Green Tractor Talk banner

1 - 14 of 14 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
498 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
While looking for specs for the 220r on the new 2 series large frames I found the specs for the 120R which is listed for both 1E,R and 2 series tractors.
OMPXX10623

just a bit bigger than the h120 with more lift but less breakout force.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,459 Posts
This has to be some kind of mistake, as it calls fro 23" front tires on 1 series tractors.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
498 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
This has to be some kind of mistake, as it calls fro 23" front tires on 1 series tractors.
I noticed that part also. Seeing as how they break the loader out differently in the manual for 1 and 2 series machines I'm betting the error is in the tire size


Well look at what I see here... an update?

OMW58256
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
8,808 Posts
I noticed that part also. Seeing as how they break the loader out differently in the manual for 1 and 2 series machines I'm betting the error is in the tire size


Well look at what I see here... an update?

OMW58256
The copyright date on the bottom of that document says 2013.........Seems odd that in 2017, this is a "new option". Perhaps this loader is for the international market only, like other items for many of these John Deere tractors (cabs, etc.)?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
424 Posts
The copyright date on the bottom of that document says 2013.........Seems odd that in 2017, this is a "new option". Perhaps this loader is for the international market only, like other items for many of these John Deere tractors (cabs, etc.)?
I think that's just their website being badly coded. The 2038r manual says the same, at the bottom, when you go to a page.

OMLVU31185
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
498 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
Can't give specifics for the copyright (they are often based on a variable on a service)

Here is the link to the full owners manual for the NA 120r and 220r loader (copyright 2016)

OMPXX10623
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,459 Posts
Wait...why is the H120 suddenly only rated at 512lbs? Hasn't it always been rated at 836lbs? I've seen threads were people contest that rating and lifted over a 1,000lbs with no problems.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
12,150 Posts
Wait...why is the H120 suddenly only rated at 512lbs? Hasn't it always been rated at 836lbs? I've seen threads were people contest that rating and lifted over a 1,000lbs with no problems.
This is the 120R loader which apparently can be used on both a 1-series and 2-series. The lift capacity is much lower when used on a 1-series.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,459 Posts
This is the 120R loader which apparently can be used on both a 1-series and 2-series. The lift capacity is much lower when used on a 1-series.
Yeah I know, I'm talking about the H120. The OP said that this loader had a higher lift capacity, and I was like, "Wait, what? It's less than the H120, which is 836lbs." Then I looked at JD's website and it now says 512lbs. What gives?

As for the 120R, they are probably streamlining to save production money. Why make three loaders when you can make two?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
498 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
Yeah I know, I'm talking about the H120. The OP said that this loader had a higher lift capacity, and I was like, "Wait, what? It's less than the H120, which is 836lbs." Then I looked at JD's website and it now says 512lbs. What gives?

As for the 120R, they are probably streamlining to save production money. Why make three loaders when you can make two?
It's about where measured and lift height etc. H120 specs are the same as when I bought my 1025r
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,765 Posts
There are rumors of a new small frame 2 series tractor to be released at a later date. Maybe this new loader will work with the current 1 series and a yet to be released 2 series tractor. :dunno:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,459 Posts
Okay, looked into it. Here are the specs for the H120:

Lift Capacity

To Maximum Height (U) at Pivot Point

319 kg (703 lb)

To Maximum Height (V)

232 kg (512 lb)

To 1500 mm (59 in) at pivot pin (W)

331 kg (730 lb)

To 1500 mm (59 in) (X)

265 kg (584 lb)

Breakout Force

At Pivot Point (Y)

782 kg-force (1724 lbf)

500 mm forward of pivot point (Z)

595 kg-force (1312 lbf)

Bucket Rollback Force

At maximum height (VV)

763 kg-force (1682 lbf)

At 1500 mm (59 in) lift height (XX)

789 kg-force (1740 lbf)

At Ground Level Line (ZZ)

867 kg-force (1912 lbf)



It seems as though in the R120 specs, they mixed up breakout force at 1500mm with bucket rollback force, because otherwise that number doesn't mesh with the others.

So if you accept that, the R120 has a few more pounds of lift capacity (4, 6 and 9lbs) but over a 100lbs less breakout force (if you don't accept the above, then it has less breakout force at the pivot point then magically jumps up like 400lbs 1500mm away, which is dumb).

So I wouldn't be excited about this loader. Seems to be a cosmetic redesign (curved booms) with nearly identical lift but less breakout force, not that many of us would ever notice in actual use.

If you want lift capacity, get a D120! :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,930 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
40 Posts
2026r ???

There are rumors of a new small frame 2 series tractor to be released at a later date. Maybe this new loader will work with the current 1 series and a yet to be released 2 series tractor. :dunno:
I'll just leave this here...

2026r.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zxv8iP8QDw

Yes, I realize this is an international market 2026R, but would seem to reason that it may work its way to the US as the new small frame 2R series
 
1 - 14 of 14 Posts
Top