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Ive been really considering a 1025r, and then I went to a Kubota dealer and looked at the B2320 and the B2301, very impressed. I know this is a JD forum and Im not looking to offend anyone, however, does anyone have any knowledge to share on these models, the 2301 is very new so may not be many out there, and also looking for comparisons to the 1025r. Kubota seems like a much beefier unit. Im looking for a unit to mow, driveway maintenance, plowing, light brush hogging.

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I don't know much about them but isn't the B comparable to the JD 2 Family? I think that the BX is comparable to the 1025r.


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The 1025R does all of those things for me really well with exception of the hogging. I do not have one.

I looked at Kubota then decided on the JD because of the features and ergonomics. Price was about the same for me, also.

I would do it again.
 

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Only thing I know about the Kubota is I don't own one and good luck to you if it's what you get and I hope it serves you well. :bigthumb:
 

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Haven't looked at a Kubota for a while , Does the Kubota have drive over deck, and auto connect... Don't think so
setting on each tractor ..I have the hyd lift so I use the joy stick to lift and lower the deck all the time. Never needing to move my arm to compared to the Kubota and stretching your arm forward to lift , lower deck if you get FEL same lever .
Since you are looking at the 1025r ,, does Kubota have,, tilt wheel.,cig lighter, the 2 extra lights , cruise (you may never use) unless a very large yard or going up or down the higway and the ease of FORWARD-REV TWO PEDALS instead of rocking you ankle back and forth.

Best advice , go ask both dealers if you can use it for a while either on his property or yours. Go by the seat of your pants, and how it feels to you.
If you'll be removing the deck very often or leaving it on year around. Plus if getting front blade or other attachments such as blower, broom or FEL.
Ask each dealer if they have the attachments so you can see how easy or hard it might be to attach.

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I gave the B2601 a hard look recently for another forum member who was ready to switch to JD, he was comparing it to the 2025R. A few things really impressed me about it:

-3 Range tranny
-They finally moved the split brakes to the left side so they are usable.
-Armrest's on the seat.
-Telescoping stabilizers on the lower 3PH arms.
-Joystick on the fender.
-Optional SSQA available for the loader.

I still don't like the rocker/boomerang/treadle pedal design for the HST control, and well the color:mocking: but I do think the model in general is fierce competitor to the JD.

Also, as was noted your not comparing apples to apples with the models you listed.


The person I was helping ultimately chose the JD, but his decision was partially influenced by a bad experience at the Kub dealer also while he was negotiating on his upgrade (from a smaller BX something).
 

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Thanks guys for the info. Yes, I understand that they are different that is just where I was at financially. I can actually get a B2320 for the same exact price as the 1025r, both with 60mmm and loader, which is where my journey began. Then, I recently got a chance to take a look at the B2301 and was very impressed. Not an easy decision but a good problem to have. I appreciate you guys keeping an open mind being that Im talking about an "off" colored machine.
 

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I own a B3200.

The B series is compatible with the 2 series JD.

The loader SCV is on the tractor, not the loader frame. I think it is on the loader for the smaller BX.

The B has twin pedals, not the banana peel pedal. The forward pedal being in front of your toe, the reverse behind your heal. Been using mine for a year and don't have any comport problems with it. I like the JD pedal arrangement a little better but the Kubota design seems to work just find. For some reason JD thinks they own a patent on two pedals side by side.... Good thing Ford wasn't as selfish or lord only knows where the brake pedal would be on a chevy...

Three speed range is a real plus in my opinion, as well as the large tires. My B is much smoother than my 2305.

I don't think the L405 loader has the skid steer bucket option. Gotta get into an L series for that. They do have a quick attach adapter but I am told it is not worth it... I don't have forks yet so it isn't a problem. When I do get forks I am not timing myself like a NASCAR pit stop anyway and over the years have been comfortable taking the time to work equipment.

I do not believe the deck is drive over, nor does it have auto - maybe - it -will - connect system. I use a rear finish mower and prefer it hands down over any mid mount on a tractor I use as multi-purpose.

Get some serious seat time on both of them and then decide what you like best. Both are very good machines and will last you a long time.

I ended up with my Kubota after I learned the myth of holding trade value. I really wanted a 2720. My dealer didn't want my 2305, and apparently not my business either. I looked at the B2320 and the B2920, until I got on the B3200....

I didn't get the 2720 that I wanted, but I got a heck of a good tractor anyway.

Good luck and enjoy your search.
 

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One of the nicer things that Kubota does have is your choice of a 60" or 72" loader-mounted snowplow for their CUTS. Either, IMO, beats Deere's 54" Quick-Attach setup.
 

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I do not believe the deck is drive over, nor does it have auto - maybe - it -will - connect system. I use a rear finish mower and prefer it hands down over any mid mount on a tractor I use as multi-purpose.
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Did you have problems with your auto connect a lot?

I have never had any problem with mine and works as advertised and the machine is going on 2 years old.
 

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VIBRATION???

I didn't see anyone mention the vibration issue in some Kubota models. (I shouldn't say issue, rather than an opinion I guess)....

Realize my experience wasn't with the model you speak of, but....

I was about to pull the trigger on Kubota, but the day I took a B2620 and a B3200 for a spin, I couldn't wait to get off the machine! (especially the B3200) Please don't think I'm saying Kubota has a problem per say, but I did a lot of reading and MANY have the same complaint about many smaller models of Kubota. There is a resonance/vibration that comes up through the frame/pedals/floor boards at certain RPM ranges. When I cranked the B3200 to 540Rpm ranges I felt like I was going to get neurological damage I honestly couldn't take it! The sales person claims he never heard of this? Really? I found this to be a common issue shared with many Kubota owners... Even threads on the possible fixes and reasons behind the issue...

Overall, Kubota was impressive as all hell when it came to quality and price point. The B3200 has more power and a much bigger machine than my 2025R for less money than JD. (dealer had a B3200 w/ wood BH for under 25k. My JD 2025R was around 3k more!) However, the 'feel' of any JD was superior to me personally! And I think that is the key. You owe it to yourself to test drive them both the same day if possible. JD was a better fit and I'm still smiling ear to ear with my green machine. I think had I went with the B3200 or B2620, I'd feel like I settled. The 1025R, 2025, 2032, all felt smoother and fit like a glove. Each Kubota felt more industrial, harder, and just not a good fit.

Sure, we are a green forum, but I think most of these folks are honest and the opinions are based on more than just a stubborn love of JD. There are differences, and they either stick out like a sore thumb, or maybe are no big deal to you. It's a big purchase. Go with more than just a feature set, but the FEEL and comfort of the machine. Just my humble opinion.....
 

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I think it is also hard to make a recommendation without knowing more about what uses you are looking for and how much property you are taking care of. If it is 5 or under acres and you are mostly mowing with some driveway work, the 1025R will be more than enough. It will handle the rotary cutting too, I have cut down some 6' taller stuff with mine. I kept up mine and my brother-in-laws driveways with just the bucket on my 1026R with no problem(about 500yds total). I also looked at the Kubota because of price, but in the end some of the comfort that JD offered were much more important to me. The quick attach bucket on the JD is much better in my opinion because all the loader points are the same I believe up to the 4series tractors. This was huge for me because I moved up to a 2032R and didn't have to change my front implements. Just unhooked the bucket and slapped on the Artillian forks in about 30 secs. I also liked the seat better on the JD and the overall feel. The killer for me was the pedal. Kubota's design is just the pits. I tried it for about a minute and knew there was no way I could do that all day. Like most others have said, it really comes down to personal preference and yes budget gets in the way but do not make a decision simply based on size and power of the machine. If you are going to spend hours on it (and trust me you will), then it has to be comfortable to you and make you job more easier. The 1026R did that for me and 2032R is doing it now! Good luck on the purchase!
 

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I have nothing against Kubota. I have a Kubota RTV and haven't had any problems at all with it. I compared the JD Gator and the Kubota RTV and found things I liked and disliked on both and went with the one that had the most positives for me. When I was comparing compact tractors the Kubota tractor seemed better made than the JD. I liked the drive over deck on the JD, Kubota didn't offer that. That was the big selling point for me, maybe they do now don't know. I take my deck off after every mowing so that alone was worth it. I tried the pedal on the Kubota and couldn't use it. I could probably get used to it but I broke my ankle years ago and it still bothers me and the Kubota pedals really bothered it. The JD pedals bother me as well but not as bad. I also happened to find a used JD 2520 with 50 hours set up like I wanted. Best thing to do is sit down with both and start comparing and see which has the most features you want and has the best dealer support.
 

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Did you have problems with your auto connect a lot?

I have never had any problem with mine and works as advertised and the machine is going on 2 years old.



Never had an auto connect. Just read all the issues others had. But like the quote below, it may be an opinion thing.


I don't have a vibration issue, though I have read that others do. Maybe I just feel that I am operating a piece of machinery and don't expect a cadilac ride.





VIBRATION???

I didn't see anyone mention the vibration issue in some Kubota models. (I shouldn't say issue, rather than an opinion I guess)....

Realize my experience wasn't with the model you speak of, but....

I was about to pull the trigger on Kubota, but the day I took a B2620 and a B3200 for a spin, I couldn't wait to get off the machine! (especially the B3200) Please don't think I'm saying Kubota has a problem per say, but I did a lot of reading and MANY have the same complaint about many smaller models of Kubota. There is a resonance/vibration that comes up through the frame/pedals/floor boards at certain RPM ranges. When I cranked the B3200 to 540Rpm ranges I felt like I was going to get neurological damage I honestly couldn't take it! The sales person claims he never heard of this? Really? I found this to be a common issue shared with many Kubota owners... Even threads on the possible fixes and reasons behind the issue...

Overall, Kubota was impressive as all hell when it came to quality and price point. The B3200 has more power and a much bigger machine than my 2025R for less money than JD. (dealer had a B3200 w/ wood BH for under 25k. My JD 2025R was around 3k more!) However, the 'feel' of any JD was superior to me personally! And I think that is the key. You owe it to yourself to test drive them both the same day if possible. JD was a better fit and I'm still smiling ear to ear with my green machine. I think had I went with the B3200 or B2620, I'd feel like I settled. The 1025R, 2025, 2032, all felt smoother and fit like a glove. Each Kubota felt more industrial, harder, and just not a good fit.

Sure, we are a green forum, but I think most of these folks are honest and the opinions are based on more than just a stubborn love of JD. There are differences, and they either stick out like a sore thumb, or maybe are no big deal to you. It's a big purchase. Go with more than just a feature set, but the FEEL and comfort of the machine. Just my humble opinion.....
 

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A big part of this equation - especially for me - is a good servicing dealer. Why have I had nothing but green equipment for the past 20 years? Because my nearest dealer of any kind of lawn & garden equipment was a Deere dealer who has treated me like a king over the years. I never had a reason to look elswhere.

But now that has changed. Because of Deere's mandatory dealer consolidations my dealer is long gone. The nearest Deere dealer is now 100 miles away.

Thankfully I am not in the need for another piece of equipment right now but I'm sure the time will come sometime in the future. Now the nearest large brand lawn & garden dealer is a Kubota dealer which is still 55 miles away. So at that point in time will I look at Kubota? I certainly will because having a good servicing dealer is very important - at this point hoping they would be. The bar of customer service is set very high from my previous dealer.

But at the end of the day I am kind of a Deere person having such good luck with the equipment over the years. To the point I am pretty sure I would just go ahead and order from Mutton Power (450 miles away) and hope for no serious warranty issues.
 
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