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Does anyone use a snow push? I’m buying a new machine and it has to be able to clear several hundred feet of steep partially paved driveway in the winter. I had decided on the plow but it sticks way out front and after years of plowing and breaking my plow on my sxs I know how much side force pushing into a snow Bank is. I worry about putting that much uneven stress on loader and plow. The snow push however stays straight and is closer to the Tractor and pushes evenly with both arms like the bucket. I have never used one tho and don’t know the advantages or disadvantages. Anyone have any experience with them? Pros and cons?


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Basically - a pusher is great for open lots - a plow is for long runs on a driveway.

The thing with these smaller tractors is weight - or the lack of. If you are pushing a lot of heavy wet snow with an angled plow it is going to push the tractor sideways instead of the snow pushing off to the side.

And if your driveway is steep enough you won’t be pushing snow uphill without chains and lots of weight - it will be downhill pushes only.

The way I plow my driveway I open up a big intersection and push most of the snow into a gulley. A pusher would be better for me than a plow. But for 11 years now I have been using my bucket only - works fine for me.

This was a light snow of about 4” or so - typically get 8” or more.

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Here in Michigan I use my 1025r with the 54" front blade, with rubber strip on the bottom. I plow over 100' concrete with a pretty steep grade. I have loaded rear tires, wheel weights, and run no chains. Does just fine. Seldom need the four wheel drive. I have also used the rubber blade extensions from Artillian. They work great, and flex when you hit something. However for heavy snowfall, nothing beats the snowblower. really gets the snow out of the way. Does not matter if it is wet or not.
 

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You never know how much we're going to get dumped with here. If it is an 1" or less, I utilize my Stihl back pack leaf blower. If people stay off the drive with cars until I get it cleared, it takes it right down to the concrete.

With more than 1", I use the snowblower on the 1025R as a pusher. I push it into a windrow and then utilize the snowblower with blower engaged.

Then, there is the heavy dump when it is the snow blower engaged for it all.

I had a rotary broom for the 455 in addition to the snowblower. It was nice as a clean up tool to cut through tire packed snow when people drove through it before I cleared it, but you couldn't move much snow with it or you'd snap a sheer bolt. It went with one of the 455s and I didn't replace it.
 

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Id say past experience is a factor too.

Some guys love blades and hate blowers, some the opposite.

In my case, Im a snowblower guy. My pros and cons below.
I may have left some out...but its not Winter and Im trying not to think about it until it gets here, :lol:

Blade.
The blade is nice when you dont get much snow.
You can easily clean down to the surface, and put it where you want.
Operation is generally quieter too, as you dont need to run full throttle, or PTO speed.
Its non-cab friendly too, as you generally dont get the snow your are moving blown back on you. Some of you hi performance tractors might, depending on ground speed, but most of us dont have this issue...lol.
Its generally not designed to ride up and over hard edged obstacles.
When you get tall snow banks, removing snow gets exponentially harder.
No moving parts that wear out or break except the cutting edge.

Blower
Cleans within an 1/8" of the surface.
Can be loud as you are operating at or near max throttle.
You may or may not want a cab, depending on your aversion to looking like the Abominable Snowman.
Lots of moving parts that require more maintenance.
You can put the snow where you want it, not at the edge of the drive. No big piles like with a blade.
Cost. Considerably more than a blade.

All that said, I own both and use both. Under 2" gets the blade. More gets the blower.
I feel like the blower is faster overall because I dont have to worry about where Im putting it nearly as much as with the blade. This is just a personal thing though, some guys say the blade is faster for them. The blade means big piles wherever you push it to, which can be a big problem over the course of a snowy Winter. I have yet to see anyone run out of room on their drive when using a blower.
 

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I feel like this Tractor is gonna weigh atleast as much as my Kawasaki teryx sxs. It always pushed fine but the leading edge of the blade always takes a lot of stress where it attaches to the atv and I have snapped/bent it more times than I can count. I like the idea of the snow push since it seems faster than the bucket and stronger than the blade since don’t have a pivot point. But I haven’t been able to find model number to fit the 120r loader. We don’t get enough snow to justify a blower. Usually under 6 inches. But get quite a few 2-4 all winter long. And then one or 2 larger 8-12 snows.


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I feel like this Tractor is gonna weigh atleast as much as my Kawasaki teryx sxs. It always pushed fine but the leading edge of the blade always takes a lot of stress where it attaches to the atv and I have snapped/bent it more times than I can count. I like the idea of the snow push since it seems faster than the bucket and stronger than the blade since don’t have a pivot point. But I haven’t been able to find model number to fit the 120r loader. We don’t get enough snow to justify a blower. Usually under 6 inches. But get quite a few 2-4 all winter long. And then one or 2 larger 8-12 snows.


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I use a 72" FEL mounted plow I made to fit the quick attach from my SxS Moose plow. Works great, I understand your concerns with the edges, what works for me is plowing all the snow and then I straighten the blade and push up into the piles. A snow pusher would be nice as well, I almost pulled the trigger on one at my dealer back in Feb. when they had a 60" HLA discounted down to a little under $600 but for some reason I passed on it. :nunu:
 

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In WI Ihad both a large area to clear at the top of the drive and a long run to clear with my 72 inch CTA Pusher. I would just vear off on the long runs in a couple of places and make piles along the drive. Pushed most to the bottom and piled in the ditch.

New house will be gravel for at least one winter. With e CTA I can tighten the side runners and set the rubber Pusher up a little and should end up catching very little gravel.

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In WI Ihad both a large area to clear at the top of the drive and a long run to clear with my 72 inch CTA Pusher. I would just vear off on the long runs in a couple of places and make piles along the drive. Pushed most to the bottom and piled in the ditch.

New house will be gravel for at least one winter. With e CTA I can tighten the side runners and set the rubber Pusher up a little and should end up catching very little gravel.

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That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Do you have the brand/model#?


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I use a 72" FEL mounted plow I made to fit the quick attach from my SxS Moose plow. Works great, I understand your concerns with the edges, what works for me is plowing all the snow and then I straighten the blade and push up into the piles. A snow pusher would be nice as well, I almost pulled the trigger on one at my dealer back in Feb. when they had a 60" HLA discounted down to a little under $600 but for some reason I passed on it. :nunu:
That was new for $600? That would be perfect for what i need!


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That was new for $600. That would be perfect for what u want.


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Yes, brand spanking new, still unsure what I was thinking :banghead::banghead:

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Yes, brand spanking new, still unsure what I was thinking :banghead::banghead:

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Ok. I’m on the hunt. That’s exactly what I want!! Hopefully at or near that price.


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I feel like this Tractor is gonna weigh atleast as much as my Kawasaki teryx sxs. It always pushed fine but the leading edge of the blade always takes a lot of stress where it attaches to the atv and I have snapped/bent it more times than I can count. I like the idea of the snow push since it seems faster than the bucket and stronger than the blade since don’t have a pivot point. But I haven’t been able to find model number to fit the 120r loader. We don’t get enough snow to justify a blower. Usually under 6 inches. But get quite a few 2-4 all winter long. And then one or 2 larger 8-12 snows.
Most of the stress/slop in these things comes from the mounting system rather than the plow itself. As you are probably aware, the plow that Deere wants you to use on the SCUTs is their 54" system on the front QuickTach mounting system. That works but, IMO, it has a lot of slop in it and it is a weak mounting system for the SCUTs/CUTs.

Deere also has the AF10 loader mounted plow. That has a better mounting system but right now they don't offering any hydraulic angling system for it.

There are a couple of small pushers and, as you mention, they don't have any pivot points. But that means you have to plow a straight driveway at angles to push the snow off to the side. That's do-able, but a lot of back and forth work so it isn't as fast as a regular angled plow.

The green CTA model that someone else posted the pics of is from Compact Tractor Attachments.
-Snow Pusher - Compact Tractor Attachments
(They also sell a JDQA Plow setup.)

ZMI also makes several smaller pushers with the JDQA system too:
ZMI Snow Pusher for Sub Compact Tractor - 900 Series
 

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I feel like this Tractor is gonna weigh atleast as much as my Kawasaki teryx sxs. It always pushed fine but the leading edge of the blade always takes a lot of stress where it attaches to the atv and I have snapped/bent it more times than I can count. I like the idea of the snow push since it seems faster than the bucket and stronger than the blade since don’t have a pivot point. But I haven’t been able to find model number to fit the 120r loader. We don’t get enough snow to justify a blower. Usually under 6 inches. But get quite a few 2-4 all winter long. And then one or 2 larger 8-12 snows.


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Ok. I’m on the hunt. That’s exactly what I want!! Hopefully at or near that price.


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I’ve kept my eye on pushers for a couple years now. $600 is just unheard of I’m afraid.

If it ever came time I would buy one of these. 900 or 1000 series.

ZMI Snow Pusher for Sub Compact Tractor - 900 Series

I’ve read a lot about HLI or something like that but never found them online - might be sold at dealers only? I have no Deere dealers within a reasonable distance so it would have to be an online purchase. I like the build of the ZMI and the fact they are more than fair with their shipping price.
 

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I’ve read a lot about HLI or something like that but never found them online - might be sold at dealers only?
I think you are referring to HLA here. They do have a web site but they don't sell direct to consumers. You have to buy through one of their dealers.

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I think you are referring to HLA here. They do have a web site but they don't sell direct to consumers. You have to buy through one of their dealers.

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Thanks Jim - that’s the one. At least I was correct in that they sell through dealers.
 

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Found a Frontier model which is what most of our dealers carry but was unable to get a price today from my local dealer. Says $740+ options IMG_8544.jpg The AS10F
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I too live in WI and three of my neighbors have very large walk behind snowthrowers. Three times this past winter my x728 had to plow out their driveways because their throwers just could not handle 11” of wet snow. My plow took some time but down to the asphalt for all driveways.

I now have a 2018 1025r and I’m going with the CTA 66” JD quick connect plow. I think it is $1750 with hydraulic angle. JD has a manual angle that costs more than that. You use the bucket curl lines to hook up the hydraulic angle cylinders. Will need to have 2 hoses made of the proper length if the manufacturer has not got his own equipment for hose manufacturer installed when Oct 1 comes around. They also make a snow pusher for a few hundred less. The ability to raise the plow just as high as a bucket will allow me to push back the top of snow instead of having to move the pile starting a foot off the ground. I’m sold on that feature. The 54” plow from Deere is the same as the one that was on my x728 and it wasn’t wide enough to cover the width of the tractor with the plow angled. What a treat it will be to raise a plow 6’ if I want to push back some snow. Mueller cab and CTA 66” plow and I will enjoy plowing for the first time this winter in my 70 yrs.
 

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Yep, I’m going to get that soon too. It’s big enough that even if you upgrade to a 2 series it’s still useful. It’s not too heavy, and if you keep some of the weight on the loader arms instead of trying to let it “float” then you get great front wheel traction. You can take your first run with the plow about 8” off the ground and then come back and clean up on a second pass if the snow is deeper than you can handle in one pass. And the ability to push up a pile is nice for those of us with long runs.

I tried the cheap “loader plow” for those of us with the artillian forks. I got the 3pt adapter for the forks and put a 5’ rear blade on it (backwards). It worked but I am really looking forward to the blade being closer in (a 3pt implement sticks out a looong ways), having a much taller blade (better rolls), and hydro angle (I have to dump to different sides along different stretches of the drive).
 
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