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I was thinking about the pictures of Randym's shop, the kennyd projects, and Steve (jenkinsph) "home brew" implements and was feeling a little inadequate. So like any other red blooded tractor lover, it's time to compensate.

Here's two shots of my electronics "shop".

Top shelf, right to left:
"junk" generator, 50Khz to 1GHz on top of line voltage variac (auto transformer).
100 KHz sine/square generator (And old Heathkit I built in 1969)
Black box above that is a waveform generator I built from scratch.
0-50V 1.5A power supply, another Heathkit
1-20V 20A HP power supply
Another Heathkit, an old 0-15V, .5A adjustable

Middle Shelf:
HP 10 KHz to 1GHz Rf generator, on top of that is 0 to 5 MHz programmable waveform generator.
10 to 100KHz FFT audio waveform analyzer.
10 KHz to 1.8GHz spectrum analyzer with tracking generator, on top of that is 400 MHz dual channel digital scope, 1K sample memory (circa 1995)
16 channel logic analyzer, 1K sample memory (circa 1998), on top of that is 6 1/2 digit multi-meter, measures down to the microvolt level, on top of that is a frequency counter.
Bench power supply, 0-6V at 5A, +- 0-25V, 1A

Bottom:
Another bench power supply.
Hi-Pot tester, goes up to 5KV AC, 7.5KV DC
2008 300 MHz 4 channel analog and 16 channel digital MSO scope, big screen, 2 giga-samples/sec, 8 mega samples, with various protocol analyzers. It doesn't get better than this!

Bench is 4' x 8', shelves are 2' deep so can stack up the equipment and still have work space. It's U shapped, have 2 mores sides with more computers and stuff. Also have 2 more workbenches, shelves and shelves of parts, another big closet with parts and then there's the basement with more older equipment and more parts and some metal working stuff. Shop is 1500 sq feet, has a small kitchen, 3 ton heat pump.

Next shot is main computer area (have another by the workbench, and another to the right of this picture). Apple MAC with 6 screens, two of them are the 32" 2500 pixel ones. Security camera TV, right most display is also a TV. This "desk" is two 4x8 area with the corner, so equipment does not eat up depth of the desk. No front legs so you can take the chair around to any point. Building your own desks and workbenches is important since what's available commercially is just not big enough. There is room to get around to the back of the desk and the workbenches for getting at cables. No such thing as too much horse power, no such thing as too much screen area.

Yep, I'm bragging (hopefully amongst friends) and I feel better now.

Anyone else got space for their non-tractor passions they want to share?

Pete
 

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Here is some of my pictures I took today with my phone. They show two major areas in my basement, one is the woodshop, and the other is the metalshop.

Things look a little cluttered in the woodshop now, I have two projects going on-first is a entertainment center I started a long time ago, but have since lots motivation to complete-but I just bought a new Samsung 55" LED TV so my motivation is returning. The second is the build of a 24"x48" sandblast cabinet using most free acquired materials.

Highlights in the woodshop:
-10" Grizzly table saw
-14" Grizzly band saw
-Large Grizzly drill press with custom table, two fences, and a X-Y vice I can put in place of the table. It also has a laser guide.
-Dust collection cyclone system with 6" S&D pipe
-Homebuilt router table
-Miter saw station with extensions and dust shroud
-Homebuilt air filtration hanging on the ceiling

Highlights in the metalshop:
-Grizzly Mill/Drill, I hate this thing! But I get by with it for now
-10" Clausing lathe (Under the blanket) Beter pictures in my Picasa album
-Shelving with bins for bolts/hardware, 1/4", 5/16", 3/8" and 1/2" is well stocked as well as plenty of screws.
-Countertop/cabinets...I do everything there including some electronics work.
 

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Pete,
Very nice collection of test equipment, I very well remember when a simple scope needed a utility cart to move around. Most of your equipment is much better than anything I had available to use. Guess I am old school in this area I hate to say, I am ignorant of alot of the new stuff today. When I was a kid though I was very interested in electronics, got my FCC radiotelephone 1st class license in the summer before my junior year in high school.

As a hobby I would like to get back into acoustics and audio. Speaker cabinets is the how and why I got into cabinetry in the first place. I still have some JBL Pro audio, Crown electronics that I would like to pull out and play with. Some of it is still in the box (NOS). When I was younger I used to eat and breath this stuff. Now I would like to build up some cabinets for my own use, nothing for commercial interests. I would be interested in a good audio spectrum analyzer for acoustic design, and would question what that would cost today?

When I get the new shop I will be able to set up some of my cabinetry equipment and I have an unused sliding table scoring saw, two 3 hp shapers, long bed jointer, biscuit joiner, pocket hole cutter, 20" drill press and lots of other hand tools. Really am looking forward to having some organization to all of my tools.

From the looks of your setup though I know who I am going to contact when I need help.:good2:
 

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Care to explain...I've got a JET Drill Press in my basement, but thinkin ahead, I've been eying this one to go in the future garage/shop...
Happy to explain...

Any round column mill looses it center anytime you have to you have to raise or lower it. Say you are drilling a big hole and you start with a small bit as a pilot, then when you change the bit to a larger one it won't fit so you have to raise the head-you have just lost the center of the hole. Add to that, it's not as rigid as a dovetail column mill like the one you linked. Mine was well used when I got it and there is plenty of slop in the table slides also-AKA backlash.

The one you linked is fine since it's a dovetail unit, but I think it's pretty small-don't underestimate what you need.
 

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Kenny, what a great setup you have! No wonder you just keep cranking out cool projects :good2:.

Steve, sounds like you can't get that new building up fast enough! I spent 2.5 years in high end audio electronics design. I loved the work but hated audiophiles. The stubbornness and inflexibility of the audiophiles blend perfectly with the insane management and the company went under.

The audio analyzer was around $7K. Without a tracking generator, it's about $1500 less. There is a price premium paid for having a stand along unit, but having the analyzer separate from the 'scope is a win. There's a whole new class of test equipment that connects to your PC via USB bus that's a cheaper way to go. If I was doing basic test equipment for audio today, I'd look at buying cheap PCs and these sorts of boxes. When you get to a point where you want to play, we can work on finding some good equipment. I've got a $12K analyzer in the basement I don't use, it's a "connect to the PC" and the software is out of date (so there is a down side to the PC approach). Also have an old HP RF spectrum analyzer and a Tektronics 96 channel logic analyzer that I don't use much since the days of looking at the address and data bus of a processor are gone. Some guys have old tractors and attachments lying around, I've got old test equipment. I guess the good news is that it takes less space to store the electronics stuff.

There's just not enough resources (a.k.a. time & money) in life...

Here's a shot of my metal working area. The only stuff I tend to do is simple chassis for electronic enclosures. The break and shear is the most used piece of equipment, then the drill press. Kenny, that's great organization you have on your stuff. I'm good on electronics parts, but not on nuts and bolts. You can also see why I'm on the edge with a welder. So close, but it would just suck time out of me I don't have...

Pete
 

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I would love to have that brake shear! What kind of mill is that on the right?
 

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Fun Story: I got all this back in 1994. The project I was working on was on a tight schedule and I had to do a "risk production" on a chassis. That means that the chassis drawings I made went right to production with no samples or prototypes! The company I was working with at the time want to stay on schedule, so I had them buy me all this stuff for about $4K or so. Chassis came in with one hole off by about .020, and another by about .025. Had a weld shop make up a jig to hold the chassis, milled 'em, project was on time (and even with this equipment, below budget - that's how you keep getting work).

When I stopped working with the company, they wanted all the equipment they sent or I bought sent back. Asked how big their shipping dock was, got ???? back, and when we talked it out they realized they had no use for this stuff and said "keep it." On time and below budget = good relationship.

Anyway, this is all from Enco. The Brake/sheer was about $600? or so, and the table was about $125 (in 1994). The milling machine is a Taiwan knock off of a Bridgeport, a part per part copy (didn't know that when I got it, didn't like it when I found out). Remember I said I used this for chassis work? That means that an end accuracy of even as bad as .005" is fine for anything I do. Making chassis, not building engines. Milling machine is probably good to a 1 mil.

The shear is good for up to .064 aluminum, and .050 steel. A combination tool (shear, brake, and round former) has the usual jack of all trade trades off. If I were buying today, I'd want a shear good for up to .090 aluminum. I have to cut that with a scroll saw and then smooth with the milling machine so it takes a lot of time. Most of my raw "stock" is leftover chassis from many projects I've done over the years.

So, for chassis work this was a great setup at great price (for the company, for me it was a fantastic price).

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A clean desk is a sign of an empty mind.

Waste is the byproduct of productivity.

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A clean desk is a sign of an empty mind.
Guilty, I like to think I am organized. Once there it really is a time saver.

Waste is the byproduct of productivity.
True but, not really the same thing Pete. You are confusing waste and cluter. They can however be the same.
 

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I'm too embarrassed to post pictures of my pig sty shop.
Matt, after looking at most of the pictures in your Picasa album-I don't believe a word of that statement. I think your holding out on us:unknown:
 

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Guilty, I like to think I am organized. Once there it really is a time saver.



True but, not really the same thing Pete. You are confusing waste and cluter. They can however be the same.

Randy in reality you are probably right. Pete's response is more warm and fuzzy I know I am disorganized and cramming all my stuff into a 650sf shop and rental storage building isn't pretty. You do have the nicest shop and should take great pride in it.:good2:
 

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You do have the nicest shop and should take great pride in it.:good2:
Thanks Steve, but more than pride I enjoy it immensely. And to enjoy it I find organization is key. I just love opening the door and :lol:
 

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Heres where the magic happens :drinks:
Sorry for the low quality pics...had the BB with me and figured before KennyD whooped me...:nunu:

Its a small shop...thats what I hate about it. Gotta get rid of some stuff..like the Delta Dust collector in the corner....it was on clearance at lowes for 49.98...yes Forty Nine bucks...dunno if it was a mistake but I snatched it before anyone else did. :good2:
 

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Heres where the magic happens :drinks:
Gotta get rid of some stuff..like the Delta Dust collector in the corner....it was on clearance at lowes for 49.98...yes Forty Nine bucks...dunno if it was a mistake but I snatched it before anyone else did. :good2:

Funny you should mention this, I have alot of Delta stuff collecting dust.:laugh:

I just need more space to be able to spread it out and use it. Right now for instance I can't set up to weld anything indoors until I make some space.
 

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Heres where the magic happens :drinks:
Sorry for the low quality pics...had the BB with me and figured before KennyD whooped me...:nunu:

Its a small shop...thats what I hate about it. Gotta get rid of some stuff..like the Delta Dust collector in the corner....it was on clearance at lowes for 49.98...yes Forty Nine bucks...dunno if it was a mistake but I snatched it before anyone else did. :good2:
Neat and tidy, just how I pictured it:laugh: Looks nice though!

I had the Jet version of that DC for a while before I built my cyclone-works good hooked to one machine with a short 4" hose.
 

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I just need more space to be able to spread it out and use it. Right now for instance I can't set up to weld anything indoors until I make some space.
Preciesly my current problem...For example, to use my "Stand Portaband", I move the Disc/Belt sander to the floor....constantly playing musical chairs with my tools. Mini Lathe stays tucked in the corner until i need it, etc... Adds alot of time to any project when "setup & teardown" is involved.
 

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So you get more space, then you buy more stuff, then you get more space....

lather, rinse, repeat.

Such is the life of a project whore :lol:.

Pete
 
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