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thumb on 260 hoe?

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I know people out there have them, but are they really worth it? I've seen some promos of BX25's with thumbs, and the rocks the gentleman was picking up were small enough to easily deal with by hand (and with more precision). I like the idea of a thumb, and the cost isn't particularly high, just not sure its a worthwhile tool for such a small hoe. Thoughts?
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The 110 is my first backhoe, I've rented and used plenty including full size excavators, but this is my first that I own. The one I found had a hydraulic thumb. For what I'm doing, and the little I've done with it now, I couldn't imagine not having the thumb. I want to clear a lot of woods and I will be using the thumb constantly to 'pluck' trees out of the ground and move them. I've taken 3 trees out so far, and I wouldn't have done it nearly as easy without it. With this said, I don't know the ability of your smaller hoe. I would still see tons of use to pick stuff up, if your cutting with a chainsaw you can pick up a log and saw it standing up, not bending over. There are tons of uses for a thumb, and it's not something that will ever be in the way. I don't see it as harming anything except a couple hundred bucks. If you can afford it, I think it would be more than useful and you would not regret it once you had it.
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I agree with you 100% Martian. Plus it is all about working with in the limits of your machine to, meaning no your 1026 is not going to handle as much as say a 110 but what is dose handle will still be easier than by hand or trying to do it with out the thumb.
just my .02 :drinks:
I don't need too much convincing! I thought I read where the 260 hoe can pick up around 250# at reach, if so, that's pretty decent- more than I can toss around with two hands!

The hoe I'm looking at is weld-on. The bolt-on variety have their advantages, but they are also a little less streamlined.

I've also priced out a ripper, too $$$ IMO (~600$). I think I can fab something for far less (probably not nearly as nice though).
Any comments on appropriate thumb length for this hoe?
The weld on is definitely sturdier than the bolt on, but for that little weight, I wouldn't think it would matter. I know Bro Tek makes a bolt on thumb for the 1026r's hoe specifically. It's not listed, you have to inquire about it, but they do make it. Might be something to look into. If nothing else find the length of their thumb to find another the right size:thumbup1gif:
Rockshaft, if you go to this thread http://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/showthread.php?3524-1026r-260-backhoe-with-new-16-quot-bucket you will find a couple of posts from me. I have a 990 with an 8B BH. I purchased the Bro-Tek thumb which is a bolt on. I have picked up some rocks now that were well over 1000 lbs. The 8B will pick up almost 1000 lbs using the boom. From there the dipper handled the rest. You will see some pictures and also a couple of movies. I also posted the specs on the 260 from JD's manual in that same post. There you will see the specs on what the 260 boom will lift. I am glad I have a thumb and would not have a BH without one.

I believe the weld on thumbs are very nice and they probably store well. (go to TBN forum and look up thumb and you will find all kinds of info) I have not welded before so I decided to go with the bolt on since it was easy to do. As you can see by the rocks I have picked up the Bro-Tek has handled these with no problem and there is no slippage or bending. It is a rock solid thumb (no pun intended). All the reviews from people were very positive about the Bro-Tek. the one negative and positive is that it uses a top-link for its support. You will see that in my pics. You have to disconnect it and store it when you are not using the thumb so that can be a pain. However you get nice adjustment capability using a top link. I bought the Top Link seperatly because Richard had recommended me to do so and he recommended a real sturdy one which he did not have in stock at the time. There is another bolt on thumb that I looked at as well http://www.extrememetalproducts.com/p163/Bolt-On-Backhoe-Thumb/product_info.html. It is a real nice design and it folds up and you do not have to remove the support like you do with the Bro-Tek. However the reviews were mixed telling of how it bent on several people and they did not have one that I could find for my 8B BH so that is why I went with the Bro-Tek. There is also one manufactured by Wallenstein as well http://www.embmfg.com/Backhoes/Mechanical-Thumb.aspx. Also the owner of Bro-Tek, Richard Breau is a great guy to work with. I am buying his ripper as well. it has very good reviews and it is solid. One other note and that is that Bro-Tek is going to upgrade their thumb to be a hydraulic controlled thumb as well in about a year and all existing thumbs will be able to be upgraded. I can see the great advantage of having the thumb be hydraulic. martian has that on his 110 and in my opinion that is the real way to go. You just have to set up the hydraulics to do so.

Here is a link with other links talking about different thumbs. http://www.bxtractors.info/page/Thumb+for+Backhoe

I hope this is helpful to you.
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Thanks for the info. I had seen some of the products and posts you mention. I had once inquired about the cost of the ripper and thumb directly to Bro-tek, but over a month has past w/o any response... I'm sure its a great product, but I'm also looking at other options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-18-inch...ps=63&clkid=7352218878268519675#ht_500wt_1202

I'm guessing the brotek can't be any less expensive than this one. I'm concerned with fitment, obvious advantage to a thumb designed specifically for the hoe you're mounting to (like the brotek).
Thanks for the info. I had seen some of the products and posts you mention. I had once inquired about the cost of the ripper and thumb directly to Bro-tek, but over a month has past w/o any response... I'm sure its a great product, but I'm also looking at other options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-18-inch...ps=63&clkid=7352218878268519675#ht_500wt_1202

I'm guessing the brotek can't be any less expensive than this one. I'm concerned with fitment, obvious advantage to a thumb designed specifically for the hoe you're mounting to (like the brotek).
I know that Richard has been pretty busy and he was away on vacation as well. I don't know why he has not contacted you yet.

I couldn't see a picture of your weld on from the link but that could be because I am at work right now and we block a lot of stuff. I will take a look when I get home.

the Bro-Tek is a little over $400 and the thumb is around the same if I remember correctly. So your $200 is very good as long as it is sturdy and will not bend etc. Just check to see if the seller has any users you can talk with or if there are any posts about it somewhere. That is all I would say at this point.

I know this and that is having a thumb of some sort is very much worth it.
Also if you want Richard's email address from Bro-Tek it is this [email protected].
I know that Richard has been pretty busy and he was away on vacation as well. I don't know why he has not contacted you yet.

I couldn't see a picture of your weld on from the link but that could be because I am at work right now and we block a lot of stuff. I will take a look when I get home.

the Bro-Tek is a little over $400 and the thumb is around the same if I remember correctly. So your $200 is very good as long as it is sturdy and will not bend etc. Just check to see if the seller has any users you can talk with or if there are any posts about it somewhere. That is all I would say at this point.

I know this and that is having a thumb of some sort is very much worth it.

400$ isn't bad, but the shipping is usually a killer for me.
If anyone has any thoughts on the thumb I linked to for 200$, let me know. I'm leaning that way with the free shipping. It seems very heavy duty- just not sure on fitment.

Thanks for your advice robpm
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Good post by Rob, remember you can always weld the bolt on, on.

Do you weld, though? If so, I think that one for $200 is the ticket. The steel alone would be close to that amount, they can't be making much profit out of that, especially with free shipping! I'll post some pictures of my thumb. I like how with the weld on you can put it down almost all the way to the buck, that way you can grip smaller stuff easier. I found this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-21-inch...ps=63&clkid=7352396759760347446#ht_500wt_1413) one as well. It's larger, less money and made by the same company. I'd take some measurements of your hoe and see what would fit best first, though.

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Try Richard again. I contacted Richard this past Saturday evening that I wanted to order a ripper for my 260 BH, got an auto-reply that he was on vacation. I then got an email Sunday, the next morning, and he sent a Paypal request. He shipped out my ripper the next day, and it is in transit.

The ripper was $380, it has good reviews. There will probably a thumb in my future, and I'll probably wait for the hydraulic option.

I think Bro-Tek is a good choice.
Shipping is not bad from Bro-Tek because he uses the US Postal service and it is just one rate. It takes a little longer than someone like UPS but there is no customs issue either. I am in NJ and I got it in less than a week but I am sure that is due to the fact that I am not far away from where Richard is in Canada. I am guessing the shipping cost would be the same to AK but I am not sure. However you cannot beat free shipping.

Also AKFISH who has posted here in the distant past (I have not seen him post here at all since I have been here) and is a regular poster on TBN did his own thumb for his BH which I believe was an 8B or a 7. There are pictures of it somewhere there on a thread. He owns a 110 as well with a hydraulic thumb. I believe he helped Martian in his purchase of his 110. And he is in AK as well.
If the thumb could fit in a USPS flat-rate box that would be the ticket. Any UPS is 10x the cost of the flat-rate box.

I've had some communication with AKFish, seems a very good chap.

I enjoy welding very much.
I don't have my machine yet- so I'm relying on someone with the same set-up to provide me with the measurement of 90deg bucket to dipper
That makes more sense! In that case I'd PM one of the many 1026r owners with a 260 bh on this forum and ask them to measure the depth of their bucket. If you can weld, the welded model is the best way IMO. You won't have to worry about it moving - ever. Just have to get some touch up JD green for that black thumb:thumbup1gif:

And yes - AKfish helped me out a ton on my search for my 110, I wouldn't have ended up with near as nice of a 110 as I have had it not been for him, convincing me to spend more money:laugh:. He's somewhere in Alaska as well, you probably know him from TBN.
AKFish probably doesn't live more than 20miles from me (as the crow flies)

I spend a fair amount of time on TBN. Problem with TBN is the crazy brand loyalty!:lol: Some of those orange users can be downright rude!
AKFish probably doesn't live more than 20miles from me (as the crow flies)

I spend a fair amount of time on TBN. Problem with TBN is the crazy brand loyalty!:lol: Some of those orange users can be downright rude!
You probably know him and don't know it! Just wait to find out he's your boss:laugh:

And I agree with you completely about TBN. After coming here, I've been spending nearly all my time here and only replying to threads I've subscribed to over there. The orange users may call us green lovers bad, but I would really like them to take a look back at the situation and see some of the things they post. Don't get me started on some of these people. I don't want to name names publicly, but there are some bad ones that drive me up a wall. You post something suggesting something different than a Kubota and they pull out the green lover card. Then they go on to say what's wrong with everything besides Kubota. It's not everyone and there is one particular that is the other shade of orange (Kioti), don't want to name names, but you probably know, who has a dealer who has told him that some JD products are flat out bad and to buy something else and they have their repair center in the front of the store. Sorry about the rant, and for those of you to ask, I do feel better now.;) All the more reason to be on GTT, the people here are MUCH more reasonable and not uppity about everything like on the other side of the fence.
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AKfish (Larry) and jenkinsph (Steve) are both members here, but unfortunately do not log in much if at all anymore. They are both great contributors-I miss them.
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