summer/fall and snow clearing in the winter. I now change oil based on the calendar vs hrs.
 

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Here is another one with no cab but has the blower and similar hours.
2003 John Deere X585 Lawn and Garden - Turtle Lake, Wisconsin | Machinery Pete

In good clean shape, and in good running mechanical condition the x585 you are looking at is worth between 6-8k depending on location and market. With the attachments you listed in good working order as well. The x585 is the predecessor to todays x738. They are very capable machines.
I spoke to my new dealer (part of the chain you mentioned in this link) I think they said they would give me around $7k on trade for my X585.

I have a few more attachments like the blade and FEL but no cab. I also have the 3pt hitch but no rear PTO. He recommended putting it on Craigslist for $10K and I would probably get in the $8-9k range or he thought around there. While my hours are a bit higher, I also have a FEL which can be desirable.
 
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The next series after the X585 was the X728. It had manual 4 wheel drive 2006-2008. In 2009 they went to HFWD.


Looked for a pre 2009 X728 or X738 for a few years and couldn't justify the used cost. Eventually I stumbled across my X595. (Diesel version of the X585).


This series is substantially heavier than your X570 (1000# tractor alone VS 600# for the x570) so if you have some wet areas, you may need the 4 wheel drive.


I would think $7000.00-7500.00 for the package would be what I would want to pay. What it's worth is subjective.
 
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I have a X585. As mentioned it's closest relative would be the X738. The difference being it is select 4wd vs AWD. There are pros and cons to that. Personally with the FEL I would rather be able to lock into 4wd than hope it kicks into AWD.

Another pro over the X570 is you are getting into shaft driven attachments. I am pretty sure the X570 has the belt driven PTO. The shaft driven ones are easier to hook up and remove. However I don't think the driveover deck that the newer X7xx had was ever an option. That would be even better. You might lose out on a little maneuverability around trees when mowing. Probably your only downside.

The 4wd with HDAP tires is all you need in snow. I don't bother with chains at all. That gets back into the shaft drive, with the mower you will still have the belts going from the gear box to the spindles on the deck itself but there are no belts on the blower. Also changing back and forth between front blade and blower is a snap. A couple hydraulic lines and the shaft. The only thing you need to stock for spares is a few sheer pins.

I would say the biggest issue with them is some of the earlier ones particularly had dash cluster issues.

Other than that I had the fuel pump fall off the end of the fuel line. People here diagnosed it pretty quick so it must have happened to others. My backup switch failed.

Overall it a great machines. I have had a few small issues over the years all of which I fixed. One way or another.
Ditto for me. I have a 2002. Bought 3 years ago with 560 hours and am now at 760. I had the gas line problem ($10) and the switch for my backup lights went out ($13). I also had the fuel level sensor face and because the fuel pump and sensor are only sold as one unit now, that was a $325 fix. Beyond that I have no real complaints and love its versatility. Agreed, that with HDAP tires and the 4WD I don't need chains in winter even when my well pitched driveway has been a bit on the icy side.
 

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Ditto for me. I have a 2002. Bought 3 years ago with 560 hours and am now at 760. I had the gas line problem ($10) and the switch for my backup lights went out ($13). I also had the fuel level sensor face and because the fuel pump and sensor are only sold as one unit now, that was a $325 fix. Beyond that I have no real complaints and love its versatility. Agreed, that with HDAP tires and the 4WD I don't need chains in winter even when my well pitched driveway has been a bit on the icy side.
Heh, the other half of the backup switch failed on me. That switch has two parts. Normally closed and normally open. So at rest (reverse not pressed) the normally closed side has continuity so that the PTO safety circuit knows the reverse pedal isn't pressed. Because this side failed on mine, my PTO was dead. I was still using it for mowing so that was an issue. The normally open side still worked. That is the side that is one the backup light circuit. That is what threw me off a bit at first trying to trace down my issue as my backup lights worked fine. I initially thought my PTO clutch was bad but it tested good.

About the fuel pump. Sounds like you had the float side fail on yours so you were kind of stuck on options. It sucks that it is a full assembly but should your pump ever fail. While JD doesn't sell it, it is a very common fuel pump from a lot of cars out there. When I was fixing my pump which fell off the fuel line, I compared the pump to a spare I had for one of my motorcycles and saw it is the same. Like with JD they only sell it as an assembly with the float however people figured out that the same pump is used in many cars and cost $40-60. Wouldn't have helped you with the float but if anyone ever has a pump failure, don't buy the assembly.

The one thing to watch because you have an early model like mine is that dash. If you get the issue of the temp gauge pegging out, first make sure all your screen and radiator are clear and you are not actually overheating. Most likely it is a ground failure to the cluster. Someone looked up the dash the other day and I want to say they are asking a little over $1000 for them now. I have seen them on eBay for $200-300 in the past though. The issue can be fixed though and several of us have done the repair.
 

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I own a 2016 X570 48” mower, blower and bagger with 70 hours. I just found an X585 54” deck, 47” blower bagger and cab with 710 hours but not sure what it’s worth. I don’t need both but like the 4x4 on the 585. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have thought about buying the 585 and selling my 570.


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I recently traded my X580 for an X738. The difference is night and day and I'll go as far as to say the X738 is 10 times the tractor my 580 was. The full time 4x4 is outstanding and works without any issues. I had issues with turns on the hills in my front 1/2 acre when mowing with the 580. No more issues with the 738. And, if you've not owned a tractor with hydraulics you're in for a treat. Go for the 585, or even better, go with the JD 0% interest deal and drive a new tractor.
 

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The X585 is one awesome machine. Find a good one and don't let go!
 

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I have a X595 great machine I just wish it had the 3pt hitch and PTO, does anyone have idea what it would cost to add this. Trying to decide should I sell and get something withe the PTO and 3pt hitch already on it mine has 600 hrs.
 

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I have a X595 great machine I just wish it had the 3pt hitch and PTO, does anyone have idea what it would cost to add this. Trying to decide should I sell and get something withe the PTO and 3pt hitch already on it mine has 600 hrs.
Yours is barely broken in. Not sure on cost or for that matter is the 3pt and PTO still available? I imagine it is more a part for a K92 than a John Deere part. I want to say there was the John Deere and an aftermarket option for the 3Pt. I honestly haven't looked for them so maybe they are still available. Maybe the ones for the current gen fit the older models. I just don't know.

Things like this are not ones that would come up on the used market often if at all. Once you have them, you wouldn't want to part with them and even if you found a tractor for sale, most owners wouldn't break up the items and would just say a package deal. Might get lucky.

As far as if a new machine or the parts is the best option, only you can answer that. There are drawbacks to 3pt work with the X that other machines like the 1 series don't have. My main complaint is that the 3pt operates off the same hydraulic lever the raises the mower, pivots the front blade, turns the snow blower chute and is the dump/curl function on a FEL. The only option is to raise the 3pt and adjust the lower limit stop all the way which is a pain to do. Then you run into times where you want to use that front hydraulic function and the 3pt. Classic example for me is doing dirt work where I have a box grader on and the FEL. I quite often am using both so locking out one isn't an option. For others they never run into this limitation so it isn't a big deal. I don't run into it a lot but enough so that it is kind of frustrating. If you never got a FEL then it may be less of an issue.

There are some advantages to the X though so it isn't like it is all bad. It is lighter than a 1 series, I would imagine it is more maneuverable, shorter and more nimble.
 
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I have a X595 great machine I just wish it had the 3pt hitch and PTO, does anyone have idea what it would cost to add this. Trying to decide should I sell and get something withe the PTO and 3pt hitch already on it mine has 600 hrs.
I put a 3pt Ruegg hitch and got the pto from Deere. I was considering a 1025r but this X595 dose what I need,it's lighter, and no ROPS bar to worry about when mowing.
The 3pt was around $550 and pto was about a $1,000. Installed both myself.
 

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