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(1) My understanding is that the TCU15881 blades that come on the 60D are a high lift style blade, is this correct?

(2) What are "Gator" blades and how do they differ from the "stock" 60D blades that come on the deck from the factory? Are Gator blades basically a high lift mulching type blade (a.k.a. chop up the grass extra fine but have more lift than a regular mulching blade)? My dealer had an Oregon "Gator" blade in stock and it seemed to be a high lift design with some very aggressive "gator" like teeth cuts on the back of the blade (opposite of the sharp cutting edge). Was this most likely a "gator" blade?
 

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Left are factory "high lift " blades. Middle are the mulch kit medium lift blades. The right one is a predator blade I got on eBay. It seemed to work well when I used it with my mulch kit.
 

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Predator or Gator blades are the same thing. They work very well. I'm waiting for my OE blades to wear out to get me a set. It's all I used on my last tractor. They do have a different sound, like a turbo or jet engine. All be it a small one. :lol:
 

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Cool let us know how you like them. When I got my mulch kit the factory blades had to ground down to fit the new baffles. The Predator blades went right on with no fitment issues. I'd like to get one of these http://www.amazon.com/MaxPower-13216-Magnetic-Balancer-Tecomec/dp/B005ESSOCY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1414522711&sr=8-3&keywords=mower+blade+balance, but they are little spendy... I'm sure once I have it I won't think twice about the $$ as I'm 35 and I know I haven't bought my last mower blade.. :mocking:

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Cool let us know how you like them. When I got my mulch kit the factory blades had to ground down to fit the new baffles. The Predator blades went right on with no fitment issues. I'd like to get one of these Amazon.com : MaxPower 13216 Magnetic Wall Mount Blade Balancer by Tecomec : Lawn And Garden Tool Replacement Parts : Patio, Lawn & Garden, but they are little spendy... I'm sure once I have it I won't think twice about the $$ as I'm 35 and I know I haven't bought my last mower blade.. :mocking:

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In all the years I've been sharpening my and other's mower blades, I've never needed anything more than the simple 2 piece $6 cone type balancers sold in HW stores and box stores. They are way better than a nail in the wall as they balance the blade flat just like that platinum plated one in the link. Now, if you are talking balancing jet turbines....:laugh:
 

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I'm still with the nail on the wall type of balancer. :laugh:
 

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Cool let us know how you like them. When I got my mulch kit the factory blades had to ground down to fit the new baffles. The Predator blades went right on with no fitment issues. I'd like to get one of these http://www.amazon.com/MaxPower-13216-Magnetic-Balancer-Tecomec/dp/B005ESSOCY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1414522711&sr=8-3&keywords=mower+blade+balance, but they are little spendy... I'm sure once I have it I won't think twice about the $$ as I'm 35 and I know I haven't bought my last mower blade.. :mocking:

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Will do! The Oregon fitment listing indicated that these fit the 60D, so we'll see what happens when I actually go to mount them. I may try the Predators if these don't work or don't work well. I'd like to find a "gator" style blade and stick with it and if it takes some experimenting, well, sometimes that's hows things have to play out.

I'm right there regarding your thougts on the blade balancer, I'd love to buy one and see how it stacks up against the nail method. I'm 36 so, hopefully I still have many more good years on my clock of playing with the adult "toys!" :)

Seems like yesterday that I was 12 years old, dreaming of owning a bad @ss machine to work on my own property with... Now I just need time to allow me to play! :greentractorride:

We need the blade manufacturers to start a "try it before you buy it" blade program, lol!
 

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I'm still with the nail on the wall type of balancer. :laugh:
I just can't make it work, I have astigmatism...:laugh:
 

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I just can't make it work, I have astigmatism...:laugh:
Hydro, When I say that word I don't know if I'm saying it right and have no idea what it means. :laugh: :lol: :mocking:
 

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I bought and tried the gator blades for my 1025R and 60D deck with a mulch kit. I removed them after about 3 mowings. My experience was that in anything less than perfectly ideal conditions, the blades left far more clumping than the mulching blades that came with the kit. By ideal conditions I mean that your grass must be 100% dry and a cutting height of greater than 3 inches and not taking more than about a half inch off the top. Maybe it has something to do with my style of grass too but for me they underperformed the Deere mulching blades. I also didn't see any increase in the "lift." The grass grass didn't appear to cut any better than with the stock blades.
 

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Great feedback, thank you! What type of grass is your lawn comprised of?


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I wish I had a better answer for you for that. I believe it to be a mixture of bluegrass/rye/fescue but I don't know in what proportions. My turf is fairly dense in most places and I've been "reclaiming" an open lot next to my main lawn that was once a hay field. I creep over a little further each time I mow, and it otherwise gets brush hogged bimonthly. This section naturally contains a lot of weeds and does not seem to clump as bad as my main lawn. I live in the northeast, upstate New York, south of Syracuse and I think my lawn is fairly typical of this locale.
 

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Sounds exactly like my lawn in Northern CT. My lawn is very dense so will have to see how the blades work out for me as well...


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They do have a different sound, like a turbo or jet engine. All be it a small one. :lol:
Oh man, I thought that the Jet engine sound on my Diesel was a result of the "Lucas fuel enhancer" I was using. Turns out it is just the Gator Blades. That would explain why the Jet Engine sound only occurs when the PTO is spinning the mower......:laugh:

Just kidding, of course.:thumbup1gif:

But these blades do have a distinctive sound. I find the Gator blades to stand the grass up better resulting in a cleaner cut and the actual clippings seem to be cut into smaller pieces than the stock factory blades.

The Gator blades are all I use. I have 4 sets of them which I rotate about every 4 weeks or so of mowing. FYI, I mow between 6 to 8 acres each week.

I sharpen them myself and I put a edge on the blade which is sharp enough to cut paper. Each time I sharpen them, I run the entire blade under a wire grinder brush and then repaint the blades with a high quality black spray paint after I sharpen them. It keeps the blades looking like new and prevents them from getting the buildup which can cause them to weigh out of balance from end to end.

I don't mind changing the blades often as I have a easy system to do it with the air impact and multiple floor jacks lifting my 455 straight up so the blades are easy and quick to change.

The new Oregon brand Gator blades I bought have a tungsten cutting edge strip, which the older gator blades did not have. The new blades hold the factory sharpening MUCH longer than the old blades did, which means changing and sharpening them less often than their predecessors.
 

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I'm still with the nail on the wall type of balancer. :laugh:
I just use the old flat blade screwdriver missing it's handle and put it in the vice and check with small bubble level.

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Oh man, I thought that the Jet engine sound on my Diesel was a result of the "Lucas fuel enhancer" I was using. Turns out it is just the Gator Blades. That would explain why the Jet Engine sound only occurs when the PTO is spinning the mower......:laugh:

Just kidding, of course.:thumbup1gif:

But these blades do have a distinctive sound. I find the Gator blades to stand the grass up better resulting in a cleaner cut and the actual clippings seem to be cut into smaller pieces than the stock factory blades.

The Gator blades are all I use. I have 4 sets of them which I rotate about every 4 weeks or so of mowing. FYI, I mow between 6 to 8 acres each week.

I sharpen them myself and I put a edge on the blade which is sharp enough to cut paper. Each time I sharpen them, I run the entire blade under a wire grinder brush and then repaint the blades with a high quality black spray paint after I sharpen them. It keeps the blades looking like new and prevents them from getting the buildup which can cause them to weigh out of balance from end to end.

I don't mind changing the blades often as I have a easy system to do it with the air impact and multiple floor jacks lifting my 455 straight up so the blades are easy and quick to change.

The new Oregon brand Gator blades I bought have a tungsten cutting edge strip, which the older gator blades did not have. The new blades hold the factory sharpening MUCH longer than the old blades did, which means changing and sharpening them less often than their predecessors.
This is great information, thank you. What is the part number for the blades that you are using? Do you have a blade grinder/sharpener? Love the paper cutting edge effort, that is awesome!


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The Gator blades are all I use. I have 4 sets of them which I rotate about every 4 weeks or so of mowing. FYI, I mow between 6 to 8 acres each week.

I sharpen them myself and I put a edge on the blade which is sharp enough to cut paper. Each time I sharpen them, I run the entire blade under a wire grinder brush and then repaint the blades with a high quality black spray paint after I sharpen them. It keeps the blades looking like new and prevents them from getting the buildup which can cause them to weigh out of balance from end to end.

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No "Simonize"? I'm surprised!:mocking::laugh:

I would be interested in a small experiment with those surgical scalpel edges. My experience indicates that after the first 20-30 minutes of cutting that edge is already gone (regular blades, not high end tungstendiamondcarbide blades) and I wonder if you would get similar results after the same amount of time.

Being an old timer ("geezer", actually!) I do not sharpen to a honed edge, but leave a rounded edge of around 1/64"-1/32" which lasts pretty much 20 times longer than the razor edge before it needs another sharpening (file!). Sticks, stones, pine cones, dog bones, etc... all bets are off and out comes the angle grinder!:laugh:
 
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