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The time has finally come to redo the stair treads heading to the basement. They are oak treads but the dark walnut worn out finish is from 1990 so it doesn't match the hardwood we refinished when we moved in, 5 of the 11 are split and it looks awful from the living room.

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So I started last weekend by getting the new treads and risers and staining and finishing them. The decorating committee preferred this stain shade even though it is not as brown a finish as the hardwood flooring. This ain't my first rodeo so I suspect the flooring will be re-done at some point to match the treads. :gizmo: (Thats not the upstairs hardwood flooring they are sitting on in the pic, thats just vinyl in the basement where I worked on them)

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After the junk that was under the stairs was moved out of the way :nunu: I took apart the old treads and risers, then put the old treads back in place with just the wedges so the stairway was usable but I can take them back out easily. Stringers are pulled together with a couple cabinet clamps so they cant stretch and have the treads fall out throwing me to the cement floor! I will leave out how many times I bonked my head on the steps as I was working from the underside. :banghead:

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The new treads were trimmed to fit and some were put into the stringers temporarily so I could see what it looked like....

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I need a good 8 hour work window to take out the old treads again, sand down, stain & shellac the stringers and install the new treads & risers. I don't think I will get that much time in one stretch until next weekend. In the mean time I need to add a couple support columns to stiffen the stringers & figure what i want to do for trim at the bottom doorway to the unfinished basement.
 

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The time has finally come to redo the stair treads heading to the basement. They are oak treads but the dark walnut worn out finish is from 1990 so it doesn't match the hardwood we refinished when we moved in, 5 of the 11 are split and it looks awful from the living room.

So I started last weekend by getting the new treads and risers and staining and finishing them. The decorating committee preferred this stain shade even though it is not as brown a finish as the hardwood flooring. This ain't my first rodeo so I suspect the flooring will be re-done at some point to match the treads. :gizmo: (Thats not the upstairs hardwood flooring they are sitting on in the pic, thats just vinyl in the basement where I worked on them)

After the junk that was under the stairs was moved out of the way :nunu: I took apart the old treads and risers, then put the old treads back in place with just the wedges so the stairway was usable but I can take them back out easily. Stringers are pulled together with a couple cabinet clamps so they cant stretch and have the treads fall out throwing me to the cement floor! I will leave out how many times I bonked my head on the steps as I was working from the underside. :banghead:

The new treads were trimmed to fit and some were put into the stringers temporarily so I could see what it looked like....

I need a good 8 hour work window to take out the old treads again, sand down, stain & shellac the stringers and install the new treads & risers. I don't think I will get that much time in one stretch until next weekend. In the mean time I need to add a couple support columns to stiffen the stringers & figure what i want to do for trim at the bottom doorway to the unfinished basement.

Looks great:good2:
 

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Working with non-catalyzed finish in an inhabited home is truly an exercise in stress managment. I rebuild a stairway in a home a few years ago where the homeowner had a cat that insisted in finding ways to walk through the finish even though it was blocked off. Once he even knocked the piece of plywood we were using to block the doorway halfway down the stairs. :banghead:

The homeowner didnt like the nuisance tax that was added to the bill. :laugh:
 

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Looks nice. I have to do that at our old house. When we moved out in 91 I pulled a larger safe for my firearms up out of the basement and it wasn't to kind to the stair treads. We moved my in laws in there and my mother in law is 96 now and keeps going. My youngest son moved in and helps watch over her. When she is gone we plan on selling it so I'll probably have to fix the basement stairs. My youngest son wants it but he can't get the concept he needs a full time job to support the house.
 

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I got ambitious last night and decided to see how well the stringers would clean up. Not too bad, but they are definitely going to have the "distressed" look when they are done! Lots of dings and divots from the years of use. If it was a LR to 2nd floor stairway I'd spend more time on it but since it is going to the unfinished basement I am not going to worry about that "look".

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Nice job Titleist1.
Looking forward to further updates as I have a question.

The suspense is killing me!! :banghead: :lol: You probably did that on purpose.

I'm worried you'll ask something i haven't thought about, can't work around, will have to rebuild the house to fix and it'll make me regret I started this project rather than wait another 20 years to do something. :flag_of_truce:
 

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Steps look great ,

just remember all that shiny and smoothness is slippery under the right conditions. Even with carpet on the steps same thing.
Ours going to the basement have carpet and even with handrail kids and myself have slid down them. The ones going to the basement under the garage were unfinished , just sanded to a smoother finish. Slid all the way down those steps , (14 I think) I was wearing rubber boots. A few weeks later , wearing a neck collar (5 -6 months) painted the steps with a sand base paint.


Yes I know anyone can still fall down a set of steps no matter what finish or what type footwear.

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Steps look great ,

just remember all that shiny and smoothness is slippery under the right conditions.
:good2: Good Reminder Gene......I'll have to think on some possible remedies for that....
 

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The suspense is killing me!! :banghead: :lol: You probably did that on purpose.

I'm worried you'll ask something i haven't thought about, can't work around, will have to rebuild the house to fix and it'll make me regret I started this project rather than wait another 20 years to do something. :flag_of_truce:
Ok, You asked.

I am curious to see how you handle the step and riser wedges.

Our house was built in 1970 and I now have a hard time keeping the wedges in. Some are missing, some are broke and a lot of them keep falling out.

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Ok, You asked.

I am curious to see how you handle the step and riser wedges.

Our house was built in 1970 and I now have a hard time keeping the wedges in. Some are missing, some are broke and a lot of them keep falling out.

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Wedges and wood glue. :dunno:

Looks like you can get behind your steps, those with no access another story.

If no access, may need to remove all the steps and put a 2x 2 2x4 something screwed or glued to the the 2x10 or 2x 12 then new step or possibly the old step could be replaced and not use the groves.

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Ok, You asked.

I am curious to see how you handle the step and riser wedges.

Our house was built in 1970 and I now have a hard time keeping the wedges in. Some are missing, some are broke and a lot of them keep falling out.
I have thought about the wedges. Most were still there, I think 3 were missing but I will make some to replace those. I was going to use pine since it is softer and would compress easier as it is squeezed in place, but maybe I should make them from the old oak treads instead? The oak seems like it would be too hard? :dunno:

I planned to put a couple dots of yellow glue on the wedges when putting them in the final time to hold them in place.
 

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Wedges and wood glue. :dunno:
I have thought about the wedges. Most were still there, I think 3 were missing but I will make some to replace those. I was going to use pine since it is softer and would compress easier as it is squeezed in place, but maybe I should make them from the old oak treads instead? The oak seems like it would be too hard? :dunno:

I planned to put a couple dots of yellow glue on the wedges when putting them in the final time to hold them in place.
I don't want to glue anything just in case I need to replace a step. In reality I need to replace one step pretty soon.
Can the wedges be purchased? I looked a couple of years ago and could not find any.
 

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Here's what I'm thinking some shims

First one in photo Red wrapping.
I have them in some locations now. They are even harder to keep in.
 

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Maybe take the wedge out and make it a tad larger than the one in place now..:dunno:
 
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