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I have about 15000 sq feet of grass to mow. The back of my yard is 90 feet wide and the last 30 feet has about a 20 degree slope. I would like to use a sprayer and lawn aerator. What would you recommend. I was thinking an x380 or x570, are these both overkill for this size yard. Thanks any advise would be appreciated.
 

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My "normal" recommendation anytime a slope or ground engaging equipment is going to be used is to consider the x500 series the minimum. The transaxles in the x300 series are great for cutting a nice level lawn but I remember what my dealer said to me when I asked several years ago, he wouldn't sell me anything smaller than an X500 because he said slopes really kill the transaxles in the x300 series.

He actually recommended an X700 series for my lawn, I ended up getting a used 2520 which was a great lawnmower but I sold that and now use my 3320 with an RFM and that's even better, mainly because it's air conditioned. :good2:
 
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Thanks for the advise, I know that I can get away with a push mower for this size yard and rent or have someone do the core aeration. This is a second home for the weekends and In trying to justify a JD to my wife, im also getting tired of paying the lawn guys 120 a month for the yard work. I just don't want to over due it for this size of a yard (total of a half acre but only 15000 to mow.Also do the 25 gallon sprayers work very well. I have a few 25 foot trees to spray.
 

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Thanks for the advise, I know that I can get away with a push mower for this size yard and rent or have someone do the core aeration. This is a second home for the weekends and In trying to justify a JD to my wife, im also getting tired of paying the lawn guys 120 a month for the yard work. I just don't want to over due it for this size of a yard (total of a half acre but only 15000 to mow.Also do the 25 gallon sprayers work very well. I have a few 25 foot trees to spray.
I have less than 1 acre and recently faced the same decision. The yard is very uneven and I was constantly getting stuck with my old 175 Hydro. I went with the X500 based on it having a locking differential pedal. I've not gotten stuck once since using the X500. I have one of the 25 gallon JD sprayers which mounts right on the back of the tractor which works really well. I also pull a 920 lb. lawn roller.
 

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Afterthought, whichever model you end up getting, make sure it has a user serviceable transaxle so you can change the fluid and filters easily on your own. The one thing that kills transaxles is lack of maintenance, warm climates, slopes or towing implements hasentens the service life of the fluid. Also, "fill for life" transaxles are not designed for long term service. IIRC only the top model of the x300 series has a user serviceable transaxle and I think at that point your spending more than some x500's.
 

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My x380 with 54” deck is mowing just over 82,000 sqft. It’s mostly flat with a very gentle slope over maybe 15% of it. There is rather steep ditch that runs along the road for about 150’ or so. On one side of the ditch the slope allows mowing parallel to the road. The other side is too steep however and the only way to mow it is perpendicular to the road, climbing and descending the steep bank. It’s a short climb and the x380 handles it fine. Takes an hour and forty five minutes if I mow fast...


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Afterthought, whichever model you end up getting, make sure it has a user serviceable transaxle so you can change the fluid and filters easily on your own. The one thing that kills transaxles is lack of maintenance, warm climates, slopes or towing implements hasentens the service life of the fluid. Also, "fill for life" transaxles are not designed for long term service. IIRC only the top model of the x300 series has a user serviceable transaxle and I think at that point your spending more than some x500's.
I believe it is only the X300-series models which have hydraulic lift / power steering.

There is a $1600 difference in price between the X380 and X570 (both with 54" deck).

Hard to believe I paid $5400 for my X500/48" just 4 years ago and now they want $6000 for the X570 which is basically the same tractor.
 

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I believe it is only the X300-series models which have hydraulic lift / power steering.

There is a $1600 difference in price between the X380 and X570 (both with 54" deck).

Hard to believe I paid $5400 for my X500/48" just 4 years ago and now they want $6000 for the X570 which is basically the same tractor.
They are currently offering a $500 rebate on the x300 and x500 series, I would assume sales are slow due to the price increases.
 

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They are currently offering a $500 rebate on the x300 and x500 series, I would assume sales are slow due to the price increases.
They always offer rebates this time of year. Back when I bought mine a rebate was in effect.
 
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I have the x580 and love it. Strong little garden tractor. If it were myself, and I was considering the x570, I would make it the x580. Now, I know people like to spend other people’s money but I truly feel this jump up is a good one. You get the Hdap rear tires. This is big if you plan on pulling a wagon for yard work or anything else. Great improvement in traction. You also get power steering, which is the greatest thing since sliced bread on a lawn tractor. You also get hydraulic deck lift. Now, I can’t remember, but I would check on the transaxle serviceability. You can change the filter and oil on the 580, but I’m not sure about the 570. I know one has a K72A and one has a K72B, and I can’t remember what the differences are.
 

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Now, I can’t remember, but I would check on the transaxle serviceability. You can change the filter and oil on the 580, but I’m not sure about the 570. I know one has a K72A and one has a K72B, and I can’t remember what the differences are.
The difference is hydraulic lift and power steering. When you have those the transmission will usually have a replaceable filter. I suspect it is because dirt can more easily get introduced into the system. With the X570 transmission you can only do transaxle oil changes.

I look at it more as the extra hydraulic functions requires the filter more than the filter being an enhancement.
 

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I have the x580 and love it. Strong little garden tractor. If it were myself, and I was considering the x570, I would make it the x580.
I believe his original consideration was the X380 or X570. The X570 is already $1600 more. The X580 adds another thousand so now it is $2600 more. When I purchased my X500 I looked at the X530 which had the hydraulic lift and steering. The X500 already has steering that is easily controlled with one hand. If the OP is considering something like a snow blower in the future then I would definitely recommend getting the hydraulics but if just using the mower deck it's not necessary. I've also never read where anyone broke the lift handle on a manual lift but lots of reports of broken lift handles with the hydraulic lift. Minor yes, but weird none the less.
 

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I have about 15000 sq feet of grass to mow. The back of my yard is 90 feet wide and the last 30 feet has about a 20 degree slope. I would like to use a sprayer and lawn aerator. What would you recommend. I was thinking an x380 or x570, are these both overkill for this size yard. Thanks any advise would be appreciated.
overkill? no such thing with a tractor.. buy the biggest you can afford .. buy a tractor not a lawn mower:greentractorride:
 

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Best thing to do in selecting a new tractor or mower is to go drive the different models and see how you fit on them and what you like and don't like. It's the most efficient way to determine whether you want power steering or what other options you may want.

Since you are in Florida, you should be able to test the machines year around.

Personally, I would stay away from the "D" or the new "S" entry level machines as they don't have long term hydrostatic components and grades are very hard on them. As others have mentioned, you want a machine with a spin on transmission or transaxle filter. I would also suggest a machine which is liquid cooled with a radiator as those machines tend to last much longer.

There are many great used x5xx and x7XX machines which are very good overall lawn tractors. You can get into the older machines like was also suggested in the 318, 425, 445 and even the 455, which has the Yanmar Diesel engine. I happen to have a 455 which I bought new 22 years ago and it's been a wonderful machine. But these tractors are starting to get out there in years and may require some seal replacements, etc. as would any 20 plus year old machine.

There is no replacement for simply trying the different machines yourself at the dealership. You will quickly find things you like and things which you don't care for in other machines. Short of driving them your self and trying them out, you can spend a ton of time considering machines on paper which you may rule out in a hurry when you try them.

As far as justifying the machine with your wife, just explain to her that having a John Deere is proven to be a stress reliever for husbands and they tend to be happier, healthier and live longer, more fulfilled and meaningful lives........Hey, she might believe all of that, it's worth a shot.......:laugh::lol:

Plus tell her how much she means to you and how you are sure she would want you to spend the least amount of time on the lawn maintenance so you can spend more quality time together. Plus, not paying the lawn service frees up money for a tractor payment at Deere's 0% financing........

If none of the above convince her, just tell her all of the other guys have one and it's not fair if you don't....That should do it.:dunno:

Let us know how it goes and what you end up with and of course, post pictures.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the great advice, especially the wife angle I’m still laughing. I will definitely go drive the tractors to see what feels comfortable. I don’t think that the power steering and lift is really need on my size lawn. I had also been wondering about the hdap tires, maybe if I buy the x570 the dealer can throw them into the deal along with the mulch kit.Any thoughts to both of those items, do the tires tear the lawn and does the mulching kit work well. We have zoysia grass.
 

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Thanks to everyone for the great advice, especially the wife angle I’m still laughing. I will definitely go drive the tractors to see what feels comfortable. I don’t think that the power steering and lift is really need on my size lawn. I had also been wondering about the hdap tires, maybe if I buy the x570 the dealer can throw them into the deal along with the mulch kit.Any thoughts to both of those items, do the tires tear the lawn and does the mulching kit work well. We have zoysia grass.
You will really be surprised about the usefulness and practicality of power steering, even on 1/3rd of an acre. Many members on here mowed without P/S and when they tried a machine with P/S, they were shocked at what they have been missing. Actually, a smaller lawn means more turns and makes the P/S even more practical and necessary.

As far as the tires go, dealers (good and great dealers and I sure hope you get one of these) will pretty much do whatever they need to make the transaction complete. I am completely unfamiliar with Zoysia grass so I can't comment about that.

The mulching kit is a personal choice. I have never seen the need for one as I always cross cut my lawn at 90 degree angles. A different angle each week so there are no "worn tire patterns" or indentations in the lawn.

I would ask the dealer about a "Striping Kit" and if they work on Zoysia grass. The striping kit is what makes the professional baseball fields have the "stripes" you see on TV or should you attend the game. It's really nothing more than a small roller mounted on the rear edge of the deck which slightly bends all of the grass in your direction of travel, creating the appearance of a stripe. I like the look of stripes on a lawn.

I also suggest you go to the "Build Your Own" section of the lawn tractor site on Deere's website and check out all of the options, accessories and implements available to make the caring for your lawn more efficient. The lawn tractors use a "Click and GO" mounting approach for many things, such as the rear sprayer and it's a very well thought out method for quickly changing tools on your tractor and not requiring tools.

Here is a link to the section of the Deere Website which deals with attachments, etc for lawn tractors. (See, we are a full service forum to make spending your money as easy as possible :yahoo:)

https://www.deere.com/en/attachments-accessories-and-implements/riding-mower-attachments/

One last thing to consider, is all wheel steering (AWS). Some swear by it and other's swear at it. Its designed for very tight turning radius's and for achieving mowing around trees and other obstacles and minimizing the string trimming. AWS requires power steering which is included on many of the tractors.

Please make sure to report back to us and let us know how it goes and what you like and what didn't suit your needs. It's helpful for others in the future who search and read this thread plus, the rest of us like to live vicariously through the shopping and spousal purchase convincing exploits of others....... :good2:plus we like photo's, lot's of photos.......


And if you need help with convincing your wife, try my suggestions and if they don't work, let us know and we will use our collected "wife wisdom" to provide more information to get you in trouble......:laugh::lol: It's the least we can do......

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I agree, Sulley. This was the first lawn tractor I had with power steering. I fell in love. Can turn it with one finger. It’s definitely one of those things you don’t know you are missing til you try it. But, I have a big yard. My property is 7 acres, roughly 2.5 to 3 gets mowed. These machines last a long time, get what makes the job easier. Everyone regrets one thing or another. I wish I would have went for a X7 series with a diesel. I would love to have a one fuel setup. I also think the X5 and X7 gas engines are thirsty. I use 5 gallons each mow. Point being, try it out. Don’t shrug off the little things. They do matter.
 
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