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New attachments for the X749 needed

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I am thinking about adding a new 48" tiller something along the lines of a Deere 647 or similar. Is anyone familiar with these smaller width units or a competing unit? I want a heavy duty unit in a narrow width. Need this to get the tight spots in my customer yards, I have a 673 for my 4520 already.

The other thing I am looking into is snow blades and blowers, this would be for driveways and sidewalks. I confess that snow equipment is where I am the most ignorant. We tend to get several snows a year that are 3 to 6 inches and on occasion we have 12 to 24 inches over 24 hours, that isn't normal though.

Has anyone compared the Frontier equipment closely to the Deere branded stuff?
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My father has an 1157 tiller. I know its a touch larger than what your looking at, but it seems like a well built tiller. It does not compare to my 673, but it does not need to. IMHO the smaller Frontier lines are good, but they are all made by Machio (sp) so I would look at buying one of those direct rather than paying for the green paint.
When you say it doesn't compare to the 673 could you be more specific? I have been considering the 647 because it appears to be comparable to the 673.
The 1157 is a Frontier model and most of the guards on it have broke. Its an offset tiller so it has a few guards off the main gear box that cover the floating shaft. They sit and vibrate until they brake. They need to be held in with more than one bolt.

The tines on it do not seem to wear as well. My 673 takes care of a ton of hard packed ground and the tines look fairly new. The tines on the 1157 are looking fairly rough for only taking care of a small garden. I think it has to do with the hardness of the material used. Also, the chain on the 1157 is a bit smaller than the 673, but it has less to move also. Your talking about comparing a 1200 pound machine with a 600 pound machine. There are serious differences.

Common misconception...
Case in point, Frontier SB1174 Blower = RAD/Blizzard B74. I coulda bought the Frontier for 50 bucks CHEAPER then my OEM version...I wouldnt make a blanket statement saying the JD Green ones are more expensive. I know for me, whether its a Rear Blade, Snowblower or Power Rake, the Frontier units at my dealer are usually same if not cheaper priced then the OEM branded ones.

Personally it p'ed me off to no extent...I'd rather have a Green blower then a Red one...
It might be true in that case Dave, but when we went looking we could get the Machio tiller for about 300 less than the Frontier. There is no questioning who makes the frontier tiller when you take it apart, everything is labeled maschio! So I am sorry, I was not trying to make a blanket statement, just letting everyone know my experience with Frontier and Machio.


I have a 47" snow blower for the front of my 445. I would only go with a front blower on that machine! They have a nice QA for up there and you will have to buy it to put the broom on. You would switch between your broom and snowblower as fast as you could a QA three point item. I would also be unsure about turning a rear blower with that size of tractor. There is not a ton of weight in the front.

Hope that helps.
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Any one have an idea of how much snow can be removed with one of the brooms?

Just trying to decide how much of this stuff I need, my main issue is not damaging the surface and leaving a clean surface. I have little experience with any of this snow equipment. The blower looks good IF I have a place to blow the snow, the blade looks good for light snows and the broom looks good for cleaning up the sidewalks. This isn't something I am looking forward to, just need to keep the customers happy.

What are the best uses for the snowblower, broom and blade? What are the limitations of each.
We use both here in Michigan. I agree with Randy also, anything less than 3"s you can broom it. If you are working on peoples drives that are asphalt, then a broom might be your best weapon. There is very little chance of gouging or breaking stuff up. Sidewalks are also a great place for a broom IF they are unlevel as it will not catch on a high side. But, the broom, like a plow, creates a pile and the pile will drift over faster.

Most companies around here blow the driveways then broom them to perfection. If you leave just a little bit of snow on dark concrete or asphalt, it will melt and turn to ice. I have no clue how high end your customers are, but you might want to consider it.
In the winter on the farm, we have a 4110 with a blower on the front and the blade on the rear. IMHO, it is a train. Its so long that you have to really watch everything you do and it makes blowing a pain. IMHO, a rear blower might be a little more compact, but...

In Michigan, I would say use chains. But if you are running on big $$$ estates and you go a bit to fast and stop your chains will scratch the cement. You can also spin out and scratch stuff up. Plastic chains might be better.

For the amount of snow you are working with and the temps you will have, I doubt you will have much issue. IMHO, a blower in gravel sucks. You trow the stones in the lawn or somewhere they should not be, unless you can let the top get a glaze of ice.

If you had a blower on the front and a rubber bladed snow pull on the rear, it might be best. Look at a snow push and build a nice small tight fitting one for the rear.
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Front mount blowers are expensive. You are correct, you can get a small front mount, or a medium sized rear mount for the same price.

I have an 84" snow push. I love it for what I do, but some would not like it since I have to push everything in front of me and not let it drift off to one side of a plow.

I keep thining of making a small one for the 3 point to get in the hard to reach areas, but time is a problem.
I have never had a pull behind blower. The issue I see is that you are packing the snow down with your tires and then trying to scrape it off the ground with the blower. I would be affraid that you would leave tire tracks behind.

IMHO, you will love the snow push! I could not live without mine.
Well, here is the deal..... If you had a real-real dry powdery snow, I think the rubber scrapper on the snow push would wear out fast from the dry pavement. Here we ussually have enough snow to make it lubricate the rubber. IF we got a light snow, I would take out the leaf blower and blow it off.

I have to assume that the light snow you are talking about is heavier than something you would use a leaf blower with. With that said, I think it would scrape it away since your 749 will not pack it too bad. Sometimes I have issues getting the driveway perfectly clean if we get a wet snow, I drive over it with trucks, then it gets cold, then I try to remove it.

IMHO, you are on the right track. The only thing I would want to do if I was in your position is be able to snow blow down a pile I made with the snow push. with a pull behind, that would not be possible.

Let me get you some pics of my push... One sec.
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Here is my push. You can see the rubber replaceable blade. This can be replaced with nylon for more "power" It is also adjustable up and down for more pressure.

The biggest issue I have is that I cannot get close to anything I want to back drag due to the legnth of the side wings. I have to drive next to it and turn the snow away. Small price to pay to me. If the wings were rmovable, it would rock! I could do just about anything with it then.

You can see where my snow blower is. It has not moved in the last 3 years.


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Those are nice

IMHO, a 8'er might be on the big side for a 110, but as long as you don't have too much snow you should be ok. With my 3720 I had trouble turning with a ton of snow up front. I know the 4520 will be better and I know I would never go bigger for what I use it for. Long straight parking lots would be tough for me since all the snow you pick up, you push, unlike a plow that moves some to the side. You can always take a 1/2 swipe though.

Do you have loaded tires?
Never used a "Genuine" Snowpush with wings, I can imagine with a full push it would be alot to handle, but I know the 7.5' blade I built/modded for my 3520 is not what I'd call too much.....I've considered making a set of small wings, but I really only use it in reverse to back drag anyways. The blower does the heavy lifting for me.

Any interest in making your own? I've got less then $500.00 in mine. Started with a 7.5' Fisher blade, removed all the factory brackets, fabbed up the SS/QA, had everything professionally powdercoated and voila.
Dave, the issue with a snowpush being too large, IMHO, is your first push. You have to take a full swath and push it the full distance it needs to be pushed. For me, I might have to push 7 foot wide of snow a foot deep. It piles up and starts coming over the top and becomes a ton of snow to push! Once thats done, you can take partial swaths. Without wings the snow would get pushed to one side or another.... For me, a 72 inch wide one would be perfect! The 84 is a touch wide, but the heavier 4520 should handle it better.
The back on mine is not curved, but there are angles to the flat sheet that would be easy to make. As far as an edge, are you talking about the rubber cutting edge? Those are cheap.

If you need specs, measurments or more pictures just let me know.

FYI, I found mine for less than 1K. A new model of what I have is 1,600 MSRP.
I will measure mine up for you tomorrow. Mine is a 7 footer.

Here is a picture of an 8 footer.

I cannot find the parts on JD Parts?
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