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My next large project for the 4044m when it arrives is clearing a pine thicket for a place to put a pole barn for the equipment and a gravel pad to park my trailers on and turn around.

The pine trees are about the size of a normal forearm (3") with a few trees slightly larger (4-5").

I tried with the 3038e, but it just kind of bounced off. I'm not sure how much more capable the 4044m with a D170 loader will be compared to the 3038e with 305 loader

Any suggestions as to equipment/attachments and techniques or is something like this better left to someone with larger equipment like a dozer and use the tractor for cleanup?

I've attached a couple of pics to illustrate what I'm up against.
 

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Daisy Cutter? :lol:

How large of an area are you looking to clear? I know it is a pain, but the 4"+ ones you may have to go through and cut them off at ground level with a chainsaw.
 

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I cut mine off a couple feet above ground with a chainsaw. Than choke a strap around them and pull them out with the truck. I did around 80 poplar (ranging from 2" to 8") last fall in about 6 hrs.
 
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Thanks for the suggestions. It's actually not quite as bad as it looks.

There are only a few trees that are that big. I thought about leaving the stumps high as you suggest and then trying to push them around and then get under them with the FEL.

I really want to get the stumps out as I'll be putting gravel over the area and I don't want to constantly spray for regrowth. Also, I don't want to deal with pot holes when the stumps rot away.

I've got a couple of steel cable logging chokers that should work. Using my 5-ton truck, I may be able to pull out a couple at a time.
 

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Your 5 ton will pull the bigger ones with NO problem. The tractor / loader will pop out the smaller ones. Drop the scarifiers on a box blade and loosen the soil and pull the smaller roots. Level it off and start packing the gravel.

Justbto be safe, once the ground is clear I'd hit it with total vegetation killer.
 
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Cut and skid out the larger stuff.

Small dozer with a brush/root rake will clean the rest up in 3-4 hours, and level things out for the slab.
Hit the area with Velpar in late fall, to wipe out any of the pesky trash that spreads by rhizomes.

While you have things getting prepped, cut in for and roll out Geo-textile for the road, and get the gravel back bladed in.
It's a LOT easier to set up a building when you're not fighting ruts and mud.;)
 

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Your 5 ton will pull the bigger ones with NO problem. The tractor / loader will pop out the smaller ones. Drop the scarifiers on a box blade and loosen the soil and pull the smaller roots. Level it off and start packing the gravel.

Justbto be safe, once the ground is clear I'd hit it with total vegetation killer.

Hey, you were right. It wasn't a problem AT ALL. I didn't even need Low range or the front axle. I almost cut the tree in half with the choker. I'm gonna order another longer choker with bigger cable. I should be able to pull the smaller ones a few at a time since they're so close together.

Log chokers are a fine invention. Everyone needs at least one. Just like 5-ton military trucks....
 

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Log chokers are a fine invention. Everyone needs at least one. Just like 5-ton military trucks....
Part of why I never brought home an M35. Too big to fit in the shop, not big enough to do what I really needed to do. I almost bought an 818 a few times, but the hard facts were that a used commercial truck made a cheaper, better tow rig than a 6wd off road truck. Better mileage, cheaper to buy, easier to tag and insure, air conditioning, etc...I still kick around buying an 816 or 819, should one show up at the right time...
 

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Part of why I never brought home an M35. Too big to fit in the shop, not big enough to do what I really needed to do. I almost bought an 818 a few times, but the hard facts were that a used commercial truck made a cheaper, better tow rig than a 6wd off road truck. Better mileage, cheaper to buy, easier to tag and insure, air conditioning, etc...I still kick around buying an 816 or 819, should one show up at the right time...
I agree about the M35. I bought the 923 because it offered a lot of upgrades over most of the M35's on the market: power steering, auto trans, commercial (Cummins) turbo diesel engine, and even ABS braking.

You are right about the advantages of a used commercial truck for most purposes. The commercial trucks have A/C, radio, and much better seating for driving any kind of distances. Also the deck height of 58" on the M923 makes it too tall for standard loading docks and very difficult for regular loading/unloading from the ground without equipment. It's almost useless for common tasks like moving furniture, for example.

HOWEVER, I have mine insured as a 1990 BMY stake bed truck and I have a commercial tag the same as you would have on any other commercial truck and with a normal title. However, my state (NC) is friendly to military vehicles. Some states are VERY restrictive on titling and insurance. As far as mileage, the Cummins gets about 10-12 mpg unloaded at 55-60 mph,,which isn't too bad all things considered. I'm sure a commercial truck would get some better because of tire sizes and only a single driven rear axle. Also, my truck was fairly cheap. It had 4600ish miles and I only gave $8500 for the truck and $600 for a matching 1.5 ton single axle trailer with air brakes that's practically brand new. Doesn't get much cheaper than that and still have a quality truck.
 
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