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I have searched and read many LED threads looking for some help. I have a John Deere 2305 with the halogen work lights from John Deere and Artillian horse blinders. If I understand that people that just replaced the halogen bulbs with LED bulbs have not been happy with the results. It seems like the people that have replaced the halogen work lights with LED work lights have liked the result. If I have the wrong conclusion please correct me. I am leaning on replacing the whole light. Now the next LED work light question flood/spot LED work lights. This is what I am looking at.
Amazon.com: LED Light Bar YITAMOTOR 2PCS 4Inch 27W Round LED Work Light Pod Lights Spot Light Off Road Driving Light Fog Light Waterproof Truck Car ATV SUV Boat 4WD ATV 12V, 2 Years Warranty: Automotive
Amazon.com: LED Light Bar YITAMOTOR 2PCS 4 Inch 27W Round LED Light Pods Work Light Flood Beam Off Road Driving Light Fog Lights Waterproof Truck Tractor Car Boat Motorcycle ATV SUV 4WD 12V 24V, 2 Year Warranty: Automotive

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Just remember, you get what you pay for with china lights. It will work, and it will probably be brighter than the lights you have now. But they may fill up with water or die in a year. Or they may last years. Those ones you listed are spot beams, so probably not a very good work light. You want something that is more of a flood beam to light up around you, not light up 500ft away leaving it dark around you.
 

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Just remember, you get what you pay for with china lights.
Pretty much every LED light is made in China. Even the high end ones talked about recently here that are "designed, engineered and tested in the USA" are not made in the USA. Not saying they aren't good, just saying that they also are made offshore.

My cheap Chinese LED lights that I got off Amazon have been working fine for four years now, and they get rained on for months every year.

Something else, you can generally find the exact same item for sale at a wide range of prices. I think some sellers are wise to the "you get what you pay for" saying and list higher prices in order to capture the people that believe that.
 

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There's a difference. A US brand with quality control and testing standards manufactured in China according to those standards is not what I consider a "china light". A Chinese company selling cut rate chinese manufactured lights with very little quality control, fake test results, and totally fabricated data sheets is what I consider a China light. And that is what this light in the OP is and presumably what you have. I have them too, but I bought them knowing what I was buying. Like I said, you may get lucky and they last. But you may also end up with a fogged piece of junk.

And for any of these China lights, please understand that the specifications and data they advertise are completely made up, not even remotely accurate. You're buying a light, but you actually have no clue how many watts or lumens you're getting. The US brands have actual, real data that tests true.
 

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Rigid brand LED's are American made and of the highest quality. Expensive but worth it. Probably got 1.5k worth of Rigid lights btwn my truck and SxS.
 
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Ive been going through a similar dilemma.

Check out LED Lights, Bulbs LED Lighting Accessories | superbrightleds.com
They have a good selection and pretty good prices.

You dont need a physically large light to put out a good amount of light. Some huge lights dont put out half what a good small one will.

In my search for lights, I found out that Deeres upgraded LED lights use the wide angle or flood type on the rear, and I believe two on the front, with an additional two on the front with the spot type beam.
Deeres are made by Hella. You can buy those as well, but Deeres price is much better than you will get trying to buy the individual lights. From what Ive found, their complete kit with 5 lights and harness is about the same price as 3 lights by themselves.
Anyway, regardless, you should be able to find something decent that will work well for you.
I was looking at some small square lights on that site I mentioned just last night, and they also have weatherproof switches with somewhat custom labels.
 

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I have a set of these lights on my tractor; one facing forward, the other facing rearward. They've been great and are incredibly bright. They make snowblowing in the winter much easier (or working into the dark), especially backing up since I had become spoiled with the reverse lights on my x730.

If you're like me, you'll find once you have a nice LED flood light (flood.. not spot. We're driving tractors that max out at 9-10MPH so you don't need to see 200m down the road) or two you'll want to upgrade your headlights and work lights so they're all the same white light as well.
 
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I work for a gov't agency with over 2000 vehicles, from passenger cars, to police cars, up to Firetrucks, armored personnel carriers and ESU units. For the last handful of years, we have been using a ton of products from one of the sites just listed (superbrightleds.com) and since that time, I have used them exclusively for all the lighting in my own personal truck. Their prices are spot on and I have yet to see any failures to date.

While it may hold true in most cases that you get what you pay for, there also comes the old adage tha you are paying for the name.

So when you compare lets say, a 20" light bar from Rigid vs a 20" light bar from Superbrightled, the quality feels, appears and performs the same way. So, ask yourself, are you willing to pay close to $900-1000 or are you willing to take a chance on the same item for roughly $100.

Guess which 20"light bar is on my brand new truck. :good2:
 

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Thanks to all that replied and helped me with my dilemma.

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While it may hold true in most cases that you get what you pay for, there also comes the old adage that you are paying for the name.

So when you compare lets say, a 20" light bar from Rigid vs a 20" light bar from Superbrightled, the quality feels, appears and performs the same way. So, ask yourself, are you willing to pay close to $900-1000 or are you willing to take a chance on the same item for roughly $100.
I've never used the off-road lights (pods and bars) from superbright. I've used lots of their replacement bulbs though, and they always work great.

When you say it performs the same way, what have you done to draw that conclusion? Simply that it puts out an adequate amount of light? Or that it actually meets the stated specifications in wattage and lumens, producing similar actual results as a Rigid product? Most people just conclude it is a bright enough and don't actually compare the actual performance or data. And for most people, that's all they care about too.

I have several el-cheapo pods and an el-cheapo 24" bar, all from Amazon. None of them perform as advertised, and all of them perform remarkably less than a similar Rigid product. The chinese company that designed and sells them simply lies in their advertising, using generic LED specs at full power. But the reality is they use minimal cheap materials that cannot dissipate heat. So they underdrive the LEDs at only 50-60% power. They will advertise a pod as having 3000 lumens using 8 watts, which magically is the Cree spec value for some model LED chip being driven at full power with adequate heat disipation. But when you put a meter on it, you see it's only actually using 4-5 watts, and not producing anything close to 3000 lumens. Now take a Rigid pod with the same advertised specs and put a meter on it. It actually does what they say it will do, and it is dramatically brighter. The two Rigid pods on my Jeep's A-Pillars are nearly twice as bright as the 24" amazon Chinese LED bar on the bumper, which has 5 times as many LEDs in it!!

So, there are circumstances where you're buying a name and there's no difference in the actual product. But I've never found that to be true when it comes to chinese vs american made lights like these. But again, I've never used or tested the offroad lights from superbright. That would be a surprising exception.
 

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While I have no scientific data when comparing the superbright one to a Rigid one, what I do have is my personal feelings on the matter. So far, I have not had a reason to actually 'use' my light bar, simply because I dont gooff roading and using it on the streets is just insane simply because, it is crippling blinding to oncoming traffic.
Mine was bought simply because I had a 21: X 4 inch slot in my front bumper which was screaming for something to go into it, and that light bar fit the bill.

But having said that, we are here talking about using it on a tractor in someone yard/farm land,going what, 10 MPH? It is by far more than anyone could possibly need to do some after-dark mowing/digging/whatever.

Again though, some people have to have 'the best' and I will not disagree that Rigid is arguably considered the best. But their price point for what you are needing doesnt, in my opinion, justify the added expense. If it was a 10-20% difference, thats one thing. But when the price difference is 5-10 times the cost of an alternative well......thats a whole lot of $$$$ that could buy a whole lot of different toys for someone tractor.

Related story.......when I bought my truck, the towing hitch package for my truck was roughly $500, and the nerf bars were close to $800. I elected to not buy them when I ordered my truck, then bought a heavier tow hitch ($140) and far better nerf bars (and better looking) than anything GM offered (which by the way, have been having a ton of problems with delaminating at the time due to poor materials that were being used)

At the end of the day, I have no problem spending whatever it takes to make me happy but, Im just not up for throwing money away just for the sake of a brand name. But like everything else, its just my opinion. :flag_of_truce:
 

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So when you compare lets say, a 20" light bar from Rigid vs a 20" light bar from Superbrightled, the quality feels, appears and performs the same way. So, ask yourself, are you willing to pay close to $900-1000 or are you willing to take a chance on the same item for roughly $100.
I couldn't agree more. I have a pair of LED work lights and a Class-1 LED strobe from SuperBrightLEDs. I found the quality, fit and finish to be on par with anything else I've looked at. They've been in use for a few years now (mostly winter) and working great.

Unless you are running the Baja 1000 or something similar the state of LED lighting has progressed to the point that it is no longer necessary to spend top dollar to get quality lights. You should avoid the bottom of the barrel and the top of the pile and enjoy a tremendous bang for the buck from the middle ground.
 

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JD LED Light Kit

I purchased my 1025R tractor a little over a month ago, I purchased it with the Brush guard for stop lights which is required and
the LED kit included 5 lights (2 replacement lights for fender mount lights, 2 lights get mounted on brush guards and one down
by Rear PTO shaft area) The kit was on back order so I took delivery and used tractor for over a month and the stock lights kind
of suck especially depending on where your bucket is placed. Dealer picked it up to put the light kit on and had it for 1 day and I got it
back tonight. My first impression is holy crap those lights throw massive amounts of bright white light. I just ordered led replacement
lights for the headlights because they look yellow compared to the led light kit. While I was waiting for the lights to come in I had buyers
remorse reading all these posts, but can truly say they are worth every penny and will help out when plowing :plowsnow:
 

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Same her on my 2038R. The led package from Deere is very good.
 
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I purchased my 1025R tractor a little over a month ago, I purchased it with the Brush guard for stop lights which is required and
the LED kit included 5 lights (2 replacement lights for fender mount lights, 2 lights get mounted on brush guards and one down
by Rear PTO shaft area) The kit was on back order so I took delivery and used tractor for over a month and the stock lights kind
of suck especially depending on where your bucket is placed. Dealer picked it up to put the light kit on and had it for 1 day and I got it
back tonight. My first impression is holy crap those lights throw massive amounts of bright white light. I just ordered led replacement
lights for the headlights because they look yellow compared to the led light kit. While I was waiting for the lights to come in I had buyers
remorse reading all these posts, but can truly say they are worth every penny and will help out when plowing :plowsnow:
Ill be buying that kit myself.
I found out the lights in the kit from Deere are made by Hella. Considering about all they do is make awesome lights, its far better for me than trying to piece something together and worry about its longevity. No ill will to anyone who has done that, as its a valid idea to save a bunch of money, but in my case, Im more concerned with the actual lights, their output, and build quality, and for that, its pretty hard to beat Deeres package. Heck, I priced the individual lights themselves, and you cant even buy them for the cost of the whole kit.
 
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Same her on my 2038R. The led package from Deere is very good.
Then again, for $411 (+ $85 for the required ROPS warning light brush guards) would you expect any less? :)
 
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Ill be buying that kit myself.
I found out the lights in the kit from Deere are made by Hella. Considering about all they do is make awesome lights, its far better for me than trying to piece something together and worry about its longevity. No ill will to anyone who has done that, as its a valid idea to save a bunch of money, but in my case, Im more concerned with the actual lights, their output, and build quality, and for that, its pretty hard to beat Deeres package. Heck, I priced the individual lights themselves, and you cant even buy them for the cost of the whole kit.
Actually, that breaks down to $82.20 per light. You can beat that pretty easily. :)
 
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Ill be buying that kit myself.
I found out the lights in the kit from Deere are made by Hella. Considering about all they do is make awesome lights, its far better for me than trying to piece something together and worry about its longevity. No ill will to anyone who has done that, as its a valid idea to save a bunch of money, but in my case, Im more concerned with the actual lights, their output, and build quality, and for that, its pretty hard to beat Deeres package. Heck, I priced the individual lights themselves, and you cant even buy them for the cost of the whole kit.
Do you have the model number for the Hella lights? The previous JD LED work lights were from J.W. Speaker. Looking at Hella's LED work light choices I can't find anything that resembles what JD has in the premium lighting kit.



[Note: this photo was taken from the JD Sales Manual link below and may or may not be accurate with what it currently in the Premium Lighting Kit. http://salesmanual.deere.com/sales/salesmanual/en_NA/tractors/attachments/electrical_and_lights/cuts/blv10673_premium_lighting.html ]
 

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Actually, that breaks down to $82.20 per light. You can beat that pretty easily. :)
I was fairly clear that it could be done much cheaper, but not with buying Hella lights.
There are several options out there that arent that much. There arent many at all that will match the Hellas quality, construction, beam pattern, durability, or actual light color output (or whoever makes the darn things as its now up for debate apparently). Having seen the output, and while I understand it can be had for less, the ease of install is something to consider as well, as is the future replacement, should there be a problem.
Heck there are options that would get you 6 lights for less than $80. Just none I personally want to mess with.
Look, most people are just fine with a $25 (or cheaper) flashlight too. Thats not me. I like what I like the way I like it. Ive got my reasons...as does everyone else.
Now, if these end up being some elcheapo light that I can get for half the price elsewhere (Ive not found that yet), then somebody tell me for sure so I can save the money and get the same lights.

Im not including the harness in there as an additional cost either, since I plan to split them all up on separate switches for the ROPS mounted lights and rear light.

Do you have the model number for the Hella lights? The previous JD LED work lights were from J.W. Speaker. Looking at Hella's LED work light choices I can't find anything that resembles what JD has in the premium lighting kit.

Its my understanding that it is a variation of the Module 70. They had a version when I first looked that had 4 LEDs, just like the Deere. The current one sure doesnt look the same. Its only got 3 LEDs in it.

Now, I could be very wrong on this, and would be glad to find concrete proof, but in my research, thats what I found.
I have not seen anyone yet post pictures of the light kit itself, as Id be willing to be that somewhere on it, it would have a clue as to the manufacturer.

Anyone have any proof one way or the other?
 
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