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Excuse me and move this where it needs to be. I thought this might be useful to someone else. :unknown:

I have a King Kutter middle buster(see sig) and have used it before without issue but... I used it when I had the top half of the ROPS removed and stored in the garage.

This past fall I read a few "rollover" posts and decided to put the top half of the ROPS on and keep it folded and pinned in the lowest rearward position to be moved upright when needed. Like a lot of others here, I don't have the height needed on my garage to drive the tractor in with the ROPS up.

Today I hooked up the middle buster onto the IMatch, got on the tractor and while I was driving away, raised the 3PT. I heard a loud bang and turned around to see that the middle buster's upper frame was within a 1/4 inch of the middle of the ROPS.

Took the tractor to the garage and surveyed the damage. Luckily there was none except a very small gouge into the lower portion of the folded ROPS and paint missing from the contacted area of the middle buster.

I imagine it could have been worse if the upper link on the 3PT was adjusted to a different angle/length. Not sure. Didn't have my phone with me so no pics.

My solution to the problem is to remove the pins at the lock position, raise the ROPS to the position just above the pins holes and put the pins back in so the ROPS is folded back but not locked down. This gives plenty of clearance between the ROPS and middle buster.

Just thought I'd give a heads up
 

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Middle Buster is off but I went out and took a couple pics.
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ROPS in unlocked down position:
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OUCH! :banghead:
 

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I just have a question here out of curiosity. Why would you connect your middle buster to a I Match to mount on the tractor?
Middle busters & sub soilers are not difficult to handle without I Match. I have a box blade the weighs in at 550 pounds. I park it on a level wood pallet & when I need it I just back up the tractor, lower the three point arms & slip them right onto the pins & I'm done. Sometimes these quick hitch rigs are more trouble than they are worth. Nothing against quick hitches as they do serve a useful purpose, but not all of the time.
 

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I just have a question here out of curiosity. Why would you connect your middle buster to a I Match to mount on the tractor?
Middle busters & sub soilers are not difficult to handle without I Match. I have a box blade the weighs in at 550 pounds. I park it on a level wood pallet & when I need it I just back up the tractor, lower the three point arms & slip them right onto the pins & I'm done. Sometimes these quick hitch rigs are more trouble than they are worth. Nothing against quick hitches as they do serve a useful purpose, but not all of the time.
Once you install a QH, you don't want or need to remove it. It's big, heavy, and cumbersome. Why remove the QH if your attachments are QH ready? Kinda defeats the point of having it.
 

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Once you install a QH, you don't want or need to remove it. It's big, heavy, and cumbersome. Why remove the QH if your attachments are QH ready? Kinda defeats the point of having it.
I understand & agree with your point about the QH. I guess my problem is that if I can hitch up a 550 pound box blade without any trouble, is a QH really necessary for the average residential application? Of course I understand the time savings you might get (if everything hooks up right the first time) & how nice it is not to have to jump on & off the seat. I'm not against it. I just don't see why people think they need a QH for some of these attachments. Yes, if you have one, by all means use it. Just makes me wonder if we just love our gadgets that the simplest tasks require spending money on all the extra gadgets. Make me wonder how on earth did farmers farm before all this modern convenience stuff was ever invented.

I find this interesting. The guy across the road from my house has what I would call a hayfield. When he works it, its not unusual for me to see him use three or four tractors out there. Each one is equipped with different attachments to do the various operations. I guess if he had a QT, he could get by with one tractor? Farmers hate implement changeovers so they run multiple tractors. I don't think I've ever seen a "Real Farmer" out here with a QH on his tractor.

I'm getting lost in my own thoughts here. Bottom line is if you have a QH use it. If you can't hook up to your implement on the first try- do it the old style way & fell like a real farmer.

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lI don't think I've ever seen a "Real Farmer" out here with a QH on his tractor.

I'm getting lost in my own thoughts here. Bottom line is if you have a QH use it. If you can't hook up to your implement on the first try- do it the old style way & fell like a real farmer.

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I see a quick hitch on most 100+ hp tractors out here. By all means, if you can manhandle a 20' implement to hitch it up go for it. :laugh:

Quick hitches are a modern convenience, just like power steering and hydrostatic transmissions.
 

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As a 2720 owner myself I recommend that you NOT fold the ROPS all the way down. Insert the pin so the upper part of the ROPS is parallel to the ground - or as close to parallel as the pin will allow. This will keep the ROPS from contacting any overhead objects and will also prevent the 3PH from contacting the ROPS. It does not need to be pinned in the fully folded position as it's not going anywhere.

Newer builds of the 2720 have a slightly different ROPS bracket which totally eliminates the hole for pinning the ROPS in the folded position.

The photo below shows the older version at the top and newer version on the bottom.

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I have the older version. Below is how I install my pin when operating with the ROPS in the folded position. This keeps the top section of my ROPS parallel with the ground.

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I may be in the minority here, but I always put the ROPS up when I had a foldable unit anytime I used the tractor.
I'm with you 100%
 
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I see a quick hitch on most 100+ hp tractors out here. By all means, if you can manhandle a 20' implement to hitch it up go for it. :laugh:

Quick hitches are a modern convenience, just like power steering and hydrostatic transmissions.
Agreed. But... unlike older and larger tractors, most CUT and SCUT tractors do not have the nifty little crank on the right 3PH lift arm which makes attaching to the lower pins a breeze. Instead these newer tractors require wrenches. It can be a real PITA.

When used with compatible implements the QH on the other hand makes swaps painless. Plus it eliminates the need to adjust the stabilizer chains for every implement. That in itself is worth the price of admission.
 

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I'm with you 100%
For some of us that is impossible. EVERYTHING in my yard is low hanging. I barely have clearance even with the ROPS folded.
 
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I understand & agree with your point about the QH. I guess my problem is that if I can hitch up a 550 pound box blade without any trouble, is a QH really necessary for the average residential application? Of course I understand the time savings you might get (if everything hooks up right the first time) & how nice it is not to have to jump on & off the seat. I'm not against it. I just don't see why people think they need a QH for some of these attachments. Yes, if you have one, by all means use it. Just makes me wonder if we just love our gadgets that the simplest tasks require spending money on all the extra gadgets. Make me wonder how on earth did farmers farm before all this modern convenience stuff was ever invented.

I find this interesting. The guy across the road from my house has what I would call a hayfield. When he works it, its not unusual for me to see him use three or four tractors out there. Each one is equipped with different attachments to do the various operations. I guess if he had a QT, he could get by with one tractor? Farmers hate implement changeovers so they run multiple tractors. I don't think I've ever seen a "Real Farmer" out here with a QH on his tractor.

I'm getting lost in my own thoughts here. Bottom line is if you have a QH use it. If you can't hook up to your implement on the first try- do it the old style way & fell like a real farmer.

:lolol:

I have two tractors, a 2210 and a old JD 400 Garden Tractor. The 2210 has a I-match while the 400 does not. Trying to hook up my JD35 tiller to the 400 or even my 250lb box blade is a huge PIA. When I hook up my heavy hitch or land scape rake to my 2210 with I match it is much less a PIA. Simple as that. Until you have one you can't experience the convenience. Do you really "need" one? No but to me it is all about making things easier and faster. As I start to age, I can see how having tools that make using heavy implements easier will be really appreciated. I still have to get off the tractor sometimes when I use my I-match but I certainly do not have to wrestle heavy implements like I do on the 400.

As far as hitting the ROPS, that stuff happens. Not everything meant to hook up to a JD is completely synchronized with the rest of the machine. I would call the scar on the ROPS, "experienced gained with minimal cost", ie no damage to yourself and minimal to the tractor. If the scratch is really annoying, sand it down and then see if you can match the black paint and spray it. :bigbeer:
 

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I don't understand the point of not using the iMatch quick hitch. I have one and often switch between my rake and blade and between my snowblower and blade. It is the best thing I bought for this tractor. There is no way I would look to manually hook anything to the tractor.

That is owning a calculator but choosing a pen and paper to add up numbers.

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I have two tractors, a 2210 and a old JD 400 Garden Tractor. The 2210 has a I-match while the 400 does not. Trying to hook up my JD35 tiller to the 400 or even my 250lb box blade is a huge PIA. When I hook up my heavy hitch or land scape rake to my 2210 with I match it is much less a PIA. Simple as that. Until you have one you can't experience the convenience. Do you really "need" one? No but to me it is all about making things easier and faster. As I start to age, I can see how having tools that make using heavy implements easier will be really appreciated. I still have to get off the tractor sometimes when I use my I-match but I certainly do not have to wrestle heavy implements like I do on the 400.

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I'm not disputing your comment here. Almost everyone mentions something about age & time in this thread. I guess I'm lucky. I'm older than the dirt I stand on, & being retired means I don't have time restrictions. My motto is" It will get done when its done". I love the feeling I get when I accomplish tasks that are considered difficult, or too bothersome, etc. to do "the old fashioned way". What I find funny is how some folks have all the stuff to make a five minute task into a one minute task....but spend two hours figuring out how to set up all the time saving stuff to shorten the task. I'm just talking about me. Living a life where I get by & don't have the luxury of any "Extras", you really learn how to make do with what your lucky enough to have.
I'm just talking about me here.
 

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I'm not disputing your comment here. Almost everyone mentions something about age & time in this thread. I guess I'm lucky. I'm older than the dirt I stand on, & being retired means I don't have time restrictions. My motto is" It will get done when its done". I love the feeling I get when I accomplish tasks that are considered difficult, or too bothersome, etc. to do "the old fashioned way". What I find funny is how some folks have all the stuff to make a five minute task into a one minute task....but spend two hours figuring out how to set up all the time saving stuff to shorten the task. I'm just talking about me. Living a life where I get by & don't have the luxury of any "Extras", you really learn how to make do with what your lucky enough to have.
I'm just talking about me here.
I used to like doing things the "old fashioned way", that's why I bought the JD400, it was almost 30 years old when I bought it. I have discovered that yes you do get to the finish line with old iron (generally with a few stops for maintenance) and methods on a project but it is hard to beat the convenience of newer and bigger sometimes. So now it mostly sits while my 2210 that is half of its age does the majority of the work. If I could I would have a brand new tractor with some options on it like depth control to make things even easier but I am making do for now.

In the end it depends on your situation and you have found something that works for you. For me personally, I like dealing with old cars, not old tractors. I have found dealing with older tractors and older methods of using tractors is labor intensive and potentially time consuming and not nearly as fun as dealing with old car. However, I am new to the tractor hobby but have spent a lifetime messing with old muscle cars and trucks so my view point is a bit different. I have also learned the hard way it is far better for a machine to do heavy lifting than me.
 
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