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Now that I have a few months and hours on the seat of the 2520 I would like to give my thoughts and comparisons of both tractors.

First the 2320, a very good tractor that I had for 5 years and 350+ hours. I used the 62D MMM and it would be about the max mower I think it could handle as mid-mount because the 62D would draw it down 1000+ rpm's if you hit some thicker grass but the mower cut pretty good. I personally think that the tractor could have run a larger mower if it was a rear 540 mower. I say that because the 647 tiller I used in thick soil didn't even grunt the tractor and the lower rpm 540 verses 2100 gives the tractor a stronger feel. The 62D mower I thought would collect a lot of clipping under the mower. The 200CX w/61" bucket, was a nice loader for the tractor and there was a thread where a member was moving an old stump and the 2320 moved one just like it (BIG). Moving snow of dirt the tractor would work all day but I always felt a little under powered if I was doing any of this work in high range. Moving gravel or snow up the driveway in high would cause a drop of about 1000 rpm's. I would also say that the hydraulics for the loader are somewhat slow especially if you are moving and steering while using the loader. This is where the single pump showed its limits. Overall I enjoyed every hour on the tractor.

The 2520, although it might not seem like a big step up, sure gives the impression that it is. First thing I noticed was the sound of the direct injected engine :thumbup1gif:. I ordered this tractor with a 72" MMM and 72" bucket for the loader. First the MMM, this thing cuts better, I think, than the 62D and there certainly is less clippings that stick to the underside of the deck. This mower goes through the same thick grass and I hardly know it was there as the rpm's may fluctuate by 100-200 versus the 1000 of the 2320. This shows me that there is substantially more torque and hp to quickly recover. Now since I went with raised planter beds I no longer needed the tiller so I used the money for a 5' brush cutter. Running this is quite impressive. The 2520 seems to really like cutting brush and it certainly can handle the 5' with ease. If I wasn't concerned with weight I bet I could run a 6' cutter, but that being said at ~500lbs the current brush cutter isn't noticeable on the back. Loader work with a 72" bucket requires your attention due to the size compared to the tractor width. But for me moving rock, dirt and now snow it sure saves me some time. The first snow I felt I was hardly outside as the increased width made quicker work of moving the snow and that is why I bought the larger bucket. Running the 2520 in high, with MMM, loader and brush cutter I can still jump right up the drive with minimal rpm loss. Now moving snow I can lose some rpm's pushing snow up the drive but I think some of this is because I do not run much over 2000 rpm.

One thing I found is that for winter work the 2320 (R4's) did the job and I never had traction problems that got in my way. With the 2520 same R4's (only 1 snow so far) I am wondering if I am going to have issues as I was losing traction quite a bit and time will tell as it might have been just the snow type. But this is the first time chains even popped into my head. With my 2320 I cheated and put my front weights on the front during the winter to help with steering and that was a noticeable addition. The 2520 I cannot put weights on the front right now because the front frame is shorter and the loader kick-stand is in the way of the front weights and I feel like I am back on the 2320 with no weights and having to brake steer a lot more.
 

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Hi pcabe5
Nice comparison write-up.
Because these two models are so close (capabilities) you wouldn't think there would be much of a difference, but obviously there is.

First the MMM, this thing cuts better, I think, than the 62D and there certainly is less clippings that stick to the underside of the deck.
I think if you would have had this deck on your 2520,you would have changed your mind about it. IMO,if I used a 72" to compare with my 62,I doubt I would see any difference other than the cut width. For its size the 2520 is an awesome grass cutter.:good2:

With the 2520 same R4's (only 1 snow so far) I am wondering if I am going to have issues as I was losing traction quite a bit and time will tell as it might have been just the snow type. But this is the first time chains even popped into my head.
I ended up getting them (chains) after the first winter with my 2520. I too was losing traction quite a bit. I went with the 4 link V-bar,and the difference in traction is unbelieveable!

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Hi pcabe5

I think if you would have had this deck on your 2520,you would have changed your mind about it. IMO,if I used a 72" to compare with my 62,I doubt I would see any difference other than the cut width. For its size the 2520 is an awesome grass cutter.:good2:

Not sure if it was because the 62D was on the 2320 and not the 2520 but a comparison of clippings that stuck to the underside of each was substantial. I used to take two 5 gallon buckets of clippings out from underneath the 2320/62D and I can barely get a half a 5 gallon bucket out of the 2520/72". Another difference can be seen in the discharge that comes out as the 72" has greater speed at which clippings are thrown even though it has a slower tip speed. Both cut good but in my experience with both the 72" cuts even better. Now this isn't a knock on the 62D as it worked well for me for 5 years and I hope the 72" is as dependable and trouble free as the 62D was.


I ended up getting them (chains) after the first winter with my 2520. I too was losing traction quite a bit. I went with the 4 link V-bar,and the difference in traction is unbelieveable
I have looked at tirechains.com and will be prepared if I continue to have issues. I think even though the 2520 has wider tires to compensate for the extra torque they are not enough on packed snow. Plus R4's are never known for having flexible tread/sidewalls. I sometimes wish the would make the R4's in a 4 ply.
 

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One thing I left out was hydraulics. The 2320 hydraulics were just fine but the 2520 volume of dual pumps make loader work faster.

Now in a world of time constraints, the larger MMM, larger bucket, more power and faster hydraulics I get things done quicker. With that said, I have put on just about 1/3rd of the hours of the 2320 on the new 2520 in 1/5th of the time. I must be finding more things to do!:)
 

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pcabe5...Great write up.

We too moved up from the 2320; a 2007 model w/ approx 300 hours to a new 2520 that was delivered in July of this year. Whereas we do not run the PTO implements like you (mower and tiller) I have noticed some of the same findings as you: quieter running engine, faster hydraulics (which I really appreciate as we do a lot of work with the FEL), and less drop in RPM's in high gear when going up our driveway with mulch or dirt in the bucket. From an appearance standpoint, the first thing neighbors and friends notice are the larger rear tires.

Some additional findings which are not overly negative but just differences we observed:
* Increased height in the 3pt hitch. What I mean by that, is the 3 pt arms come up higher (and do not go down as far) than what I observed on the 2320. In fact, with the PHD mounted, I cannot raise it to quite it's highest position. It also created a bit of a problem if I want to remove my Heavy Hitch as the stand isn't quite tall enough to allow for the i-Match to slip out. But no further worries there as, Heavy Hitch made me stand a bit taller.
* No enlcosed plastic shield behind the seat. With the 2320, I use to throw my gloves, sunflower seeds and a couple of tools behind there. The 2520 does not allow for this but that was solved with just adding a toolbox.
* And lastly, the location of the 4WD lever. I actually like its location better and think it makes more sense than the 2320, as that lever could (and I have read of those that have) be engaged using the heel of your foot.

I recognize there are additional differences such as larger turning radius and larger fuel capacity but I haven't noticed these. I would have to say, the biggest difference and improvement we have seen to date is the increased speed with the FEL (hydraulics).
 

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pcabe5...Great write up.
* And lastly, the location of the 4WD lever. I actually like its location better and think it makes more sense than the 2320, as that lever could (and I have read of those that have) be engaged using the heel of your foot.
The JD manual says not to use your foot, but that is just CYA instruction. If you use your foot, gently easy it in and don't mash it. It is also easy to disengage with your foot too.
 
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