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Well, I emailed my dealer and explained that a good number of people have been getting their air filter re location parts for free from their dealers. I also mentioned that my existing bracket was already tightened once and that the bracket actually came loose the other day while messing around with some snow. They gave me no issue at all and asked if I wanted to schedule a service pick up for them to install the relocation parts or if I wanted them to ship the parts to my house. I emailed them last Friday and I got a big box of parts in the mail yesterday! I couldn't be more happy with my dealer at this point.

The Deere solution number is #113718 for anyone who has missed it. :bigthumb:
 

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I replaced my air filter assembly yesterday. You can remove the entire assembly as a unit simply by loosening the hose clamp at the base of the air inlet hose and the 3 lock nuts on the bracket on the valve cover, lifting off the entire assembly in one piece.

A 13mm socket with extension and ratchet. Another socket of either 12mm or 14mm for the new lock nuts which hold the new bracket on the core support and a Nut driver for the clamps and a 10mm box end wrench and about 10 minutes is all it takes to swap it out. Very simple and straight forward...............

A great dealer makes a world of difference, that's for sure.:good2:

Incidentally, I found the old air cleaner elements fit many of the Kawasaki engines with the same style air cleaner housing. Turns out the filters, both inner and outer on my old air cleaner assembly fit my Exmark Zero turn air cleaner perfectly, which is nice because I have two sets of spares air filters for the old style. Now I can just use those filters in my Zero turn, including the filters in the housing I just removed which were replaced just 5 hours before removing the assembly for the new style.

If you remove the entire assembly in one piece, it amazing someone thought it was a good idea to hang the weight and mass of the old canister, bracket, strap and hoses off the bracket on the valve cover. The new arrangement is much better..............:thumbup1gif:
 

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Tha5s really good news. When I bought mine I picked through the 1025r's that the dealer had on the lot and found 3 that were just a little shinier...and had the updated air cleaner. 1 had the FEL already mounted. I told the salesman that was the one I wanted. Im glad your dealer stepped up and fixed the issue. It might save them a warrantee claim. Might as well do it now instead of later. Its nice working with that sort of dealer!
 

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Have any members gotten free air cleaner updates for tractors that are out of warranty or no?

Mine is still OK on my 2015 but I still hate it...
 

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Have any members gotten free air cleaner updates for tractors that are out of warranty or no?

Mine is still OK on my 2015 but I still hate it...
I have not. Mines a 2016. The bracket mount is doing ok on mine too but scares me a little as well. I did call my dealer twice on the issue and they are aware of it but wont cover it cause deere has not put a recall out on it. He did say if it breaks the engine then thats covered under the 5 year powertrain warranty.


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Have any members gotten free air cleaner updates for tractors that are out of warranty or no?

Mine is still OK on my 2015 but I still hate it...
My dealer told me they would replace it with the new style free of charge, but only if the original is broken.
 

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I got with my Deere dealer...I have a used tractor purchased from another Deere dealer....my Dealer gave me a credit of $75 and I sold the old parts for $40 on ebay so I came out pretty good. As a matter of fact Deere had engineered the filter at the front (non-engine mounted) as there were placed to bolt the new one. Also I picked up the little tabs when removing the side covers....I think Deere might have been reverse engineering on these units...
 

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I got with my Deere dealer...I have a used tractor purchased from another Deere dealer....my Dealer gave me a credit of $75 and I sold the old parts for $40 on ebay so I came out pretty good. As a matter of fact Deere had engineered the filter at the front (non-engine mounted) as there were placed to bolt the new one. Also I picked up the little tabs when removing the side covers....I think Deere might have been reverse engineering on these units...
The 1026R had the "new" design in 2011. That is why the holes are already in the firewall. Some "new young" engineer had a bright idea and FUBARed the whole thing, now we with older 1025Rs are footing the bill for Deere s blunder. What year is your machine? You have a decent dealer there. Hold on to them.

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Mine is a 2014, but I bought parts before dealer agreed to make an allowance. I didn't want the jerk to damage the valve cover in anyway. The new or original system is super....smooth and easy to change filter. It was a JD blunder.
 

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This whole ordel about the air cleaner is a real "gear grinder". To much depends on the year of your tractor, whether it's still under warranty, whether you have had problems and your particular JD dealer. On 2018 1025R models, in April or May of this year, JD started equipping them with the updated design. My son purchased his tractor in March with the old design and I purchased mine in June with the new design. I contacted our dealer, explaining that we had different air cleaners. The dealer in turn contacted their JD representative and he without hesitation agreed to update my son's with the new design. That being said, we are very pleased with the way our dealership and JD stepped up to the plate.

However, JD obviously felt that there was something wrong with the earlier design, or they would not have changed it mid season. It seems that JD should treat any year 1025R, whether in or out of warranty the same and replace the air cleaners at no charge if asked. The problem is that they aren't and the individual dealers and their respective JD reps are treating it as they see fit. As far as machines that are out of warranty, corporate greed wants you to foot the bill for their inept design. There has been a number of reports where a $7500 engine had to be replaced, because of a broken valve cover. I also find it unacceptable that many JD dealers have yet to be advised of this problem, even though the bulletin has been out for quite some time.

We here at GTT are a very small group of JD owners compared to the rest of the world. There must be countless examples of failure that we are unaware of. Mother Deere needs to be held accountable and address this on a consistent basis. There is either a problem or there isn't. If there isn't, why does the design keep changing? Are you listening John Deere? :confused:

PS: Maybe I should have posted this in the gear grinder thread, but I thought more members would read this hear. :read
 

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Here is clean picture of the new assy on tractor.....
I noticed many of the replacement kits installed don't have the warning label added to the canister........note the one on mine.......of course I think the label cost me $2.30.........:laugh::lol:

In fact, of all the pictures I have seen others post of their new replacement canister, I can't recall any of them having the "No Starting Fluid" warning label. I would imagine it's on the new machines which come with the new air cleaner configuration. Perhaps someone with a 2018 with the new style canister can confirm that the new machines do come with the warning label..........It's in the parts system when you order the parts.......It's part number M88198 and shows a price of $2.38.

Your canister is positioned just like mine, where the clip which holds the canister cover on is aligned where it's close to the side panel, even though in the photo you have your side panel removed. I didn't even remove the side panel when installing this system. A few others I have seen have the yellow end cover securing clip either at 6 o'clock or one was at 7 o'clock (in position), even with the rubber drain snout pointing down. :dunno:

If any of you are hesitant to undertake replacing this system on your own, it really couldn't be any simpler. A 13mm socket and ratchet with extension, a 10mm box end wrench and a nut driver to fit the clamps and you are good to go. I don't think the entire process took 10 minutes (including applying the warning decal...:lol::laugh:...).

I specifically asked my dealers service department about this issue and they told me they have seen one 1025r which did have the broken valve cover and they replaced the engine. They also said they "rarely" find the mounting nuts not torqued correctly and they make it a point to check when they are in for service on any matter.

I didn't ask my dealer to provide the parts at no charge as they have been so good to me on other matters. They dealt with my windshield issue very promptly (within 2 hours of when I called) and the total cost of the items they replaced were nearly $1,000 and I don't know if they ever did get repaid by Deere on the matter.

Also, I had one of the hoses for the front quick hitch develop a small pin hold last winter during a storm. They sent the same tech I always get and who I really like and trust, to my house and he determined the problem and ran back to the dealer, made 4 brand new hoses with fittings and came back and replaced all of the hoses and then also fabricated a special protective sleeve and secured it into place in the support ring. There is a picture of that repair below and how he secured and protected the new lines, which I think is a very good idea.



Since my air filter wasn't loose (I checked it and the nuts were properly torqued) and my strap and other pieces weren't broken, I just chose to replace this unit myself and have it done. If Deere hasn't issued a formal recall, the cost to provide the "free parts" comes out of the dealers pocket. My dealer has been so good to deal with, instead of asking them to incur this cost, since Deere won't reimburse them, I just paid for it myself. The total of the parts was near $150, and I don't mind spending the money for the peace of mind of knowing the risk of damaging the valve cover is now removed.

Removing the mass of the air cleaner off the valve cover bracket seems to have reduced the "shaking" of the engine upon start up and shut down. Having the air cleaner assembly hanging off to the side of the engine, with the bracket on the valve cover as the attachment point was someone in engineering serious miscue..........

I was also pleased to see that Deere didn't simply return to the system on the 1026r, but they improved the mounting system for the radiator core support, making the install of the assembly easier and a little more secure. The use of the bracket on the core support and the having the band which attaches to the bracket is a little easier to install, than trying to secure the wire brace on the 1026r directly to the core support with the hardware under the canister.

My dealer sells a lot of the 1025r machines across their multiple stores. From what I could tell, they sell between 1,500 to 1,800 of these a year. When I asked the parts department about how many of these replacement kit components they have ordered, he said mine was the 5th in their dealership parts system. This makes the replacement far less than 1% of the units they sell.

It's worth the peace of mind for me. I put 12 hours on my tractor plowing snow just yesterday. It's one less thing for me to be concerned about and for me, that's worth the $150. Obviously, others feel differently. That's the choice each of us get to make.

Other than those who have learned about this on GTT, It appears this issue is not very widely known among owners of the 1025r.


 

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Wondered why you didn't run the cap nuts back on the studs to secure the studs....I've found that in my equipment use... I don't really care what everyone else does with their machine...but after good advise I decide what I want to do with mine....my Deere dealer gave me a discount which is probably putting the unit at their cost....from my experience I've seen so many people run after failures...I'd rather side with prevention....machinery as sold is made to optimize profit and mods can't provide profit but rather customization for safety or mechanical long life....just my take...tks for pics....
 

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In fact, of all the pictures I have seen others post of their new replacement canister, I can't recall any of them having the "No Starting Fluid" warning label.


I was also pleased to see that Deere didn't simply return to the system on the 1026r, but they improved the mounting system for the radiator core support, making the install of the assembly easier and a little more secure. The use of the bracket on the core support and the having the band which attaches to the bracket is a little easier to install, than trying to secure the wire brace on the 1026r directly to the core support with the hardware under the canister.




I don't know how it can be any easier then the 1026 way. The 1026 uses the old style filters and don't have to buy the new smaller ones. The 1026 only has 2 nuts to take off to or tighten should you want or need to take the filter housing off or put on. Probably cheaper to buy all the parts to switch over too. Here is what a 1026 looks like...






It is solid with no movement. I've had to take it off once and it just can't get any easier.
 

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This stuff is getting a little strange from the engineering prespective. Maybe they had the top mounted from the engine supplier....I see they did change the cannister?
 

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They're reverting back to the 1026R designs. There were 2. North American and European. Most noticeably different brackets to hold the canister to the radiator support. I don't recall right off if the canisters were the same though. Both work.
 

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I'll start going to all the models for parts in the future. I like your design with the one bracket over the new one for 1025R but I'll leave mine as is. These Deere engineers must be on stereods….why can't they keep it simple...
 

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I'll start going to all the models for parts in the future. I like your design with the one bracket over the new one for 1025R but I'll leave mine as is. These Deere engineers must be on stereods….why can't they keep it simple...
It is called new engineers. Just like the jackasses in DC, they have to come up with new designs to justify thier existance. It is interesting if we can do the correction for only 5 bucks. Bet that bracket will soon cost 150 bucks or so. Mother Deere should pay for fixing thier FUBAR design failures, right back to the start of the screwed pooch design, not the loyal customers who bought the FUBAR design. Green paint is nice, but this is getting rediculous.

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