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Those John Deere Ztrak Commercial mower owners know how much a problem it is to remove the mower deck spindle covers. That little "circle key ring clip" is a pain when you are trying to clean the grass , etc for under them. When I bought my Z710A and after the first mowing I needed to remove them, I had to take a needle nose pliers to remove the wire clips, and that probably taken at lease ten minutes to do so.

Well, I have remedy that problem and no longer carry any tools to remove the spindle covers. It takes less than two seconds to remove the Quick Release push/pull clips. When I get my Quick Release 3/16" dia. 1-1/4" long Ball-Lock pins I ordered today, I will make the change over from the push-pull clips I have shown here in the photos. All these items....chrome Eye Clips, Cable Connectors, and the snap in clips all less than $9.00 from Ace Hardware.
I'm using 3/16" dia Ball-Lock pins, as that is the smallest I could locate. Besides, the hole in the mower flange doesn't have enough space to make it a 1/4" hole.

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These are the Quick Release 3/16" dia. 1-1/4" long Ball-Lock Pins I will install when I receive them.

 

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I like both of your ideas on getting rid of the little circle key ring clips. :good2::good2:

Hate those little key rings, especially when cleaning up at night after mowing.

I have some small eye clips and 3/16" small ball lock clips.

NOTE: Went try and the 3/16" ball lock clips are too large to work, but the push/pull clips work great and are easier than
fighting the key ring clip.
 

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The small hole in the mower deck flange that holds the spindle covers where the "circle key ring" clips to is about 1/8" dia. I took a 3/16" drill bit and made it larger for the 3/16" Ball-Lock pins. Don't make the hole any larger than 3/16" as the ball-lock pin won't work and hold the pin.
 

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Perhaps this won't be received too well (because of safety and what not) but mine "fell" off 250 hours ago and I have no issues with the covers staying on. I mow 6-8 acres plus and nearly a mile of rough field edges.
 

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Perhaps this won't be received too well (because of safety and what not) but mine "fell" off 250 hours ago and I have no issues with the covers staying on. I mow 6-8 acres plus and nearly a mile of rough field edges.
Well and good, but wonder how much Deere would want for one of them little black pie plate like pieces of plastic if one would
come off and you trash it?

The push/pull pins seem to be a slick and quick solution to me.
 

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Perhaps this won't be received too well (because of safety and what not) but mine "fell" off 250 hours ago and I have no issues with the covers staying on. I mow 6-8 acres plus and nearly a mile of rough field edges.

There is "zero" effect with anything regarding a safety issue here. The cable/push pin is nothing more than a device to speed up removing the spindle covers when the owner needs to clean out from under them. If you mow the acres as you mentioned, you have grass under those covers. And if you were a boy scout and they showed you how to start a fire with a piece of twine and a stick to ignite some grass and sticks, which these spindle covers holding grass has the same effect if you get my driff. My neighbor can attest to that when he had grass to ignite from the belt and spindle turning at the speed with grass so packed under the spindle pulleys.

I'm sure the JD dealer may agree they sell a few "spindle plastic pie plates", and at a modest price as Old Cajun mentioned.
 

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well and good, but wonder how much deere would want for one of them little black pie plate like pieces of plastic if one would
come off and you trash it?
tcu23581 $7.66
 

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Those key-ring types are a pain. Try removing them with gloves on? We used to remove them on our crane ATB switches; and replace them with the "Hair-Pin" type. :thumbup1gif:

The pulley cover on my previous Z737 were bolted on and the day I bought it, I removed them. Store them in my shop cabinet and I reinstalled them the day I sold it. I removed them from my Z445 also and have them stored, waiting to be installed the day I sell it.

Note: Before being scolded by the safety police, I realize it's a safety and liability issue, but my wife and myself are the only persons allowed on and near my mower. I've done this to every mowed I've owned. It makes it so much easier to clean the top of the deck.

Last weekend, a friend asked to borrow my Z to mow his overgrown back yard. I refused to loan it to him, and said I'd mow it for him. That'll work. :good2:
 

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Those key-ring types are a pain. Try removing them with gloves on? We used to remove them on our crane ATB switches; and replace them with the "Hair-Pin" type. :thumbup1gif:

Note: Before being scolded by the safety police, I realize it's a safety and liability issue, but my wife and myself are the only persons allowed on and near my mower. I've done this to every mowed I've owned. It makes it so much easier to clean the top of the deck.:

There are two here that has mentioned a "safety issue" matter with my device I've made to speed up the removal on the spindle covers on JD Ztrak mowers.
Number 1. Tell me where the "lack" of safety is here? The device is basically the same has the circle key ring clips that John Deere installed. The "push/pull clips" I have used here snaps in the same flange with hole and if you have or go buy one, try it out and see how much arm/hand/finger pressure is required to get it attached. And if it should ever come loose, the pin and cable just "hangs" and will not become a hazard to any owner body parts... no mower deck blades, belts, or any other moving object will come involved. If the spindle cover comes loose from their flanges, I'm sure it will go flying somewhere, or comes in contact with the deck belts, and that will or can happen also with the circle key ring clips.
 

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I don't think either is saying your method is "unsafe" at all. I believe they are referring to having no covers installed at all. :good2:

Besides, even if they were saying it was unsafe, you are a grown adult and can make decisions for yourself on whether or not something is safe or not. I may point something out to someone, but don't get my feeling hurt if they ignore it or downplay it. I and others feel it's our friendly duty to help others.
 

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Those key-ring types are a pain. Try removing them with gloves on? We used to remove them on our crane ATB switches; and replace them with the "Hair-Pin" type. :thumbup1gif:
I refer to those as "Devil Rings"
 

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Well and good, but wonder how much Deere would want for one of them little black pie plate like pieces of plastic if one would
come off and you trash it?

The push/pull pins seem to be a slick and quick solution to me.
As someone noted above, they're fairly inexpensive. One day I accidentally left one of the rings out and then recalled that I had mowed many acres with it not clipped and the cover never moved. And because these spindles fill up with debris quickly, I'm constantly taking the covers off so no worries on my end. They do serve a purpose but they also collect. Regardless, if I lose one, I will borrow one of the above solutions so thanks to the op for posting.
 

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There are two here that has mentioned a "safety issue" matter with my device I've made to speed up the removal on the spindle covers on JD Ztrak mowers.
Number 1. Tell me where the "lack" of safety is here? The device is basically the same has the circle key ring clips that John Deere installed. The "push/pull clips" I have used here snaps in the same flange with hole and if you have or go buy one, try it out and see how much arm/hand/finger pressure is required to get it attached. And if it should ever come loose, the pin and cable just "hangs" and will not become a hazard to any owner body parts... no mower deck blades, belts, or any other moving object will come involved. If the spindle cover comes loose from their flanges, I'm sure it will go flying somewhere, or comes in contact with the deck belts, and that will or can happen also with the circle key ring clips.

I believe you may have misunderstood my post. If so, please read this reply. If not, forgive me.

I posted nothing about YOUR setup being unsafe. I was stating what I did to my mower and that it is a safety & liability issue.

In my last paragraph, I stated: Before being scolded by the safety police, I realize it's a safety and liability issue, but my wife and myself are the only persons allowed on and near my mower. I've done this to every mowed I've owned. It makes it so much easier to clean the top of the deck.

If you re-read the statement, you'll realize it was about ME. I did not mention your name, or anything that you did with yours.
 

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I don't mind the rings, I have only removed the covers on our Z915B twice since 2014.
 

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Mine fell off a few years ago... :unknown:



I found them on a shelf in the garage...:mocking:
 

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I believe you may have misunderstood my post. If so, please read this reply. If not, forgive me.

I posted nothing about YOUR setup being unsafe. I was stating what I did to my mower and that it is a safety & liability issue.

In my last paragraph, I stated: Before being scolded by the safety police, I realize it's a safety and liability issue, but my wife and myself are the only persons allowed on and near my mower. I've done this to every mowed I've owned. It makes it so much easier to clean the top of the deck.

If you re-read the statement, you'll realize it was about ME. I did not mention your name, or anything that you did with yours.

Yep!, Sorry Michael (flyweight), poor reader on my part not taking your comments seriously. Didn't mean to get you or anyone upset over this as it doesn't matter much regarding if there are any safety issues with the device I made. My idea was just to try and speed up the problem removing the factory installed key ring clips.

I have so such grass clippings build-up under mine, and I must be the type of grass I mow, or it may be I have part of a "mulching kit" still installed on the deck.
 

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Mine fell off a few years ago... I found them on a shelf in the garage...
Maybe that's what I should have posted. :dunno: Maybe I wouldn't have been misunderstood. :mocking:


Seems lately, I'm being misunderstood.
Am I sending out messages on the wrong frequency?
 

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Seems lately, I'm being misunderstood.
Am I sending out messages on the wrong frequency?
That's online forums for ya. It happens, not your fault. Don't lose any sleep over it. If you are on any forum and frequently post, it will happen to everyone eventually. Just don't let it get to you. Politely and respectfully explaining yourself is really the only thing that can be done, just like you always have. :thumbup1gif:
 

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Yep!, Sorry Michael (flyweight), poor reader on my part not taking your comments seriously. Didn't mean to get you or anyone upset over this as it doesn't matter much regarding if there are any safety issues with the device I made.
No problem, kb. I wasn't upset in my reply. Really had kind of a little grin while typing.

My idea was just to try and speed up the problem removing the factory installed key ring clips.
And, you did a good job. :good2:
Like I stated, we had to replace the same type rings on our cranes re-locatable switches. In the refinery, we had to wear glove for any and every task. It was hell trying to remove & replace the rings. So, we did as you; and replaced the rings with "hair-pin" type retainers.

I have so such grass clippings build-up under mine, and I must be the type of grass I mow, or it may be I have part of a "mulching kit" still installed on the deck.
Grass clipping build up quite fast on top of my deck also. That is why the covers are removed.

Have a great Holiday.
 

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I don't mind the rings, I have only removed the covers on our Z915B twice since 2014.
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Nuff said. :lol:
 
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