Green Tractor Talk banner

1 - 7 of 7 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
937 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
The only way to mow. It actually looks like it was about to rain in that day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGme7XlLbWY


Here is the 3046r and the MX6. You can see how hard it is for it to go through the weeds. This is why I chuckle whenever someone says that a 1025r can handle a 5' shredder. I put over 100 hrs on that combo last summer. I have some pics of weeds much taller, thicker, and bigger than those!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5VMprBYJ7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P899YisMzE0

Tilling. Ok. So I have tilled a lot of ground, yards for seeding/sod and gardens for people. There is always a big debate on what tiller to get and whether or not to go with forward rotation or reverse rotation. I will share with you my experience and thoughts on the matter.

On my 1025r I had the 50" land pride reverse rotation for subcompacts on it. Loved it. In dry west Texas I could till to the full depth of the shoes on the first pass no matter how dry and hard the ground was. It didn't buck or hop on me. It didn't try to push me. I didn't have to make pass after pass after pass to get deep when breaking new ground. It just worked. It also left very little residue on the surface in just one pass. I would normally go over an area twice for a garden just so I could go deeper. On the second pass I would go perpendicular and the shoes would sink in an extra 3" or so. This is a small tiller so the extra depth was appreciated by the gardeners. It was not needed for a better seedbed or for better burial of debris. That was accomplished on just one pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnGZv6n1hWg


I upgraded to the woods TCR64 (at least I think that's the size) when I got my 3046r. This is a man's tiller. It is a beast and it goes deep. I thought I had video of it going through virgin soil but I guess I didn't. Sorry. It goes full depth on the first pass as do all reverse rotation. There is never a need for me to go over any piece of land a second time with this guy.

People are hesitant in going reverse simply because of fear and not because of experience. You will see that 99% of people have never used one and yet they are against them. lots are afraid of rocks. Well, I have gone through plenty of rocks. Small ones pass through without being shot out the back like a forward rotation. The big and medium ones will be rolled out in front of the tiller and will end up in a line at the end of the row. Boulders are boulders nuff said. I have had two rocks get jammed. Both were full size bricks. I have my slip clutch adjusted properly and it slipped. I stopped, rotated the PTO in reverse, rock fell out, no harm no foul. A forward rotation "walking over the rocks" puts a heck of a lot more force on the machine than a reverse kicking them in front. People also tend I say that they take more HP to run. Well, that's true and not true at the same time. The reason they may seem to take more is that they are doing more work. They are at full depth and really turning the ground over. So the amount of HP required is consistent with a forward rotation if you can get it to accomplish (which you won't) the same amount of work during each pass.

Pros:
1. doesn't push tractors at all.
2. Full depth on first pass no matter the ground conditions.
3. Much increased burial of debris.
4. Better "fluff" of soil.
5. Tears through sod from bottom up.
6. No bouncing or walking
7. No shooting rock and debris out the back.

Now here are the limited pros of a forward rotation.

1. Better chopping of tall grasses and weeds if you don't mow prior to tilling. I always mow first as should everyone either way.
2. You can drive as fast as you want as long as you're satisfied with the result you get.

Now, I'm not saying that you can't accomplish anything with a forward rotation. I'm just saying that the reverse is the way to go. Again, this is from three years of doing contract work for people in all types of soil and conditions except for clay.

I will say this, if you plow your field every time with a moldboard, then I can see a forward rotation as being a better choice. This is because you don't need to go deep, you don't need to bury anything, and you can go really fast as you are just tilling it to break up the clods. For all else, go reverse.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjQx3wuFMdQ

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456844564.567451.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456844593.964301.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456844610.840688.jpg



I threw in some random pics for anyone who's bored.
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456846900.794155.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456846919.052133.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456846948.026476.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456846968.470115.jpg
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1456846987.631027.jpg



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
6,593 Posts
Great post! :thumbup1gif:

No need to sell me on reverse rotation tillers. I love my Landpride.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
12,650 Posts
great post, and them videos-thanks! boy-I wish my ground would look that nice, I didn't see or hear any thing at all that resembled a rock their.:thumbup1gif:
 
  • Like
Reactions: TJR345 and Levi

·
Registered
Joined
·
937 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
great post, and them videos-thanks! boy-I wish my ground would look that nice, I didn't see or hear any thing at all that resembled a rock their.:thumbup1gif:
Thanks. Yeah, no rocks on my property. No trees or hills either. Pretty much just flat sand.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,981 Posts
Sorry! I could hardly see a tractor or a tiller in the video with that cute little chickie driving...:flag_of_truce:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,890 Posts
Sorry! I could hardly see a tractor or a tiller in the video with that cute little chickie driving...:flag_of_truce:
What he said.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: Milharri

·
Registered
Joined
·
640 Posts
  • Like
Reactions: Milharri
1 - 7 of 7 Posts
Top