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I’ve been doing some brush/tree work now that it’s a nice temperature for working outside. I’d like a grapple but I’m not ready to pay that much. $2500 min it seems for one and a diverter. Then I saw this thumb The Thumb. It seems like quite a deal. I’d still need a diverter, but that would bring it down to the $1500 range and so easier to stomach. I also like that I’d basically always have the thumb attached instead of having to swap between the bucket and a grapple. However I am concerned with the amount of force this will put on the top of the bucket. I could get the thick plate on the top of the thumb extended at my family’s metal shop and maybe add a second one inside the bucket for strength. What do y’all think of doing this? I have the standard 53”? materials bucket on the 220r loader on my 2038r. I do have a set of Arterian forks so that does provide the base for their grapple but it’s still like $1500 for the grapple conversion and I’d want a few upgrades like the stuff to prevent things from poking through the back plate. Then a $800+ diverter.


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Why I personally do not like these:

-You will have to significantly reinforce the top of the bucket, and to do that properly will involve welding and added weight.
-You cannot see through the bucket to see what your grabbing.
-The sides of the bucket can get in the way of carrying wider loads.

But, they are certainly helpful, and many people are very happy with them and find ways around their limitations.

Also I think you total estimate on a real grapple is about $500 to high, if that makes a difference.
 

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Seems like $2500 is spot on. Sure I could cut about $300 in the fangs/debris guard but the debris guard seems like something you’d really want.


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Your post said “a” grapple, not the “Artillian” grapple. Here is a highly regarded one for $1350 plus shipping.

50" John Deere Compact Grapple - Compact Tractor Attachments
I just purchased the CTA grapple. $1350 + Shipping, depending on where you are at may be around $137. Call Jeff he will let you know. I am very pleased with mine. I just installed it yesterday and played with it for about an hour. I plan on doing a review on it later, after I use it a bit more. Not that the Artillian was out of the picture, it just did not fit what I wanted to do, as I do have the Artillian frame and forks.
 

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I like my CTA grapple and I am thinking on getting the 55" for my 2038r when it comes in. I am very satisfied with the CTA products.
 

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Seems like $2500 is spot on. Sure I could cut about $300 in the fangs/debris guard but the debris guard seems like something you’d really want.


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I have the Everything Attachments 55" Wicked Root Rake Grapple with WR Long 3rd function hydraulic kit and it is worth every penny I paid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URe8E7mBSmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCR2u_u0hk4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAVl9be0y7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjKAubBYKgE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnVqubZJygY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbRzlQytrVA

The grapples are on sale now for $1,595 and the WR Long kit sells for $837. Swapping bucket for grapple takes 1 -2 minutes.


https://www.everythingattachments.com/55-Inch-Wicked-Root-Rake-Grapple-p/eta-55-wrrg.htm

https://www.everythingattachments.com/3rd-Function-Hydraulic-Kit-p/tra-3rd-funcl.htm

Good luck

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How does that third function hydraulic kit work?


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I’ve been doing some brush/tree work now that it’s a nice temperature for working outside. I’d like a grapple but I’m not ready to pay that much. $2500 min it seems for one and a diverter. Then I saw this thumb The Thumb. It seems like quite a deal. I’d still need a diverter, but that would bring it down to the $1500 range and so easier to stomach. I also like that I’d basically always have the thumb attached instead of having to swap between the bucket and a grapple. However I am concerned with the amount of force this will put on the top of the bucket. I could get the thick plate on the top of the thumb extended at my family’s metal shop and maybe add a second one inside the bucket for strength. What do y’all think of doing this? I have the standard 53”? materials bucket on the 220r loader on my 2038r. I do have a set of Arterian forks so that does provide the base for their grapple but it’s still like $1500 for the grapple conversion and I’d want a few upgrades like the stuff to prevent things from poking through the back plate. Then a $800+ diverter.


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Since you are shopping Artillian their diverter is only a bit over $600 not $800 as you stated. That and the fangs and side guards, while nice, can be added later and save $500 at the start.:dunno:
 
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How does that third function hydraulic kit work?


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MowJoe,
The third function kit is hooked directly to the tractor's main hydraulics and provides "OPEN/CLOSE" control for the grapple via a three-position rocker switch mounted to the loader control joystick. Check out this YouTube video I made for a tour of how the system is installed....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbRzlQytrVA

Let me know if you have any questions.

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I've got a "Thumb" and it works well. In the long run, I really didn't save all that much money between buying it and buying a regular grapple. If you can weld, you will save some, but I don't weld so I had to pay someone to make a bracket for me. I bought the steel, drilled, painted it, etc.

The downside of having the thumb on the bucket is that the weight is way out there, so you're limiting your lifting capacity. I had a log that I couldn't lift with the Thumb/bucket, but was easily able to lift it using my forks which put the weight at the pivot of the FEL.

I do use the Thumb quite a bit. At some point (if I get a barn built to get my implements out of the weather) I might also buy a grapple.
 

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I've got a "Thumb" and it works well. In the long run, I really didn't save all that much money between buying it and buying a regular grapple. If you can weld, you will save some, but I don't weld so I had to pay someone to make a bracket for me. I bought the steel, drilled, painted it, etc.

The downside of having the thumb on the bucket is that the weight is way out there, so you're limiting your lifting capacity. I had a log that I couldn't lift with the Thumb/bucket, but was easily able to lift it using my forks which put the weight at the pivot of the FEL.

I do use the Thumb quite a bit. At some point (if I get a barn built to get my implements out of the weather) I might also buy a grapple.

The Artillian grapple is very compact as well-the tips are not much further out than the end of the bucket.
 

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I've got a "Thumb" and it works well. In the long run, I really didn't save all that much money between buying it and buying a regular grapple. If you can weld, you will save some, but I don't weld so I had to pay someone to make a bracket for me. I bought the steel, drilled, painted it, etc.

The downside of having the thumb on the bucket is that the weight is way out there, so you're limiting your lifting capacity. I had a log that I couldn't lift with the Thumb/bucket, but was easily able to lift it using my forks which put the weight at the pivot of the FEL.

I do use the Thumb quite a bit. At some point (if I get a barn built to get my implements out of the weather) I might also buy a grapple.
Good point I hadn’t thought about that.


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