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We received our new 1025R last Friday, which meant I got to have some fun this weekend. This is all new to me. I've never owned a machine like this so there was a lot of discovery. I thought other potential buyers might like to hear my impressions (I know I would have liked to read something like this when I was kicking tires).

So here's the new addition:

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1025R with H-120 Front End Loader (FEL), 60" Mid Mount Mower Deck (MMM), Ballast Box and (not shown) 54" Snow Blower Attachment. The tractor arrived Friday night around 4:00 pm. We were having dinner guests, so that didn't leave a lot of time to play. I spent an hour playing, then put it where you see it there, next to the wife's car.

Saturday morning after some family duties (made breakfast for my son and is guests), I made my way down stairs to play. I decided to take the side cover off to explore the PTO switch. I had already ordered the LVA11189 switch and was wondering how hard or easy it would be to install it. The next thing I knew, the wife is saying, "What did you do...? We haven't had the thing one day and it's all apart..!" Uh yeah, one thing lead to another. Before I knew it, I had the thing in pieces. Side panels, steering wheel, center console, it was all out. That PTO switch is NOT easy to access, so I removed the whole panel. That gave me the opportunity to do a really nice job. I stripped the red and orange wires in the harness under the loom, soldered two wires, taped and replaced the loom. I made a nice new loomed harness to run to my switch. Now I'm sorry I didn't take any pictures. It came our really nice. Factory clean with only this visible.

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Those with an observant eye will notice that while I had that panel off, I also added a 1 axis waterproof joystick switch below the turn signal switch. At this time it does nothing. It will later later be used to control the Chute Actuator on my Snow Blower attachment. More on this another time.

After my tampering, I decided to drop the FEL and Ballast Box to try the MMM. The grass was a little long, but probably done growing for the year. I'm coming from a 24 horsepower Cub Cadet riding lawn tractor. Right away I noticed that the 1025R feels like a luxury ride in comparison to the Cub Cadet. The suspension seat, the rock solid feel, the power steering and even the engine sound. The 1025 is like a tank. I think it's actually quieter than the gas powered v-twin Kohler in the CC, and it's all together different.

My property has many hills, which is good. I learned to negotiate them on the CC and I was worried that the higher heavier JD would feel less stable. It did not. In fact, I think it may feel more stable. I will need more time with it. I'm still learning what I can and can't get away with there and I will proceed with extreme caution. The first hill I climbed, up onto our front yard, the JD climbed effortlessly. I didn't need 4WD or differential lock. It did just find without. But... My mower deck, set to medium, completely scalped the lawn. It appears it hasn't been set up correctly. I moved it to the highest usable setting, and even there it scalped the grass in a few places. I'm not going to hold this against it. I realize it's part bad setup and part learning curve.

The next day, I saw my neighbor shoveling mulch into his wheel barrel. I went right over and offered my help. He had a good 3 cubic yards to move. This gave me a chance to play with the FEL.

Here are some of the lessons I learned in my first weekend:
  • This thing can climb and descend up and down some serious slopes with ease.
  • If you try to climb a hill in 2wd and you spin a tire, it's going to do some serious damage to the grass. Use 4wd when in doubt.
  • You can get away with wide turns in 4wd without turf damage, but tight turns, uh yeah... Not so good.
  • This machine will roll down hills even if you let off of the hydro stat pedals. Unlike my CC, the brake pedal is a necessity. This is especially true when in High Range. In Low Range, the brake is much less necessary.
  • The FEL control can be very sensitive. It's going to take time to get a feel for it. I suddenly have huge respect for machine operators who make it look so easy. I look forward to developing that skill.
  • The iMatch is a must have option. I've taken the Ballast Box off and on a bunch of times, and although it's not a huge pain in the neck, it's not simple. (I actually ordered my machine with an iMatch, it just hasn't come in yet and I told them to deliver the tractor without it. I can handle the install when it comes in.)
  • When I was researching, I saw a video touting the benefits of the "Polymer" hood against the metal hood of the competitors. I didn't pay any attention to it or place any value in it. Well, while shaking the bucket to drop some mulch out of the over full bucket, some mulch dropped back onto the hood. No big deal, but if I was moving gravel, that would have been a different story. I can now see the value in the plastic hood.
  • While shopping, I wondered if the Tilt Steering wheel on the R was really a big deal over the fixed wheel on the E. I test drove the E and it felt really good. But, I've come to learn that the tilt wheel is really very nice for clearing the way to get on and off the tractor.
Those are some of my first impressions and lessons. There is so much more to learn and I look forward to discovering more about the machine. My only big regret right now is that I bough it so late in the season. Summer is over and winter is coming... We will do most of our learning with the Snow Blower.

Here's a short shot of the wife taking her first ride on the new addition....

 

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What a fantastic post. :thumbup1gif:

Thank you!
 

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Apologies if I missed it somewhere but what was the reason for having to replace the PTO switch on a new tractor?
 

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Nice looking tractor. How do ypu keep your garage so clean?? Great post if you need to set up mower there are several threads here to do it. I was fortunate mine was set up great. good luck enjoy it:bigthumb:
 

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Apologies if I missed it somewhere but what was the reason for having to replace the PTO switch on a new tractor?
The new 1025Rs come with an RIO (Reverse Implement Option) safety. With this safety, if you press the "Reverse" pedal while the Mid PTO is on, the tractor shuts right down unless you first pull and hold the PTO switch up before backing up. I'm all for safety, but this is going to be a major pain in the neck with the Snow Blower on there. So I installed a factory switch that will allow us to disable the safety at will. Pop the switch the other way and the RIO safety is back.
 

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Looks like ya'll are still young, that's a good thing. This machine will save BOTH of you from many a laborious task, allowing your backs and knees to enjoy life a lot longer.
Congrats on the purchase. :thumbup1gif:
 

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The new 1025Rs come with an RIO (Reverse Implement Option) safety. With this safety, if you press the "Reverse" pedal while the Mid PTO is on, the tractor shuts right down unless you first pull and hold the PTO switch up before backing up. I'm all for safety, but this is going to be a major pain in the neck with the Snow Blower on there. So I installed a factory switch that will allow us to disable the safety at will. Pop the switch the other way and the RIO safety is back.
Ah yes... very familiar with it. I had it jumpered out on my X500 rider after the 1st mow session. No need to ever re-enable it.BTW... I thought the front-mount snow blowers had some kind of sensor when installed on the 1-series to disable the RIO?
 

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I thought so too. There is a hall affect sensor. When I tested my new setup the engine stopped as soon as I hit the back pedal. I asked them about it, thinking the sensor was suppose to let the system know it's a front PTO. They told me that the sensor is just used to display the PTO speed in the cluster.
 

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I thought so too. There is a hall affect sensor. When I tested my new setup the engine stopped as soon as I hit the back pedal. I asked them about it, thinking the sensor was suppose to let the system know it's a front PTO. They told me that the sensor is just used to display the PTO speed in the cluster.
Mine did the same thing at first. You have to adjust it closer and then it will work. Of course, bypassing for mowing too is the best of both worlds.
 

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Great post, thanks!

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Very nice, Congratulations! :bigthumb:
I like the write up of your experience.
 

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Great post. Enjoy your new rig. You're ready for all four seasons now.

Happy Tractoring! :greentractorride:
 

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Haha, I think we need to talk more, I also had a good part of the tractor ripped apart shortly after delivery. I like the video. My wife had some serious anxiety at first about the machine. We went from a small L110 w/ 42" deck to a 1025R with 60" deck, FEL, and 54" snowblower. I didn't opt for the ballast box though I plan to build one next year. I've got the wheel weights and the iMatch hitch. Most of the time I keep the tractor in 4x4. I have some slopes on my yard that require 4x4 and one spot that you should have ROPS and seat belt on to mow.

I saw some mods to remove the reverse kill. Everything I've seen overrides it completely (permanently). I was considering a switch to enable or disable the safety feature on demand.

I want to know more about your chute control. I was just looking at the JD part for it last night but was put by the $203 price tag.
 

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Haha, I think we need to talk more, I also had a good part of the tractor ripped apart shortly after delivery. I like the video. My wife had some serious anxiety at first about the machine. We went from a small L110 w/ 42" deck to a 1025R with 60" deck, FEL, and 54" snowblower. I didn't opt for the ballast box though I plan to build one next year. I've got the wheel weights and the iMatch hitch. Most of the time I keep the tractor in 4x4. I have some slopes on my yard that require 4x4 and one spot that you should have ROPS and seat belt on to mow.

I saw some mods to remove the reverse kill. Everything I've seen overrides it completely (permanently). I was considering a switch to enable or disable the safety feature on demand.

I want to know more about your chute control. I was just looking at the JD part for it last night but was put by the $203 price tag.
I don't think the route I took would save you much if any money. I've spent about $170 so far and have a little ways to go to finish up. I'm definitely not the first to blaze this trail. There are lots of folks here who have done this. I learned that Firgelli Automation sells linear actuators in many different varieties. I went with the Premium Actuator because it had better water and corrosion resistance. I picked the FA-35-12-4"-P ($140 with shipping). That actuator has 4" of travel and 35 lbs. of force.

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Coincidentally it's stroke and dimensions perfectly fit the holes pre-drilled into the chute for the factory cable setup (no drilling). I just needed to spend 15 minutes at the hardware store finding and collecting stainless steel hardware to mount it (Two 2" 1/4" x 20 Allen Screws, Four Stainless Nuts, Two 3/4" spacers).

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To control the actuator, I've seen a number of different solutions. Most of them use a rocker switch. I'm not entirely crazy about using a rocker switch because I don't imagine it will be easy to use with thick gloves on. I also don't expect a rocker switch to be completely resistant to water. So I did some digging and found this:

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That's a single axis joystick switch (~$20). The stick is about 3" high and the travel is about 1.5" forward, 1.5" back. It's totally water proof, heavy duty, looks like it belongs on a tractor and will be easy to use with big thick winter gloves. I placed it on the dash board, beneath the turn signal switch where it will be easy to reach with the left hand, even it on the steering wheel.

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I couldn't center it under the switch because it would hit the tilt steering release, so I lined it up with the outer edge of the TS switch. It looks good and everything works. Wiring it will not be basic. The switch has two SPST switches so I will use two SPDT relays to make a reversing DPDT relay. This happens to be my area of expertise. I'll share those details later. I haven't put them in yet. I just ran the wire from the switch to the fuse box area where I will later (probably this weekend) wire up the relays.

Here's the actuator in action (powered by my 12V drill battery):


I also bought water proof connectors ($6) and some weatherproof super flexible 2 conductor 16 AWG cord for the chute and 3 conductor 18 AWG cord for the joystick ($20). I'll need two Bosch relays but I have dozens on hand. So, I guess this project, as I've done it, would cost about $200. But I think this will be superior to the cable setup for a couple of reasons, including:

  1. Should provide more precise control of the chute
  2. Will be easier to detact the blower from the tractor (1 plug by the hydraulic lines)
  3. Will leave me with a control on the tractor that I can use for other things, (My imagination is spinning).
  4. Can control the chute in both Axis with a hand on the steering wheel
 

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The new 1025Rs come with an RIO (Reverse Implement Option) safety. With this safety, if you press the "Reverse" pedal while the Mid PTO is on, the tractor shuts right down unless you first pull and hold the PTO switch up before backing up. I'm all for safety, but this is going to be a major pain in the neck with the Snow Blower on there. So I installed a factory switch that will allow us to disable the safety at will. Pop the switch the other way and the RIO safety is back.
This is what John Deere should do in the first place. I have a CC and I have a similar option to enable/diasable the RIO on it from the factory with the turn of the key and a push button.

Enjoy your new tractor. :good2:
 

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We received our new 1025R last Friday, which meant I got to have some fun this weekend. This is all new to me. I've never owned a machine like this so there was a lot of discovery. I thought other potential buyers might like to hear my impressions (I know I would have liked to read something like this when I was kicking tires).

So here's the new addition:

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1025R with H-120 Front End Loader (FEL), 60" Mid Mount Mower Deck (MMM), Ballast Box and (not shown) 54" Snow Blower Attachment. The tractor arrived Friday night around 4:00 pm. We were having dinner guests, so that didn't leave a lot of time to play. I spent an hour playing, then put it where you see it there, next to the wife's car.

Saturday morning after some family duties (made breakfast for my son and is guests), I made my way down stairs to play. I decided to take the side cover off to explore the PTO switch. I had already ordered the LVA11189 switch and was wondering how hard or easy it would be to install it. The next thing I knew, the wife is saying, "What did you do...? We haven't had the thing one day and it's all apart..!" Uh yeah, one thing lead to another. Before I knew it, I had the thing in pieces. Side panels, steering wheel, center console, it was all out. That PTO switch is NOT easy to access, so I removed the whole panel. That gave me the opportunity to do a really nice job. I stripped the red and orange wires in the harness under the loom, soldered two wires, taped and replaced the loom. I made a nice new loomed harness to run to my switch. Now I'm sorry I didn't take any pictures. It came our really nice. Factory clean with only this visible.

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Those with an observant eye will notice that while I had that panel off, I also added a 1 axis waterproof joystick switch below the turn signal switch. At this time it does nothing. It will later later be used to control the Chute Actuator on my Snow Blower attachment. More on this another time.

After my tampering, I decided to drop the FEL and Ballast Box to try the MMM. The grass was a little long, but probably done growing for the year. I'm coming from a 24 horsepower Cub Cadet riding lawn tractor. Right away I noticed that the 1025R feels like a luxury ride in comparison to the Cub Cadet. The suspension seat, the rock solid feel, the power steering and even the engine sound. The 1025 is like a tank. I think it's actually quieter than the gas powered v-twin Kohler in the CC, and it's all together different.

My property has many hills, which is good. I learned to negotiate them on the CC and I was worried that the higher heavier JD would feel less stable. It did not. In fact, I think it may feel more stable. I will need more time with it. I'm still learning what I can and can't get away with there and I will proceed with extreme caution. The first hill I climbed, up onto our front yard, the JD climbed effortlessly. I didn't need 4WD or differential lock. It did just find without. But... My mower deck, set to medium, completely scalped the lawn. It appears it hasn't been set up correctly. I moved it to the highest usable setting, and even there it scalped the grass in a few places. I'm not going to hold this against it. I realize it's part bad setup and part learning curve.

The next day, I saw my neighbor shoveling mulch into his wheel barrel. I went right over and offered my help. He had a good 3 cubic yards to move. This gave me a chance to play with the FEL.

Here are some of the lessons I learned in my first weekend:
  • This thing can climb and descend up and down some serious slopes with ease.
  • If you try to climb a hill in 2wd and you spin a tire, it's going to do some serious damage to the grass. Use 4wd when in doubt.
  • You can get away with wide turns in 4wd without turf damage, but tight turns, uh yeah... Not so good.
  • This machine will roll down hills even if you let off of the hydro stat pedals. Unlike my CC, the brake pedal is a necessity. This is especially true when in High Range. In Low Range, the brake is much less necessary.
  • The FEL control can be very sensitive. It's going to take time to get a feel for it. I suddenly have huge respect for machine operators who make it look so easy. I look forward to developing that skill.
  • The iMatch is a must have option. I've taken the Ballast Box off and on a bunch of times, and although it's not a huge pain in the neck, it's not simple. (I actually ordered my machine with an iMatch, it just hasn't come in yet and I told them to deliver the tractor without it. I can handle the install when it comes in.)
  • When I was researching, I saw a video touting the benefits of the "Polymer" hood against the metal hood of the competitors. I didn't pay any attention to it or place any value in it. Well, while shaking the bucket to drop some mulch out of the over full bucket, some mulch dropped back onto the hood. No big deal, but if I was moving gravel, that would have been a different story. I can now see the value in the plastic hood.
  • While shopping, I wondered if the Tilt Steering wheel on the R was really a big deal over the fixed wheel on the E. I test drove the E and it felt really good. But, I've come to learn that the tilt wheel is really very nice for clearing the way to get on and off the tractor.
Those are some of my first impressions and lessons. There is so much more to learn and I look forward to discovering more about the machine. My only big regret right now is that I bough it so late in the season. Summer is over and winter is coming... We will do most of our learning with the Snow Blower.

Here's a short shot of the wife taking her first ride on the new addition....

G-life: Excellent post, welcome to the GTT life.

Once you get a better feel for the machine and its capabilities, if you're like me you'll spend much time day dreaming about the next project or 10. Slow, steady steps are best and are my recommendation. I wish you much success and satisfaction each time that you mount and dismount that shiny green beauty.

Brian
 
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