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It has been nearly a year (by three days) since I have visited this site. I was surprised it has been this long.

It started as a fast. I gave up all social media site with a minor exception of FaceBook. That I would log in just long enough to check the messages. I have a few people who think that is a good way to contact me regards work or looking for my mom to real estate needs. Other than that, blackout.

Some people fast by food items, I decided to go dark in the social media world. Reason?, my stepson. He has struggled with alcohol for serval years. It finally came to a point that something had to be done. So I fasted looking for answers from God on a solution to this problem. Long story short, we found him a place that ended up waving the usually $25K price. Problem, it was only a month program. Not saying that isn't enough, or that people can stop cold turkey on their own, we all know stories of success like that. However, that was not our results. Slowly the drinking returned. No more high powered craft beer this time. The boy turned to spiced rum. Instead of a happy drunk that just drank till he dropped in a pile wherever in the house (or yard), this stuff made him mean. Luckily he never drove. And he didn't get physical, but maybe worse. He spoke harshly to his wife in front of the kids. She being a nurse in a recovery unit often on call, never could trust him to stay sober with the kids. Loss of a job recently due to not studying hard enough for the pop breathalyzer test only made him stay drunk pretty much 24/7. So he was sneaking out of the house to go to the store about a mile up the road. Taking a pistol to his head in front of my 7 year old granddaughter when his wife threatened to kick him out really upset me. He wanted attention and to be the victim. To his wife's credit, she did not give in to his threat.

Finally he called us for help. He admitted he was in trouble. He needed to get clean. So last week, we took him to a detox place for a week then off to a home for another three weeks of treatment. After that, well we do not know yet. We are looking at serval year long programs. We want him far enough away that the separation will help him focus on him and deal with the demons that are the cause of his reliance on alcohol. He is a good kid with lots of potential being wasted away with his dependancy. I hope this time we can have a success story. It may be a year for I can say for sure.

So today I took the grandkids to Detroit to the DNR Outdoor Adventure Center. Every year we take them somewhere for my January Birthday and treat them to gifts, food, and place to play. This time without the boy and his wife who had to stay home due to being on call. We are trying to return calm and peace to the kids world after such a volatile year. For the granddaughter, she remembers the other daddy. Before the alcohol. My three year grandson sadly does not.

I never judge those who have addictions. I have seen it too often no matter what it is. I just pray for them and thank God I do not have those problems.

So I will try to be around here more often. I really need some good laughs and read things that make me smile.

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Welcome back. Thanks for sharing. It's good to hear things are turning around, largely due to your efforts and prayers, no doubt.

I joined GTT shortly after your absence began last year. I've found many good, reliable, supportive friends here. I would never hesitate to turn to them for encouragement and entertainment. Sort of a second family...
 

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WOW that is a hard to like, Glad you are back , and Prayers for your grandson and his recovery..

Any addiction is bad , doesn't matter alcohol, drugs, porn, eating disorders. We all have a weakness and we need prayers.

My wife had 2 uncles that could work every day of the week, come Fri night they were drunk till Monday morning.
A cousin on dad side of the family could go 6-9 months , one time 11 months . Thought that time he had made it and was finished with drinking. His exwife was ready to come back to him along with their daughter. Never happened.

Sad when we cannot control our thoughts .. .............. Again Prayers to your family and to all who suffer.




Here is something that maybe will make you laugh.



A rancher was tending his herd
in a remote mountainous pasture in Montana.
From a distant cloud of dust
there emerged a speeding, late model BMW.
Out stepped a man
wearing an expensive suit,
flashy shoes and sunglasses.


The man enquired,
"If I tell you exactly
how many cows and calves
you have in your herd,
will you give me a calf?"

The rancher surveyed his peacefully grazing herd
then drawled, “Waal, sure. Why not?"

The man quickly whipped out an iPad,
tethered it to his iPhone
and surfed to a NASA website.
There he linked to a GPS satellite
to find precise coordinates
for the ranch.
Then he sent that data to another NASA satellite
that scanned the area in real time,
producing an ultra-high resolution photo.

The man then opened the digital photo
in Adobe Photoshop
and exported it
to an image processing facility
in Germany.

Seconds later,
he receives an email on his iPad
indicating image has been processed
and the data stored.
He then uses the smartphone to access
a remote database
that featured an online spreadsheet function.
After a few minutes, received a response.

Finally, the man printed out
a full-color, 150-page report
using a miniature HP LaserJet printer.

Turning to the cowboy and announced,
"You have exactly 1,586 animals in the herd."


“Waal, I guess that's right’, admitted the rancher.
“I guess you can take one of my calves."

Bemused, the rancher watched the young man
as he selected one of the animals
and stuffed the struggling creature into the trunk of the shiny new BMW.

As if an afterthought,
the rancher then asked,
“Hey! If I can tell you exactly what your business is,
will you give me back my critter?"

The young man considered this proposition for a moment
then replied, “Okay! Why not?"

“Waal, you're a congressman
for the gubmint of the U S of A”,
ventured the rancher.

"Wow! That's correct,”
admitted the man,
“but how did you guess that?"

"No guessing needed.”
answered the cowboy.
"You showed up here even though nobody called you.
You want to get paid for an answer I already knew,
to a question I never asked.
You used millions of dollars worth of equipment
trying to show me how much smarter than me you are,
and you don't know **** about how working people make a living
—or about cows, for that matter—


This here is a herd of sheep."


“Now gimmee me back my dog.”
 

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You have friends here Isaac, welcome back. Anytime you need a laugh, just visit the Good Morning thread :laugh:
 

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US. Tough story to read. I really hope the best for him and the kids. Your time will be well spent because if he succeeds or fails your guidance might just be what keeps the kids understanding the dangers of addiction.
 

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It has been nearly a year (by three days) since I have visited this site. I was surprised it has been this long.

It started as a fast. I gave up all social media site with a minor exception of FaceBook. That I would log in just long enough to check the messages. I have a few people who think that is a good way to contact me regards work or looking for my mom to real estate needs. Other than that, blackout.

Some people fast by food items, I decided to go dark in the social media world. Reason?, my stepson. He has struggled with alcohol for serval years. It finally came to a point that something had to be done. So I fasted looking for answers from God on a solution to this problem. Long story short, we found him a place that ended up waving the usually $25K price. Problem, it was only a month program. Not saying that isn't enough, or that people can stop cold turkey on their own, we all know stories of success like that. However, that was not our results. Slowly the drinking returned. No more high powered craft beer this time. The boy turned to spiced rum. Instead of a happy drunk that just drank till he dropped in a pile wherever in the house (or yard), this stuff made him mean. Luckily he never drove. And he didn't get physical, but maybe worse. He spoke harshly to his wife in front of the kids. She being a nurse in a recovery unit often on call, never could trust him to stay sober with the kids. Loss of a job recently due to not studying hard enough for the pop breathalyzer test only made him stay drunk pretty much 24/7. So he was sneaking out of the house to go to the store about a mile up the road. Taking a pistol to his head in front of my 7 year old granddaughter when his wife threatened to kick him out really upset me. He wanted attention and to be the victim. To his wife's credit, she did not give in to his threat.

Finally he called us for help. He admitted he was in trouble. He needed to get clean. So last week, we took him to a detox place for a week then off to a home for another three weeks of treatment. After that, well we do not know yet. We are looking at serval year long programs. We want him far enough away that the separation will help him focus on him and deal with the demons that are the cause of his reliance on alcohol. He is a good kid with lots of potential being wasted away with his dependancy. I hope this time we can have a success story. It may be a year for I can say for sure.

So today I took the grandkids to Detroit to the DNR Outdoor Adventure Center. Every year we take them somewhere for my January Birthday and treat them to gifts, food, and place to play. This time without the boy and his wife who had to stay home due to being on call. We are trying to return calm and peace to the kids world after such a volatile year. For the granddaughter, she remembers the other daddy. Before the alcohol. My three year grandson sadly does not.

I never judge those who have addictions. I have seen it too often no matter what it is. I just pray for them and thank God I do not have those problems.

So I will try to be around here more often. I really need some good laughs and read things that make me smile.

isaac
It will end when he wants to end it. Sad to hear this, been there, saw that, grew up around that. I quit cold turkey 34 1/2 years ago it can happen! I believe in tough love myself I have a loved 45 yr old one from another life 1300+ miles away in those boots. Been waiting for over 25 years to see the change! We want only the best for our loved ones but can't change them, it has to be them that change.
 

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ET-ur story make me :lolol:

Union-welcome back:thumbup1gif:
 

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Rough situation.

In the end if folks can’t handle their addictions especially after multiple tries the hardest part is doing what’s best for the kids and family and just getting on with your lives.
 

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Thanks for the kind words, thoughts, and support for this dark time in our lives.

The whole year had more good than bad I must admit. Well, at least for me. Maybe not so much for my daughter in law.

Ryan, my stepson, and myself installed a 11KW generator at their house as our Christmas gift to them last Christmas. He wasn't as much help as I hoped but I'm glad for Jen and the kids. Later last summer a 36" Cherry tree sliced through his 24x24 man cave in the back yard. Flat as a pancake. His JD 212 survived along with most of his yard equipment. Luckily, the Jeep Wrangler was not in there as it usually is. So he and I spent a lot of time making the garage much better. 2x4 dimmable RAB LED light panels, outlets galore, new air compressor, LED motion lights in the attic space, LED floods around the whole shed, the works. Made the garage 2 foot taller so the cream puff Jeep would roll in without letting the air out of the 33'' tires. We had some good talks. I think that mess happened for that reason. Cost me lots of money last year and time, but I thank God for that so we would have the time together.

Myself, it was as Jerry Garcia would say a strange trip indeed. My Flyin' Schnauzer service van got KO'd by a gramma on her cell phone blowing a stop sign and hitting me broadside while I was driving 40mph. The truck is damn near stripped to the frame right now. The boss decided to see if he can spend as much on it as we paid for it repairing it. Whatever. New drivers door, cab corner, rockers, and an entire new walk in service body. It will be the truck version of the 6 million dollar man.

The wife did finally say okay. I was delighted to further empty our bank account and trade her 2011 Equinox for a '19 GMC Terrain SLT AWD. She is about to retire so this will last her some time.

The two Harleys and the Indian sat most of the year out due to the obvious reasons. I plan to change that this summer. Lord willing.

Here is the boy and his new Generac and the queen and her new buggy.
 

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The Lord willing, you and your family will be on an upward trend. As others have said, addiction ends only when the person decides enough is enough. I hope that's soon.

You are doing all you can do. Being there for your daughter in law, grandkids and being a stable reliable influence is huge. The time and money is well spent but I know it's enormously frustrating to deal with. You will have lots of prayers coming for you and your family as this group has lots of caring people, as well as a few old grouches. (Most of us are both, but that's another story.)

Keep us up to date, share what you need to share and put your boots on if you visit too often. It can get mighty deep on some of the threads.

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Glad your back. Hard to like all that, has happened but glad you shared and hope it helps. Prayers to you and your family that things with work out. :pray:
 
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