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Ordering a 2025R... judge me (Questions).

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Hey all, after MANY years of wanting a property where I could have a tractor (yes, this was a life goal :) ) we're finally building a house on a 5 acre field and I have a "need" for one. There are going to be a lot of jobs on the property, including seeding a lawn, dealing with fallen trees, moving top soil and crushed rock, maintaining a 400ft gravel driveway, planting a garden (well tilling for one anyway), moving smoker and fire wood, landscaping (putting in stone, gardens, other things I'd like to do myself), removing snow from aforementioned driveway, etc. Basically anything that needs to be moved, placed, maintained. It's a long lot, over 1000ft deep, so I won't be moving things around easily with just a wheelbarrow and a shovel.

I am not buying it to mow however. A mower deck costs the same as a 3 series zero turn, and a zero turn will apparently do a much better job, much faster, and will be easier to deal with. Just doesn't make sense for me.

I also don't feel I need a backhoe. Let me rephrase, I don't feel I need a backhoe for $9000 CDN. That is likely a lot of mini excavator rentals (which is apparently better anyway), and everything I need trenched is already trenched. I may be building a shed with a power run, or a water line out to a garden, but I can do that with a rental. And 1/3 of that $9000 will buy me a nice trailer. The dealer actually told me not to get it because it's too expensive. I was surprised by that, but he's not wrong.

I decided to go with a 2025R for several reasons: Weight, ground clearance, tire size, price, and driving position. Comparing with the 1025R I am just happier with it. The controls sit higher up in the 2025R which to me gives it a more engaging feel. The tire size is much larger which will no doubt make for better traction, and add weight when filled. Not a huge difference in ground clearance but not insignificant either. Finally, the price difference between the two is a few grand. For me, this makes it a no brainer.

I considered a 2032R but the price difference is huge. It also may be a lot more than I need. The added loader capacity might be nice but at what cost. I am still considering it though.

When building the tractor, I found all of the possible options on the tractor a bit confusing on the web site, and I didn't know what some were. I felt like I could be missing things. For example, I selected wheel weights but didn't add the mounting hardware because, in my mind, why would you not include the hardware you need to mount the weights when you sell the weights?? But this is the high level sheet I put together for what I mostly know from my enormous number of searches on this forum.


TractorCommentsOption Code
2025R This part is important
iMatch Quick Hitch Cat 1Adjustable top hook (because adjustable seems like a good idea)LVB25976
Factory Installed Loader with Bucket120R w/MSL
1701​
Tires FilledFill rear tires w/liquid?
Rear Wheel Weight, 60 lb (27.2 kg)Weight!BM17965
Attaching Hardware for Rear Wheel Weight, 60 lbObviouslyBM17987
Ballast BoxFilled with concreteBW15073
3rd SCV or MidBig question here, do I need more hydro??
Premium LED Work Light KitI could see this being useful and I like lightBLV10673
Engine Coolant Heater KitBecause CanadaBLV10640
Engine Block Heater AdapterBecause CanadaAM134805
Auto-Throttle KitDo I want this?BLV10784
3-Point Hitch Tractor Receiver HitchLikely useful for a trailer…LP25001
Attachments
Loader ForksAP10F vs 11F? 42" seems like a good idea
TillerFor tilling. This one has gears, 6 tines, etc. Can't buy King Kutter in Canada, going with Frontier I guessRT3049
SnowblowerNot plowing, I live in the snow beltSB1154
SpreaderSS20B iMatch w/agitator. This is an option... but I feel it will be very useful. Unless there's another, cheaper option for spreading seed, fertilizer, and other things across 2 acres of grass?SS2067B
Box BladeWill be very handy for the driveway, land, garden?BB5060

I am trying to roll as much into the 0% finance as possible so I am adding whatever I can now that's reasonable. I am not looking to light money on fire, but if it makes sense I'd do it.

I have sent this to the dealer to get a quote, and to review, but I have some questions:

1) Is there anything I am missing or given my use case I might want? There's so many little options on the web site I feel I might miss something.

2) I considered the 2032R... as I am not mowing, it's an option. But my god is it expensive! And might be more than I really need. Any thoughts on this? Is this a "no you dont need anything like that for 5 acres" or "yeah considering what you're planning to do and without mowing, if you can swing it, do it".

3) Do I need more hydraulics? The 3rd SCV option is there but it's almost $1000. What do people use it for? If I got a grapple, depending on price, honestly I'd probably just get an electric one. How hard are they to install on your own afterwards?

4) What is the consensus on the auto throttle kit? Any downsides?

Anyway, I am really excited to get this tractor, expected delivery is allegedly around July but who knows. We take possession of the house July 20th and I won't realistically need this until Sept. which is when I want to seed some of the lawn. If I get it early I will probably use it to drive around my driveway, just because :) I'll probably have to clean up builder mess as well.

-J
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If you are getting it for snow removal then the MORE lights you have the better. Cause it is always dark when you need to remove snow. I have the Premium Light kit on my 2038R and it works great, I will be adding a another rear light cause I want all 4 of the lights pointed forward which leave only the small hitch light for the rear and is not really enough.

I would get filled tires, you did not mention the type of tire but dont get R4. I have the R3+ (radial) on my 2038R and they did great snow blowing up some pretty steep hills. They also work well in the woods and shed the mud pretty quickly.
I was just about to say, with the tasks you have listed you will want FORKS
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Not sure if rear hydraulics are an option on the 2025R but if you are doing box blade work having a Top and Tilt hydraulics makes it so much easier. And getting the rear SCV from the factory is a good bit easier than doing it after the fact.
Power beyond is used for backhoe and a log splitter or similar implement. Note any log splitter used on a 2025r will be painfully slow just not enough flow. You could also use the PB with an addon rear hydraulic like what Tractor Time with Tim has been showing off lately, so might want to review that.

My first use of the Light package on my tractor was an early morning emergency tree clearing exercise. Wife goes into to work at 5am and one morning an overnight storm knocked down 4 trees blocking the driveway. Having the tractor with all its lights on the work surface while I cut it up was awesome and that alone sold me on the lights even before I used them for snow removal.
Oh also a hdyro top link makes hooking up with a quick hitch even easier, not that it is a requirement for it and not a reason to get it on its own but is a nice added bonus.
You wont see an option from Deere for a hydro top link, but you need rear SCV (hydraulics) to use an rear hydro top link, you can get the top link from other 3rd party sites.
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I have a front mount blower and i like it, however one PRO for a rear mount besides cost is you can keep the FEL on and i suspect a rear mount with a quick hitch is easier to swap out than a front mount.

While taking the FEL on and off is easy, I can not get the front mount blower on and off with gloves on and doing that in sub-zero weather is not exactly fun which means the blower stays on all winter. Would i replace it with a rear mount no, with a 1/4 mile driveway and another 1/4 mile to the main road doing that in reverse does not sound like fun. But if I had a shorter amount the rear mount would maybe be worth it.
The sb1154 is a rear mount blower I believe. I was never a huge fan of looking over my shoulder while blowing. I know the front blower carries a premium, but I’d recommend it over rear-facing.
Also, have you considered the Mauser cab, especially if your not doing the backhoe, it may be worth it based on your windchill.
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Make sure when you are looking at the MSL vs NSL you are looking at the right one for the tractor. The 2025 uses the 120 FEL and the reviews of the MSL have been pretty bad, but the one on the 2038 is the 220 FEL and its reviews have been rather good.

Really the 120 FEL on the 2025 is the 2025 biggest weakness.

The BB2060 I think weighs in at about 500# and you can throw 4x 42# weights on it getting you to 668# and add the quick hitch at 70# you are up to 738#, not all the weigh to the requirement but pretty good for doing light work. Probably would not haul stone like that, but dirt sure.
So I love the auto-throttle on the 2038R, however not sure I would like the way it is implemented on the 2025 or 1025 as much because on those you can not disable it. From a safety standpoint being able to disable it is important to me. I disable it on my 2038 whenever I am in close quarters or near a ledge so that the speed of the tractor is easier and more predicatable to control.

NOTE: never used the mechanical auto throttle on the lower models so not sure how it feels just know you can not disable it like you can on the larger 2 series.
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Also if MSL is be considered because you are unsure of small children running too close, that is not the safety feature. So many other dangers of a small child running around a tractor that are not resolved by an MSL.
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