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Yo...! It's that time. I'm ready to purchase a new mower.

It's not realistic to get one for my 1025 as it would tear my yard up near the house, & not be very nimble in some of the tight spots. I love my TLB but, am quite content to keep mowing duties to another machine.

I'm trying to decide which way to go. I'm not interested in a zero turn, & have been looking at the E-170 yet, am trying to figure out if that makes the most sense or, if I should be looking at the X300 series, & S240.

I don't live in suburbia. I live in the mountains, & have mostly wooded property. However, I mow a couple acres of grass which is mostly smooth, & some minor hills. About an acre of it is around my house, & the rest I usually mow on high settings as the terrain isn't as "smooth" as around my house.

I would love to have the best everything but, as is the case for most of us, price does matter. I'm coming from a 2003ish big box green machine LA100 I believe. We don't get along anymore, & it left me stranded the other day lol. At the time, I needed a mower right now, this minute, & was broke. It was the cheapest one they had, & served me okay for 15yrs. It spent a lot of it's years in the elements.

My new machine will reside in it's own garden shed (built last fall), out of the elements.

Lowe's lists the E-170 for $2,399. I imagine a Memorial day sale will take some off. I also get another 10% as my wife is a Lowe's manager. Even with that said, I'm not opposed to buying from my JD dealer, especially if the cost is justified. I've been incredibly happy with my 1025 R purchase of Oct '16. What I've been able to do with that machine...... wow.

Anyways, just looking for some advice, some info, etc. Are the JD dealer supplied machines REALLY worth the money to just be a lawn mower...? I don't need any of the tractor features, got that covered. I just need a good reliable lawn mower for the next 20yrs.

Thoughts..?
 

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IMO buy a 54" MMM for your 1025, there is no way I would buy a Big Box rider mowing 2 acres with a 1025 on your property. Remove the fel and BH and mow.

I've mowed my front yard, back yard, mow a cemetery, and a neighbors 2+ for close to 15 yrs using JD sub compacts.

Any rider will tear up your yard , or if plowing snow damage a driveway if you don't use caution. Even in 4wd you just have to take it easy making turns.

Your quote Anyways, just looking for some advice, some info, etc. Are the JD dealer supplied machines REALLY worth the money to just be a lawn mower...? I don't need any of the tractor features, got that covered. I just need a good reliable lawn mower for the next 20yrs.


You have it now your 1025
 

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You're going to get a lot of varied opinions on this and I'll start by throwing out mine.

The current E1XX machines are just new versions of your old LA100. If you were happy with your LA100, then the E100 machines may be fine for you.

But if you really want something that will last 20-years, I'd look at the upper end of the X300-series machines. Because you have several acres to mow, I'd start with something like the X380 with a 54-inch deck.
 

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I had a JD 285, 30" deck bought new in 1989. I wanted to upgrade. I made a want list. Liquid cooled. Power steering. AWS (All Wheel Steer) so many mixed reviews I wanted to try one for myself. Bigger deck. Diesel (if no more than $600 additional).

I like the high end JDs. Price was major concern now that I am retired and fixed income, so looked for used and continued to use the 285.

I looked mainly at x4XX series. I finally found a 500 hour x485 that looked great. Liquid cooled, PS, AWS, 62" deck. Everything but diesel. The diesels I was finding were either $1500 more for low hour units or $500-800 more, high hours and "well used/rough" condition.

11 months later the 285 was stolen from a locked garage. Walk door destroyed to gain entry.

I do not consider the Lowes JDs 20 year tractors
 

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You're going to get a lot of varied opinions on this and I'll start by throwing out mine.

The current E1XX machines are just new versions of your old LA100. If you were happy with your LA100, then the E100 machines may be fine for you.

But if you really want something that will last 20-years, I'd look at the upper end of the X300-series machines. Because you have several acres to mow, I'd start with something like the X380 with a 54-inch deck.
I hear what you're saying. Why is the X380 or x384 worth paying that much more money...? That's what I'm trying to understand.

The X384 looks like a great machine: https://www.deere.com/en/mowers/lawn-tractors/x300-series/x384-lawn-tractor/ Is it worth more than double the money though..? If so, why ? Seems like a lot of cash for a lawn mower. 4wd seems like a feature that would suit me well though...
 

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I hear what you're saying. Why is the X380 or x384 worth paying that much more money...? That's what I'm trying to understand.

The X384 looks like a great machine: https://www.deere.com/en/mowers/lawn-tractors/x300-series/x384-lawn-tractor/ Is it worth more than double the money though..? If so, why ? Seems like a lot of cash for a lawn mower. 4wd seems like a feature that would suit me well though...
Well, you get a much better frame and transmission for starters. The Kawasaki engines are also a better engine than the B&S engines in the E100 machines. It's still air cooled but... You also get a 4-year/300 hour warranty instead of the 2-year/120 hour warranty.

IMO, once you get to the mid-range X300 machines, you are stepping into a much better built machine. The quality of the components goes up exponentially.

I do have a question for you though. You mentioned "I don't need any of the tractor features, got that covered." Could any of the other equipment you have be setup with a mower to handle everything except the acre or so around your house? If you only rough cut the rest of it anyway maybe that's an option?
 

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Well, you get a much better frame and transmission for starters. The Kawasaki engines are also a better engine than the B&S engines in the E100 machines. It's still air cooled but... You also get a 4-year/300 hour warranty instead of the 2-year/120 hour warranty.

IMO, once you get to the mid-range X300 machines, you are stepping into a much better built machine. The quality of the components goes up exponentially.
Hmm. I don't doubt that. I would certainly hope, & expect so for the investment required.

I do have a question for you though. You mentioned "I don't need any of the tractor features, got that covered." Could any of the other equipment you have be setup with a mower to handle everything except the acre or so around your house? If you only rough cut the rest of it anyway maybe that's an option?
Yes. That is possible. I don't need the other areas of my property that get mowed, to be as "well groomed".
 

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I am so happy with my rear finish mower, I could not imagine mowing with anything else,,
on two acres,,,:dunno:

I would never consider anything Lowes sells for more than 3/4 of an acre.
 

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Well.... I'm going to go look at them today :)
 

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Made it to my local JD dealer yesterday. Have to say, they've certainly got some nice lawn mowers ! For me, the 3xx series makes the most sense as I have the tractor stuff covered.

Out of the 3xx series, the one that caught my eye was the X384. $4,999 22hp Kawasaki, 48" cut, & the biggest bonus, the 4 wheel steering. That's a pretty cool feature. If my money trees would produce a little better, it would have been a no brainer, & I would have bought one on the spot. 5 grand is a lot of coin for a lawn mower imo.

I went to Lowe's & looked at the E170. $2,399 25hp B&S, 48" cut. Employee discount - $240. Current promotion, $250 rebate. Total price: $1,910 Starting tomorrow 5/24, 0% interest, 24 mos. same as cash.

I'd love to get the X384. I just can't convince myself it's worth 2 1/2 times the money for my needs. I'm going to go pick up an E170 tomorrow. I'm pretty confident it'll do what I need it to do, & for a considerable amount of time.

We'll see what happens :)
 

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My concern is that you're used to using a high-quality, $20-$25k machine in the 1025R TLB and you're moving down to a mower from Lowe's. For the $2k, I'd just be tempted to purchase the mower deck for the 1025R and be done with it. I do understand that you're concerned with maneuverability and want an exclusive machine for mowing. I feel you'd be much happier in the long run purchasing what you really like in the x384. But, finances are always an obstacle and that's certainly understandable. I'm just thinking that the x384 would be a high-quality lawn tractor that would last you the next 20 years.

Good luck with the E170 and I hope it does everything you need it to do!
 

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I feel like you won the lottery getting 15 years of regular mowing 2 acres out of a LA100. I wouldn't expect that to happen again with a Lowe's grade John Deere mower. I can see why you would consider another after having such a good experience with it.
 

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My concern is that you're used to using a high-quality, $20-$25k machine in the 1025R TLB and you're moving down to a mower from Lowe's. For the $2k, I'd just be tempted to purchase the mower deck for the 1025R and be done with it. I do understand that you're concerned with maneuverability and want an exclusive machine for mowing. I feel you'd be much happier in the long run purchasing what you really like in the x384. But, finances are always an obstacle and that's certainly understandable. I'm just thinking that the x384 would be a high-quality lawn tractor that would last you the next 20 years.

Good luck with the E170 and I hope it does everything you need it to do!
I definitely hear ya Jay. I would LOVE to be in a position where I could afford/justify the X384. I have a feeling that it would last me the rest of my life (25-30yrs ?). I have absolutely zero doubt it's a better machine, & will out last the cheap one I'm getting from Lowe's.

In the interest of full disclosure, I hadn't planned on buying a new mower this year. If my old one didn't poop the bed, I would've rode it out till it did. Was hoping to get another year or two. Also, I literally just bought a Kawasaki Mule. As in, I picked it up Friday afternoon, & my mower literally crapped out Saturday :banghead:

If I hadn't just made the ATV purchase, I more than likely would've gone X384, & probably wouldn't have even considered the E170. Although, that's where I'm at. I ain't taking the Mule back :laugh:
 

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I feel like you won the lottery getting 15 years of regular mowing 2 acres out of a LA100. I wouldn't expect that to happen again with a Lowe's grade John Deere mower. I can see why you would consider another after having such a good experience with it.
You might be right. I think there's something to be said for taking care of equipment, keeping things greased, changing the oil regularly, & keeping the blades sharp. All of which I did pretty regular. With that said, I did beat the snot out of that mower, as did my boys & am probably as surprised as anyone it was kicking as long as it was. Now, I'm an empty nester, & will most likely be the only one to use it.
 
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