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Good morning All,

I love my 2015 1025R until it comes to the PTO switch and having to pull up on it to back up while mowing. Has anyone come up with a work around for this? Even when I know I have to pull the switch up I still manage to cut the PTO off with reverse.

Other than that the tractor is great!

Thank you in advance,

Paul
 

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Paul, there’s a bunch of RIO threads here. A quick search will turn up a bunch of good reading. :good2:
 

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Yep, plan to keep my 1026R for a long time because it doesn’t have this new and improved safety feature.
 

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ejb,

Thanks i'll do a quick search. I never have much luck with them :).


Diesel,

when I Mow I think to myself. I can't imagine brush hogging, or doing anything that consist of running a PTO and constantly backing up. Not sure how I managed on my 2N lol.
 

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ejb,

Thanks i'll do a quick search. I never have much luck with them :).


Diesel,

when I Mow I think to myself. I can't imagine brush hogging, or doing anything that consist of running a PTO and constantly backing up. Not sure how I managed on my 2N lol.
It helps when you know what to look for. :good2: Anything around disabling the RIO on a 1025 should guide you in the right direction.
 

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The Reverse Implementation Operation (RIO) is what I think you referred to when you mentioned PTO in your post.

The RIO switch is mounted on the dash and the PTO control is to the left under the seat.

The RIO switch has a really strong love hare relationship on this forum.

I will not disengage (remove) my RIO because I think it is a great safety feature for when I use my roto tiller . . . there is a blind spot behind the tractor . . . so I would prefer to be safe and not sorry.

I can see why people who are mowing their lawn are not in love with the RIO; especially if they back up a lot.

Good luck with your decision.
 

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One of the very first "improvements" I did on my 1025 was to disable that PIA reverse switch …
I disabled my switch with a zip-tie under the seat. Easy to do, and no wires to cut …

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RIO fix

I tried the zip-tie "fix", but it kept falling off the switch. I'm using the clothes-pin fix now. Get one of the pinch-type clothes pins. After you increase the idle, pull the PTO button out so the mower engages. Pull up on the PTO switch hold it up as you press on the reverse pedal. As you are backing up, insert the clothes pin under the button. This disengages the safety switch. After that, you'll be good. I have many, many (30 some trees I think) things to mow around and had to find something other than remembering to pull the button out each time I went into reverse.
 

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The Reverse Implementation Operation (RIO) is what I think you referred to when you mentioned PTO in your post.

The RIO switch is mounted on the dash and the PTO control is to the left under the seat.

The RIO switch has a really strong love hare relationship on this forum.

I will not disengage (remove) my RIO because I think it is a great safety feature for when I use my roto tiller . . . there is a blind spot behind the tractor . . . so I would prefer to be safe and not sorry.

I can see why people who are mowing their lawn are not in love with the RIO; especially if they back up a lot.

Good luck with your decision.
Dealing with it while mowing is bad. Dealing with it while using a front mounted blower is straight up torture. I back up a lot more running the blower than I ever do with the mower, then add in thick gloves and being bundled up to prevent turning into a icicle when the snow blows back on you. Now the RIO is very hard to operate the way intended. In my case the backup switch failed, no way I was going to spend $40 or so fixing a switch I couldn't stand. So I bypassed it.

I do see the value in other stuff like the seat switch.
 

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Check out post #8 in this thread:
2015 1025R RIO Bypass PTO switch access

I did this and it works perfectly. The only downside is that when you are running the midmount PTO the dashboard still reports on the rear, but that is no big thing.

Ray_PA did a great job of writing this up, including links to a part on amazon to make it super clean.
 

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Thanks for clarifying what the RIO switch stood for. I couldn't figure it out :lol: I called it the PTO switch, because you pull up on the thing and the PTO comes on. I can see a bypass of the RIO in the near future.
 

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the best fix, in my opinion, is the jumper wire on the back of the switch, if you can access it. then your pto rpm readout even works correctly. This was what i did after 10 minutes of attempting to cut my lawn
 

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If you don't want to bypass it, you can pull up on the PTO (RIO, whatever...) switch and clip a clothespin under it when in use. That will hold it up enough to basically trick it into thinking you're pulling up on it all the time.

Edit- Oops, didn't read through very good. I see ultraclassic12 already suggested this. I second his idea then...

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