With the glow plugs out, will it turn over with the key? Never tried to hand crank of one this, but I would expect that it isn't exactly easy.
With R1 wheels set to the narrowest position, probably. With R1 wheels in any position, as wide, or wider than R4's probably not. R1 wheels are adjustable to multiple widths, to suit whatever the need, or task is.Are these machines more stable with R4's on them?
Wow! Glad that you're OK. I know that it happens pretty fast, but It would be informative to hear the sequence of the roll-over. By chance did the downhill front wheel hit a dip? How was the tractor positioned relative to the contour line? Anyway hope that you get it up and running in no time. Lef.
Thanks for sharing this, it is something we need to be reminded of.Well, apparently the 3039r is a little more top heavy than my old 870.
Accidents can happen to anyone, especially on a new piece of equipment or doing something different. I know you are beating yourself up but the important thing is ok and you have the right idea about using it to learn. While our ground is mostly flat, we do have a few fields that I'm very leery about- especially since they also have groundhog holes. I have the luxury of going straight up and down those even though on the contour would be more efficient when mowing.First, I want to thank everyone for the kind thoughts and comments. It is really appreciated.
I spent the day yesterday getting the tractor from where it was to a place where it could be put on a trailer and taken to the dealer. It was at the lowest piece of our property and took a lot of towing, come along-ing, winching, breaking a winch and come along, buying a 16,000lb winch, to get it there but eventually it made it. The funny thing is that the friend that was helping me is an equipment operator and has access to several pieces of equipment that could pull it easily but they are all on jobs far away.
Answers to the questions (I summarized because I am not that good at quoting on this forum):
The wheels are John Deere Stock R1 Ag Tires, they are filled with water. I do not have weights on them. They are set to the width that they are because the bulk of the work that this tractor does is in vineyard rows and I need to fit between the vines. I wanted to get with a 4 series, but for my vineyard work it would have been too wide. I am going to look and see if I can widen it a little and still work in the rows. The R1 setups are adjustable. I am also going to get weights.
I righted the machine with a small electric winch that I had, it is a little 2000lb winch and I ended up using 2 pulleys to get the leverage to tip it back up. I was alone, so I secured the winch to my pickup and blocked the wheels of the truck to use it for an anchor.
As SRG and a few others have pointed out the 3039R is taller than the 870. It also has most of its heavy components up high. The 870 has larger tires, with more water in them. I don’t know the weights, but I would guess that the 870 although much smaller in HP is heavier. In hindsight I can see that the 3039r has a much higher center of gravity and I need to be more careful with it.
I do have a Farm/Ranch Insurance Policy and the Tractor is on that policy. I do not know if I have coverage for being an idiot and doing dumb things. For now, I am not going to pursue the insurance. Because we are in California and have had several fires very close to our property we are in a “High Fire Area” and it has made it really difficult to get insurance. I do not want to give them a reason to cancel our insurance. I would rather have it should something major happens. Depending on the cost to repair I may revisit that.
I was so busy getting the tractor out of its location yesterday that I did not have a chance to take a picture of the location. I will and post it here for reference.
You guys are absolutely correct, my pride is damaged, and I am beating myself up over it. The funny thing is that I am not as upset about the money that it is going to cost as much as I am upset with myself for getting myself into this position. I have been running tractors and equipment for over 20 years and should know better. I guess we all can have an absence of judgment and make mistakes. I want to thank you for the kind words and wishes, it is helping me feel better about myself!
Again, glad you're okay.Funny thing is that I have an inclinometer mounted on my 870, guess I need one for the 3039r as well.
I recommend against this, strongly. and in fact you should be very afraid to ask that question. Every single thing you say to your insurance company, whether you make an actual claim or not, is on record and used to determine your rate or if you should be dropped. They will have on record that you called to ask about the tractor rollover. You didn't file a claim, so there was not financial impact to factor into it but it will factor into your overall risk factor for them. And that record is available to other insurance companies too. So when you want to get a new policy with someone else, they will see that too and it will effect your rate or even get you denied.I often ask my insurance agent “will this make my rates go up”. Don’t be afraid to ask him if this will make it likely you will get dropped.
I have no experience with this, however I have made it my practice to never call them unless absolutely necessary. I heard that they even track the number of times you call and keep that information on record. I guess this could be used to determine if someone is trying to take advantage of insurance, so I communicate as little as possible with them.I recommend against this, strongly. and in fact you should be very afraid to ask that question. Every single thing you say to your insurance company, whether you make an actual claim or not, is on record and used to determine your rate or if you should be dropped. They will have on record that you called to ask about the tractor rollover. You didn't file a claim, so there was not financial impact to factor into it but it will factor into your overall risk factor for them. And that record is available to other insurance companies too. So when you want to get a new policy with someone else, they will see that too and it will effect your rate or even get you denied.
If you ask the question "Will this make my rate go up" and you're told no, then you're being lied to. EVERYTHING affects your rate. Everything. If they know about it, it is a factor in your rate. It doesn't matter if you made a claim or not. It doesn't matter if it was your fault or not. Everything they find out about is on record with them and is a factor in your rate. Will your rate go up? Maybe. Will it go down? Maybe. The correct answer to "will this make my rate go up" is "maybe". Anyone telling you otherwise is a liar.
And BTW, you don't even need to identify yourself. Those a-holes will link an incident to your phone number and create the incident on your record without you even knowing it. I hit a deer. I called and asked if they need a police report, and if there was a maximum timeframe to make a claim if needed (it was 4:30am and no desire to wake the sheriff up and wait an hour). I didn't say who I was or give them any identifying information. They asked and I actually told them "no I'm not telling you that, I'm just asking a question, thank you." They linked the call to my cell phone number and opened an incident on my record. I started getting emails and calls from them regarding the accident asking for stuff and checking on me. I asked the agent "wtf how do you even know that happened, I didn't make a claim and I refused to even give them my name". He told me they link the call to the phone number and created the incident that way.
So in short, never ever call your insurance company just to have a chat with them about something you may or may not file a claim for. If you have a generic question that won't be policy specific and you insist on calling to ask them this generic question, block your caller ID (*67) and tell them nothing.