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In my quest to reduce the jungle around here as easily as possible, and continue to demonstrate to the Missus what a good idea this new tractor was, I’ve been looking at tooth bars. I suspect I’ll be doing more ripping up of vegetation than actual digging, although there may be some of that.

Are these two even comparable? I’ve been searching the board but not finding a lot. I’m not always the most gifted searcher though. So, opinions please. It will have to be one or the other. Both ain’t gonna cut it (so to speak). :hide:
 

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Here's a link you might find helpful, comparing the piranha and ratchet.

Piranha tooth bar vs Ratchet Rake Comparison

I didn't know the ratchet rake was so expensive, or that it involved so many parts to monkey with to install it. Basically the same price as the piranha bar, if not more. If it were me, I'd go with the tried and true Piranha bar. Just bolt and go.
 

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I have a Ratchet Rake but I can't compare it to the Piranha bar. I can say that the RR isn't for digging. If you want to scoop out some dirt, say..for a patio and slice through roots and all, I think the Piranha would be perfect. I had a bunch of brush...trees (sumac) with broad shallow root systems as well as a bunch of berry bushes and vines, that I wanted cleared out. I also had several spruces that came out with the central trunk ground, but I need to pull out the feeder roots. I didn't want to dig in and take them out dirt and all...I just wanted to rip the roots out. I also wanted to aggressively rake through the remaining dirt and pull out all the wood chips from the grinding as mulch, but leave the actual dirt, leaving it nicely tossed and furrowed and ready to toss in some grass seed. Man...the Ratchet Rake was perfect for all of those tasks. I have grass growing like crazy right now.

Attaching the RR and cinching it down is no big deal. Just slip the bar onto the lip of the bucket and toss the ratchet straps over the top. Takes about 2 minutes.

At some point this fall or in the spring, I'm planning on digging out about a foot of dirt for a 15x15 patio and fire pit. I plan on getting a Piranha bar for that cuz I don't see how it's gonna happen with the Ratchet Rake.
 

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Here's a link you might find helpful, comparing the piranha and ratchet.

Piranha tooth bar vs Ratchet Rake Comparison

I didn't know the ratchet rake was so expensive, or that it involved so many parts to monkey with to install it. Basically the same price as the piranha bar, if not more. If it were me, I'd go with the tried and true Piranha bar. Just bolt and go.
Thanks! This is what I was looking for. I plan to do more brush removal than digging.

I have a Ratchet Rake but I can't compare it to the Piranha bar. I can say that the RR isn't for digging. If you want to scoop out some dirt, say..for a patio and slice through roots and all, I think the Piranha would be perfect. I had a bunch of brush...trees (sumac) with broad shallow root systems as well as a bunch of berry bushes and vines, that I wanted cleared out. I also had several spruces that came out with the central trunk ground, but I need to pull out the feeder roots. I didn't want to dig in and take them out dirt and all...I just wanted to rip the roots out. I also wanted to aggressively rake through the remaining dirt and pull out all the wood chips from the grinding as mulch, but leave the actual dirt, leaving it nicely tossed and furrowed and ready to toss in some grass seed. Man...the Ratchet Rake was perfect for all of those tasks. I have grass growing like crazy right now.

Attaching the RR and cinching it down is no big deal. Just slip the bar onto the lip of the bucket and toss the ratchet straps over the top. Takes about 2 minutes.

At some point this fall or in the spring, I'm planning on digging out about a foot of dirt for a 15x15 patio and fire pit. I plan on getting a Piranha bar for that cuz I don't see how it's gonna happen with the Ratchet Rake.
This sounds a lot like my place. It’s way overgrown so I am assembling what I need to yank or dig out trees, bushes, etc. we’ve got all sorts of vines as well - grape, honeysuckle, English ivy, and of course, poison ivy. If poison ivy were a cash crop, I’d be a millionaire.
 

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Honestly, I’ve been thinking about getting this https://heavyhitch.com/product/bucket-tooth-bar-clamp-on-sub-compact-tractor/.
I have Tiger maples and their roots are some stubborn sob’s. Watch Tractor time with Tim on YouTube. He’s got this and has done lots of brush removal etc. I can’t judge the Pirhana, but for those double spikes on the above seem to me to be very effective on heavy brush and roots. The ratchet rake is the ultimate tool, and I would not kick that outta bed for eating Cheetos
 

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Thanks! This is what I was looking for. I plan to do more brush removal than digging.



This sounds a lot like my place. It’s way overgrown so I am assembling what I need to yank or dig out trees, bushes, etc. we’ve got all sorts of vines as well - grape, honeysuckle, English ivy, and of course, poison ivy. If poison ivy were a cash crop, I’d be a millionaire.
Yeah, that's me too, but in addition to the overgrowth, I have a lot of old leaves and dead twigs/sticks/branches. I've lived here 32 years and that back part of my 2.5 acre yard has had NO attention in all that time except for the various trails I've cut through it for wildlife and hiking with my granddaughter. Now that I have a tractor, I'm doing the jobs I couldn't otherwise do. It's been very satisfying drving around back there, poking the tractor into those pile of leaves, roots, brush, twigs, brush, dropping the bucket with Ratchet Rake, and back-dragging all that crap out of there. I have hauled so many trailer loads of that crap to the landfill that the landfill clerk accused me of being a commercial landscaper and wanted to charge me commercial rates (dumping brush and trees is free for non-commercial use). The funny part is that I've known her for more than a decade. She's a patient of mine. I've operated on her. Maybe she thought I'd opted for a mid-life career change.
 

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This has been a large part of my Ratchet Rake use...remnants of stump grinding several spruce trees that came out. Man, it generated yards of this kind of mulch. I initially tried getting it out with a pine straw rake but that didn't do it. The Ratchet Rake tilled the stuff just fine, helped me work black dirt into the stuff, and now I have new grass growing like crazy.

This stuff I raked up all ended up making pretty good mulch, so I raked it into rows, and carried it back to my new mulch pile.


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Honestly, I’ve been thinking about getting this https://heavyhitch.com/product/bucket-tooth-bar-clamp-on-sub-compact-tractor/.
I have Tiger maples and their roots are some stubborn sob’s. Watch Tractor time with Tim on YouTube. He’s got this and has done lots of brush removal etc. I can’t judge the Pirhana, but for those double spikes on the above seem to me to be very effective on heavy brush and roots. The ratchet rake is the ultimate tool, and I would not kick that outta bed for eating Cheetos
You had to go and throw that into the whole equation, didn’t you? :laugh: Very impressive! I think the Ratchet Rake is going to be better suited for the initial jobs I have, but now instead of either/or I’ve got to come up with a plan for "both".

This has been a large part of my Ratchet Rake use...remnants of stump grinding several spruce trees that came out. Man, it generated yards of this kind of mulch. I initially tried getting it out with a pine straw rake but that didn't do it. The Ratchet Rake tilled the stuff just fine, helped me work black dirt into the stuff, and now I have new grass growing like crazy.

This stuff I raked up all ended up making pretty good mulch, so I raked it into rows, and carried it back to my new mulch pile.


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After


Mulch


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Thank you for the pictures. Eventually I’ll be posting some very similar. I’ve got huge sections that have been taken over by weeds, briars, and small saplings. I intend to reclaim them and after reading, watching some videos, and doing a lot of thinking, I’ll be picking up a Ratchet Rake sometime this week. I’m only a little more than an hour north of them, so I’m going to drive down and save the shipping. It’s an excuse to get out of town for part of a day, town being only in the technical sense.

Also, that’s a pretty impressive box you’ve got on the front end. I could see modifying a pallet to do something similar. My chipper is capable of turning out prodigious amounts of mulch. And I’ve got plenty to feed it.
 

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Also, that’s a pretty impressive box you’ve got on the front end. I could see modifying a pallet to do something similar. My chipper is capable of turning out prodigious amounts of mulch. And I’ve got plenty to feed it.
Thanks. I had a lot of mulch-type stuff to move around and the bucket wasn't big enough to be efficient. I had an old 4x4 piece of OSB sitting around so I laid it on the forks and secured it behind the fork frame with a piece of rope. I could move more stuff, but a lot of it kept falling off on the way back to the mulch pile so I took about 1/2 hour and some more scrap wood for the sides and threw that thing together with the idea that I'd take more time and build something better once I found the weak spots. I haven't really needed to upgrade it yet. I though about making a bigger capacity one, but as it is, the mulch I've been moving in that 4x4 box needs the ballast box.

Great idea on the chipper mulch though...you could just aim the output right into the box. I'm thinking that I can use the blower and/or pine straw rake to manage leaves into piles that I can easily rake right into the thing. I thought about using a pallet, but wanted it to be as close to the ground as I could get it so that I could rake stuff into it rather than having to shovel or pitchfork.


 
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