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Absolutely correct. The corner-cutting that is inevitable with any bargain-basement price-point manufacturing always begins with the quality-assurance process. Next in that line is acceptance of lower tolerances in the finished product. IOW, they don't check a finished item nearly as often (if at all), and if they do, they have lower spec compliance tolerances for what they will ship to the customer. If you're a manufacturer, it's always cheaper to let the customer do your QA. That appears to be a business model that works for some companies such as Titan Attachments.
You are absolutely correct.

Why it works is the number of consumers that will accept the poor quality product for the bargain-basement price.
 

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I think he is probably making $5 a day.

What is relative if it is your paycheck or someone else's.

My mother always told me to treat someone else like you would want to be treated.

I take that to mean that I should not accept someone else's misfortune for my gain.
https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/welder/china

50 cny is abourt $7.25

What is relative is the cost of living...China vs USA
 

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You are absolutely correct.

Why it works is the number of consumers that will accept the poor quality product for the bargain-basement price.
Nah. I won't accept poor quality. I buy Titan's stuff playing the odds that the stuff that they ship me will be completely functional and represent good value. If I get a bad one, I'll keep sending it back to them until they get it right. If that process ever gets to be too big a hassle, I'll buy from someone else. So far, I've been satisfied with the quality and value of everything I've bought from them. I'm OK with Titan attachments.
 

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Return for refund, buy from another company that can get it right the first time, every time :lolol:
This is all a guy wants to hear.
Get it right the first time, every time.
Thank you for having integrity Kenny. Those words speak volumes to a guy who doesn’t have, or want to waste, the time with careless people. The older I get, the more valuable my time and money is to me, and to have shotty work that I paid for shipped to me like that, I’d blow my lid and would literally lose sleep being that pissed. I’d probably make a seething phone call totally berating some poor phone clerk and would get hung up on lol. Sorry OP, but that’s unacceptable. I’d have them refund and tell their story walkin
 

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https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/welder/china

50 cny is abourt $7.25

What is relative is the cost of living...China vs USA
There difference in the cost of living is more largely due to our expectations and lifestyle.

If we lived like they do, we all could live on $7.25/hr as well. And if he is the "rich" guy in his "neighborhood" would you want to be the middle class?

I have been to the orient and lived there for two years courtesy of Uncle Sam. I can tell you we are all blessed to have been born and live in this country.

Much like us the guy working in the Chinese factory is happy to have a job and support his family the best he can.

While I have no issue with the welder guy in China, I am preference has always been to support my neighbor having a job.

Nah. I won't accept poor quality. I buy Titan's stuff playing the odds that the stuff that they ship me will be completely functional and represent good value. If I get a bad one, I'll keep sending it back to them until they get it right. If that process ever gets to be too big a hassle, I'll buy from someone else. So far, I've been satisfied with the quality and value of everything I've bought from them. I'm OK with Titan attachments.
Much Like Kbar, I expect the stuff I buy to be of good consistent quality and work right, the first time. I allow for the occasional oops, but largely if it isn't right the first time I find a different product.

It is the quality I can't see right off that would weigh on me.

If I want to gamble, I go to a casino.

Glad your stuff works for you. That is the beauty of our country, we each get to make a choice. :good2:
 

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Guys, we have wandered pretty far off-topic here. We can discuss this in detail in a new thread. Let’s get back to the bucket. :good2:
 

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Guys, we have wandered pretty far off-topic here. We can discuss this in detail in a new thread. Let’s get back to the bucket. :good2:
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Kenny, your logic is tough to disagree with. However, I talked to my local dealer (where I purchased my tractor, too) and searched online for a JDQA stump bucket for a 1025R. The dealer couldn't come up with one nor could I find one online besides this one. If you have other options, please let me know what they are. Thanks!
Top of the line would be the Artillian modular system and add the "Front Hoe Bucket" they make:

https://www.artillian.com/product/front-hoe-bucket/


This is a new player on the market, no personal experience but the Facebook reviews and activity is very positive:

https://coldrollindustrial.com/products/compact-tractor-stump-buckets/
orono: Have you had a chance to check out KennyD's suggestions? (or are you still tapping that keg...:lol: )

I see you already have forks. Any chance that latter on you might want to add a grapple?
 

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Wow, thanks for posting this. I received my stump bucket last week but haven't tried it out yet. First thing I do when I get home tonight. I'm willing to bet mine won't fit either.
 

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orono: Have you had a chance to check out KennyD's suggestions? (or are you still tapping that keg...:lol: )

I see you already have forks. Any chance that latter on you might want to add a grapple?
To answer your first question....keg is tapped and oh my is that watermelon Kolsch good! Light and refreshing. Great color, subtle aroma and it's going to be great after mowing the grass (which I need to do today).

I have checked out the links from Kenny. Yes, I already have forks (Titan brand) and sometime in the future I may want to add a grapple. But before I order a grapple, I need to revisit what my intentions are with this tractor. This is a very capable tractor but the mowing quality I have is terrible!

When I ordered my forks, I went back and forth about what brand to order. I ordered the Titan brand. They have worked great for me with zero fitment issues with the forks. Hopefully when my new stump bucket get's here it will fit, too.
 

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Sounds like your have some good refreshment there. :good2:

Is Titian sending you another stump bucket?

One thing that is nice about the JDQA is that it will fit anything from the 1 series up to the 4 series.

When I purchased my forks and grapple (Artillian) I had a smaller tractor. I wanted to maximize the capability of the loader. I have since upgraded to a 3039R and am still using the same forks and grapple.

As far as the mowing quality of your machine, we have several threads here that address many of the issues folks have had. Depending on what your problem is, there might be some advice that can get you fixed up.

Keep us posted on the hoe bucket.
 

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Wow, thanks for posting this. I received my stump bucket last week but haven't tried it out yet. First thing I do when I get home tonight. I'm willing to bet mine won't fit either.
While there is an issue or two, the odds are still in your favor that it will fit. A while back the issues were more frequent, and that was with the forks. Maybe the hoe bucket is new and they are still working out the kinks... pun intended...:laugh:

Hoping yours and the OP's buckets both fit and work well for you.
 

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I purchased the artillian trenching bucket which does a nice job digging out stumps. You will need a frame to attach it to which is sold seperately and artillian "claims" it doesn't fit on any frame but theirs (of course).

But I did post about issues with a cylinder seal leak that I had to replace. I hope it wasn't from digging cuz I love my trenching bucket.
 

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Sounds like your have some good refreshment there. :good2:

Is Titian sending you another stump bucket?

One thing that is nice about the JDQA is that it will fit anything from the 1 series up to the 4 series.

When I purchased my forks and grapple (Artillian) I had a smaller tractor. I wanted to maximize the capability of the loader. I have since upgraded to a 3039R and am still using the same forks and grapple.

As far as the mowing quality of your machine, we have several threads here that address many of the issues folks have had. Depending on what your problem is, there might be some advice that can get you fixed up.

Keep us posted on the hoe bucket.
Yes Titan is sending me another stump bucket. It supposedly shipped 7/11/2019. Titan sent FedEx Freight to pick up the old stump bucket. They literally were just here to pick it up.

As far as mowing issues, I have read a lot of threads. I do not believe it is set up incorrectly. I am probably too picky and do not like the way my yard looks after using it. Sometimes my yard is soft from the rain and that causes tire impressions/ruts (I remove all suitcase weights) because of the weight of the tractor. Plus, I do not believe that the mower blades spin fast enough either so I do not get a uniform "clean cut" across the deck. I haven't tried other blades besides the ones that come on the deck (54"). I slowed my speed down while keeping the RPM's up and still, IMO, it didn't look good. Plus I'm still a bit jaded from when I had issues on the quick-connect mower (that's a whole other "sucky" story).
 

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I think Titan sources from the cheapest Chinese manufacturers they can get and sells them to the consumer. They are simply a middleman with no actual fabrication capabilities. I seriously doubt they know what the standards are for many implements such as QH and JDQA. I’ll bet they just rely on the factory to do all of that work. Slap some stickers on it and ship it out.
I believe they do make some of their stuff in-house.
 

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I believe they do make some of their stuff in-house.
Their website said otherwise. (At least it used to.) I haven’t checked it recently, nor do I care to honestly.
 

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Back to the start for me...

I hadn't heard from Titan in a few days about my replacement. So I decided to call there today. Cliff note version of the story (please note these are her comments, not mine):
1. They are refunding my money
2. The woman said that all of these buckets do not fit
3. They have stopped shipping them and the manufacturer needs to redo all of them
3.a. They are the manufacturer. No answer given as to where they are made.
4. Titan's website says that they are out of stock
5. They have to go back to the drawing board because all of them in their warehouse are like that
6. No idea when/if they will be available
 

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Sad...

Numbers 3 and 3a seem to contradict each other though?
 

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Sad...

Numbers 3 and 3a seem to contradict each other though?
Sorry for the confusion. As I said it was the cliff note version.

Hopefully for better clarification, the customer service woman said "Titan has stopped shipping the stump bucket out." I then asked "who is the manufacturer?" The woman's answer was "Titan is the manufacturer of the stump bucket and they, Titan, need to redo all of the ones currently in their warehouse because they are all built like this." She did not say where it was manufactured.
 

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Back to the start for me...

I hadn't heard from Titan in a few days about my replacement. So I decided to call there today. Cliff note version of the story (please note these are her comments, not mine):
1. They are refunding my money
2. The woman said that all of these buckets do not fit
3. They have stopped shipping them and the manufacturer needs to redo all of them
3.a. They are the manufacturer. No answer given as to where they are made.
4. Titan's website says that they are out of stock
5. They have to go back to the drawing board because all of them in their warehouse are like that
6. No idea when/if they will be available
Wow. Pretty egregious failure. Too bad you didn't get to offer to buy the thing back from them at $.10 on the dollar (or something) rather than them paying for re-shipping. Wouldn't have cost much for you to get a set of new pins re-welded for $9 apiece + welding..

Titan Weld-On Bottom Pin Fits John Deere 200-500 Series
 
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