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Hi all, need to clear about 300 foot path through some woods that has some smaller trees (think six inch max stump width, but most in the 2-3 inch or less).

Thinking to get a 2032r with 46 backhoe.

What size bucket should I get? Need to sink natural gas and water lines in this trench. Presumably need to rip out/knock down some trees and rip out some roots too

Thinking of getting a ratchet rake for front of loader to assist

mechanical thumbs useful?
 

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A 2032R is the smallest machine I would think to handle the work you describe. It will take longer, but it is capable enough to get it done. I would prefer something with more ground clearance like a 3 or 4 series offers.

What else do you plan on using the tractor for once this project is done?
 

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A 2032R is the smallest machine I would think to handle the work you describe. It will take longer, but it is capable enough to get it done. I would prefer something with more ground clearance like a 3 or 4 series offers.

What else do you plan on using the tractor for once this project is done?
That would be the heaviest job for the tractor and thankfully a one time deal. I need to dig a couple french drains at some point, pull some boat trailers around the property, do some filling and grading work on a small part of the property. Landscape rake stuff that blows up over seawall, some infrequent snow removal. Have to put in a small gravel parking pad and spread some gravel around an existing driveway. Move bucketloads of seaweed, bucketloads of firewood. Pull a 400 pound boat lift out of the water at end of each season. Dig out some holes to plant some small trees. I have a few stumps rip out on the cleared part of the property. Will use a lawn tractor for mowing.

There are some 200 pound boulders that I would like to move around next to the seawall.

Maybe at some point till up a garden - maybe half acre tops.

The property is wooded near the road, and about half of it is a lawn on the lake side

thanks for the reply!
 

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Personally I think this could all be accomplished with a 1025R TLB. Sure the first job is going to take longer but is increasing the speed slightly going to justify all of the additional cost? The follow on projects you listed can easily be completed with the 1025. Two weeks ago I used my 1025 to dig out, install and fill in two 25' Culverts and shave 4 foot off a ridge. Completed the entire driveway with the exception of gravel to my retirement property to include grading and drainage. Took me three days for the 1500' driveway. Yeah I put in long hours and could have done it quicker with a bigger tractor, but that was the biggest project I had. What would I do with the bigger tractor then? Don't forget that down the road bigger tractors cost more too when you go to replace tires and such. Yeah the bigger tractor is better suited for the job...I will not argue that. But the little tractor and a little time and you save some decent :gizmo:
 

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Personally I think this could all be accomplished with a 1025R TLB. Sure the first job is going to take longer but is increasing the speed slightly going to justify all of the additional cost? The follow on projects you listed can easily be completed with the 1025. Two weeks ago I used my 1025 to dig out, install and fill in two 25' Culverts and shave 4 foot off a ridge. Completed the entire driveway with the exception of gravel to my retirement property to include grading and drainage. Took me three days for the 1500' driveway. Yeah I put in long hours and could have done it quicker with a bigger tractor, but that was the biggest project I had. What would I do with the bigger tractor then? Don't forget that down the road bigger tractors cost more too when you go to replace tires and such. Yeah the bigger tractor is better suited for the job...I will not argue that. But the little tractor and a little time and you save some decent :gizmo:

The problem with the 1025R for many isn't one of time or power. If there is a need to operate in wooded areas the 1025R is lacking in ground clearance. I could have gone with a 1025R for most of what I need a CUT for but then I'd have to go rent something else to use when I need to work in the woods.
 

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The problem with the 1025R for many isn't one of time or power. If there is a need to operate in wooded areas the 1025R is lacking in ground clearance. I could have gone with a 1025R for most of what I need a CUT for but then I'd have to go rent something else to use when I need to work in the woods.
Agreed. But that would depend on the woods. I have yet to have any clearance issues on mine in the woods at my property. With that said my woods don't have much undergrowth. I guess he would just need to look at both of them and his woods to decide if that would be an issue. For the increase in cost though for the one project I still don't think the bigger tractor is the best long term investment. I would still go with the small one and rent something bigger for the one project.
 

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The problem with the 1025R for many isn't one of time or power. If there is a need to operate in wooded areas the 1025R is lacking in ground clearance. I could have gone with a 1025R for most of what I need a CUT for but then I'd have to go rent something else to use when I need to work in the woods.
The 1025r has about 12 inches of clearance... And so does my ATV... I doubt it will be an issue..

The 1025R smaller footprint might make it easier to navigate the woods

The 1025R should do all the tasks you mentioned.

The question is whether it is worth $10000 more for the 2032R? That's is the difference in quotes I got.

I second guessed my 1025R purchase for about 10 minutes.. I quickly figured out I could do big projects and get into smaller areas which was a great benefit to me.

The good news is that both machines are great choices.. So you win either way!
 

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That would be the heaviest job for the tractor and thankfully a one time deal. I need to dig a couple french drains at some point, pull some boat trailers around the property, do some filling and grading work on a small part of the property. Landscape rake stuff that blows up over seawall, some infrequent snow removal. Have to put in a small gravel parking pad and spread some gravel around an existing driveway. Move bucketloads of seaweed, bucketloads of firewood. Pull a 400 pound boat lift out of the water at end of each season. Dig out some holes to plant some small trees. I have a few stumps rip out on the cleared part of the property. Will use a lawn tractor for mowing.

There are some 200 pound boulders that I would like to move around next to the seawall.

Maybe at some point till up a garden - maybe half acre tops.

The property is wooded near the road, and about half of it is a lawn on the lake side

thanks for the reply!
I would recommend that you think of the purchase as a longer term purchase rather than specific to this one-time project.

Based on your long term needs, the 1025R sounds like the best solution to me. There are several advantages to the 1025R:
- shorter turning radius
- easier backhoe on/off.
- better seat (and general operator comfort).

The 1-series is great to mow the yard. Not as nimble as a zero-turn, but a lot of fun. Once the RIO is disabled, it is easy to work with, even in a small yard. As you may know, I use the 1 series on only 1/2 acre.

You would like the 3 series better for the first project, but I think you would like the 1025R better for the longer term.
Use the savings to buy other implements like the 54 front blade, tiller, Artillian forks, etc.
Tim
 

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Need to clear a path and dig a trench of water lines: What size backhoe bucke...

I would opt for the 2032. There are a lot of people that have started out with a 1 series and later upgraded because it just wasn't big enough. The 2032 has more loader capacity, more hydraulic flow, more horsepower, and isn't that much physically larger. For trenching and digging boulders up, putting in and maintaining a parking pad, etc it seems like all of that would be pretty useful and he doesn't plan to mow grass with it. Is it worth the extra cost? That's a personal decision. A guy could do every bit of it with an old 318 garden tractor and a shovel for a lot less money, but it would take a very long time.

The phrase I heard a lot was "figure out what size tractor you think you need, then buy one size bigger." So far, it seems like that's working out pretty well for folks.
 

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im with 56fordguy on this. the 2032R is definitely a better overall machine.

as far as what bucket to get, i would get a 16 inch for general use and a 8" trenching bucket for trenching.
 
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The 1025r has about 12 inches of clearance... And so does my ATV... I doubt it will be an issue..
Did you get a special mod with your's?? :laugh: Deere lists the clearance on it at 7.7" vs. 11" on the 2032R.

And the larger tires on the 2032R help a lot too. :good2:

I believe the OP opened a thread a week or so ago and got input on the 1-series vs. 2-series vs. 3-series machines. It appears he's decided on the 2-series.
 

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hire out the water line or rent a mini excavator you need reach. the gas line and other work will be fine with the tractor, gas line only needs to be 18" or so deep. Your in upstate NY, water needs to be 4 1/2 to 5 foot deep, in a woods some what protected, maybe get away with 4, think frost. Biggest problem is reach to handle material, what kind of soil ? sandy you need to open it up to prevent cave ins, rocky/clay ? need more power. Even a 4 ft ditch can trap or kill you in a cave in. For me, 24" wide min. poly or copper you need to get in the ditch to saftey cover pipe.
 

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Hi all, need to clear about 300 foot path through some woods that has some smaller trees (think six inch max stump width, but most in the 2-3 inch or less).

Thinking to get a 2032r with 46 backhoe.

What size bucket should I get? Need to sink natural gas and water lines in this trench. Presumably need to rip out/knock down some trees and rip out some roots too

Thinking of getting a ratchet rake for front of loader to assist

mechanical thumbs useful?
I have 2305 loader and hoe have 12 and 18 inch buckets found smaller the better when it comes to roots wish had 6 sometimes. Have removed a lot of trees 6-8 inch easy 12-36 have mother nature helping this winter. It takes time bent bucket cylinder but it will getter done.
 

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You may have already seen this, but the video referenced in this thread does a pretty good job of showing the advantages AND disadvantages of an 8" bucket.
I think it would be helpful in the decision.

Electrical Wire Trench 260 Backhoe 8" bucket
 
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