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Is there such a thing? Insanely wet winter here and pasture doesn't drain well. (Working on that once tractor arrives.) I have buttercup popping up all over the pasture. Horses are already denied access to 1/3 of pasture as it was just completely renovated in fall. Whatever I put on this buttercup will basically confine them to stalls for as long as label requires no grazing. Ideas?
 

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i found that things highly educated people say are poisonous are not really necessarily poisonous. the animal knows what to and what not to eat. i would overseed with fescue and see what happens.
 

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i found that things highly educated people say are poisonous are not really necessarily poisonous. the animal knows what to and what not to eat. i would overseed with fescue and see what happens.
Yep, that's the route I would take too. If possible, run an aerator over the pasture first.
 

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Is there such a thing? Insanely wet winter here and pasture doesn't drain well. (Working on that once tractor arrives.) I have buttercup popping up all over the pasture. Horses are already denied access to 1/3 of pasture as it was just completely renovated in fall. Whatever I put on this buttercup will basically confine them to stalls for as long as label requires no grazing. Ideas?
2,4-D doesn't have any grazing restrictions for horses or cattle generally. I think there is a restriction for lactating dairy cows.
I wouldn't hesitate to spray with 2,4-D, keep the horses off for a day or 2, just to make yourself feel better.
 

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i found that things highly educated people say are poisonous are not really necessarily poisonous. the animal knows what to and what not to eat. i would overseed with fescue and see what happens.
I'm not worried about the horses eating them. They've got more sense than that. I'm just worried about how fast they multiply. They're vigorous growers and will crowd out about anything.
 

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Thanks guys. I suppose I could have gone rooting around on the net but I knew you would know. :)
 

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Good post.
FWIW, We have been fighting buttercup forever. The horses won't eat them but they do take over.
 

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arlen, you do know that 2,4-d is the main ingredient in agent orange?
 

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Half of the ingredients

arlen, you do know that 2,4-d is the main ingredient in agent orange?
I believe 2,4,-d is only half of agent orange. 2,4,5,t was the other half. I'm not aware of any particular issues with 2,4,-d by itself when used as directed. 2,4,5,-t has some real toxicity issues although we used the combination spray quite a bit in my younger days. I'm only delusional part of the time as a result. (Just kidding for those who don't know me. My wife says I'm crazy with most things involving tractors, attachments etc.) :greentractorride:

I wouldn't hesitate to use herbicides when needed if you are careful to apply by the label directions. Too many folks go straight to the recommended amounts and skip the fine print. That's where restrictions are usually found, including toxicity, withdrawal from contact by animals, potential volatilization etc. If you have any questions at all, contact your local Cooperative Extension office. They may be able to answer your question immediately but if not, they have access to specialists at NC State and if necessary other folks across the country.

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Good post.
FWIW, We have been fighting buttercup forever. The horses won't eat them but they do take over.
You said it. Last year there were only a few. Now it's everywhere. Unreal.
 

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That's good info Treefarmer. I haven't had the best experience with the NC coop in the past. A few people there that don't listen...it's almost like they're reading from a script. And me, well, I don't have a ton of patience with poor customer service skills especially coming from someone my tax dollars are funding. Guess I gave up on them.

I did all the needed double checking on 2,4,D. The horses are going to spend the weekend in stalls. I'm sure they will just love it. I'm spraying the you-know-what out of the pasture...rain due in a few days. By then they'll be good and ornery!
 

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You said it. Last year there were only a few. Now it's everywhere. Unreal.
Mow, mow and mow. At the very least, mow before they go to seed. IMO, mowing is the best way to keep weeds down.
 

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That's good info Treefarmer. I haven't had the best experience with the NC coop in the past. A few people there that don't listen...it's almost like they're reading from a script. And me, well, I don't have a ton of patience with poor customer service skills especially coming from someone my tax dollars are funding. Guess I gave up on them.

I did all the needed double checking on 2,4,D. The horses are going to spend the weekend in stalls. I'm sure they will just love it. I'm spraying the you-know-what out of the pasture...rain due in a few days. By then they'll be good and ornery!
Sorry you had a bad experience with Extension. The offices are like most other places, some good, some really good and unfortunately some are not inspired. One of the Va. agents moved to NC and you might call the Union County office and ask for Kelly. 704 283-3801

Let us know if he's more responsive.

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Just sprayed down the pasture with 2,4,d. Horses are confined to stalls. Fingers crossed and I'm ready to go inspect for wilted buttercups!
 
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