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I'm a city boy who bought an 18 acre property. I had logging done. The yard in front of my house is small, and there is a septic mound that is a bit steep, but can be managed. Other than that, I have 1500 feet of skid trails with grass and weeds that needs mowing. I also have a ton of tree top refuse that the loggers left behind, and a few large piles of 7-rock gravel to deal with.
Now here's what happened. I found what looked like a really good deal on an X749 tractor. It only has 89 hours on it, and it's in pristine condition, and has a 3-bag grass catcher on it. I could stick with this tractor, but my only choice for a bucket on the front is something called a Tractor Shovel. I was thinking a FEL would be nice to have, as this hilly, wooded property will always have some fallen tree limbs and such to deal with. So I was thinking the 1025R would be nice. However, neither the 1025R or the X749 can just take off into the woods, anyway.
This X749 has a lower center of gravity than a 1025R, that's nice. It's like a billy goat on the steeper terrain. The 4-wheel steering is nice. I don't really care about the grass catcher. The real downside to the X749 for me is the serious pain that taking off the deck would be, and the lack of a FEL. One question I have is whether the Tractor Shovel would be "good enough" for my purposes. I could move gravel with it, and probably push tree limbs out of the way, etc. It mows very nicely (62" deck). The lower center of gravity will feel better to me. On the other side, the 1025R has a drive-over deck so that I can remove it and drive in rougher areas. And the FEL is an obvious advantage. But the higher center of gravity is a downside, and it's likely to require a larger shed for storage than the X749. And it will cost more.
I think I can make the X749 work for the skid trails; they are smoothed reasonably well. I bought the X749 thinking I could put something on the front, and at first I was disappointed to hear the choices were limited, but the John Deere 54" Tractor Shovel (LP54000) may do what I need.
Has anyone used one of these shovels? It won't be all that a proper FEL is, but I'm wondering if it would give me what I need.
Beyond that, what are your thoughts about the X749 versus the 1025R, for a newbie like me, and for whom the majority of jobs will be mowing.
Thanks!
Dave
 

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It sounds like you've already determined what you need. You got it. If the brunt of the work is at a point you want it to be, The x749 is ideal. All the capabilities of the 1-Family at a lesser expense, and better over-all maneuverability. There are some nice trailers to pull around when the need arises. Get a LS Rake, Box Blade, and you're set. Get a loader for it. JD has one that will work. If not, the CTC Loader is a great addition.
 

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The 1025 is a better tractor if you want a loader and want to use the 3pt hitch and rear pto. The X7xx is a better lawn mower and will run a front mount snowblower or broom just fine.
 

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Thanks a bunch. As I understand it, JD does not make a loader for the X749; they only make a blade and then a shovel that can be mounted off that. You mentioned a CTC loader? I'd like to learn more about that. What is CTC? (I'm a newbie).
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It sounds like you've already determined what you need. You got it. If the brunt of the work is at a point you want it to be, The x749 is ideal. All the capabilities of the 1-Family at a lesser expense, and better over-all maneuverability. There are some nice trailers to pull around when the need arises. Get a LS Rake, Box Blade, and you're set. Get a loader for it. JD has one that will work. If not, the CTC Loader is a great addition.
 

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From my take on the loader, the JD-45 loader will fit. You just need to find one for sale. CTC is another option. My previous post, the bold green is a link. Click it.
I'm sure others with more knowledge will get in here to help you out more than I can. I don't have a loader on mine. Yet.
Here's a direct link. https://compacttractorandcomponents.com/loaders.htm
 

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I had an x748 and traded it in on a 1025R in 2013 because I wanted more than a big lawn mower. Not to say a X7xxx can't do more, but anything a X7xx can do, the 1025R will do better and the 1025R can do so much more, with the correct attachments of course.

It sounds to me like you are going to be needing a FEL at least. The 1025R is allot more tractor than the X7xxx series.

With the acreage that you have and what you plan to do, I think you will be disappointed with anything less than a 1025R, although, it is your decision.
 

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The X749 is a great lawn tractor and was my 1st tractor. It mows the best of the two.
However with 18 acres I really think you would like the 1025R better, that was my second JD.

With that kind of acerage you might well be like me and wish you had the FEL and 3pt. The 1025r would be fine on the hills properly outfitted.

The two tractors are very close to being the same size but with accessories the 1025R will take a larger shed.


YOu will find that people on this site are very knowledgeable, helpful and ready to help spend your :gizmo:.

The general feeling on this site is that BIGGER is BETTER

Welcome to GTT and enjoy your JD
 

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I have a X729 and tractor shovel (below) so the same as you are looking at without diesel. JD doesn't support a 45 loader on the AWS tractors but people have found ways to mount them and they work fine. Other folks have weighed in on +/- so I'll just add one item sometimes forgotten. The ground clearance of the AWS tractors is less than the AWD-only models due to the ties rods etc. going underneath near the rear differential. I had to drag a burl out of woods earlier this spring and I had some junk to go through/over and was worried about hanging up and doing some damage to the AWS linkages. I made it okay but thought I would mention this.

If you're moving logs, I really love the grapple below.

I guess it depends on how much "rough" work you plan on doing. If you're off bushwhacking through a trail with lots of stuff, the X749 may not be the machine. I love mine though.
 

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The X749 is a great lawn tractor and was my 1st tractor. It mows the best of the two.
However with 18 acres I really think you would like the 1025R better, that was my second JD.

With that kind of acerage you might well be like me and wish you had the FEL and 3pt. The 1025r would be fine on the hills properly outfitted.

The two tractors are very close to being the same size but with accessories the 1025R will take a larger shed.


YOu will find that people on this site are very knowledgeable, helpful and ready to help spend your :gizmo:.

The general feeling on this site is that BIGGER is BETTER


Welcome to GTT and enjoy your JD



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The number of folks like me considering downsizing are few and far in-between. :laugh::greentractorride::good2:



I suspect I'll end up with a much older 3-4 series sized "toy", and a homeowner's ZT eventually.
 

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Hey folks,
I'm a city boy who bought an 18 acre property. I had logging done. The yard in front of my house is small, and there is a septic mound that is a bit steep, but can be managed. Other than that, I have 1500 feet of skid trails with grass and weeds that needs mowing. I also have a ton of tree top refuse that the loggers left behind, and a few large piles of 7-rock gravel to deal with.
Now here's what happened. I found what looked like a really good deal on an X749 tractor. It only has 89 hours on it, and it's in pristine condition, and has a 3-bag grass catcher on it. I could stick with this tractor, but my only choice for a bucket on the front is something called a Tractor Shovel. I was thinking a FEL would be nice to have, as this hilly, wooded property will always have some fallen tree limbs and such to deal with. So I was thinking the 1025R would be nice. However, neither the 1025R or the X749 can just take off into the woods, anyway.
This X749 has a lower center of gravity than a 1025R, that's nice. It's like a billy goat on the steeper terrain. The 4-wheel steering is nice. I don't really care about the grass catcher. The real downside to the X749 for me is the serious pain that taking off the deck would be, and the lack of a FEL. One question I have is whether the Tractor Shovel would be "good enough" for my purposes. I could move gravel with it, and probably push tree limbs out of the way, etc. It mows very nicely (62" deck). The lower center of gravity will feel better to me. On the other side, the 1025R has a drive-over deck so that I can remove it and drive in rougher areas. And the FEL is an obvious advantage. But the higher center of gravity is a downside, and it's likely to require a larger shed for storage than the X749. And it will cost more.
I think I can make the X749 work for the skid trails; they are smoothed reasonably well. I bought the X749 thinking I could put something on the front, and at first I was disappointed to hear the choices were limited, but the John Deere 54" Tractor Shovel (LP54000) may do what I need.
Has anyone used one of these shovels? It won't be all that a proper FEL is, but I'm wondering if it would give me what I need.
Beyond that, what are your thoughts about the X749 versus the 1025R, for a newbie like me, and for whom the majority of jobs will be mowing.
Thanks!
Dave
The 1025r has ton of different attachments a much more versatile machine for the long term. I cn see you in the future in need of a backhoe and a grapple both the 1025 can handle with ease.
 

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Look at the 1025 with 0% is hard to beat. Of course there is the new 2025 if you want more ground clearance. I have spacers on my 1025.
 

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With 18 acres and rough trails you would really be better served with a 1 series I would imagine. Your mowing might not be as nice but you are going to want the full functioning FEL.

As a correction to you thoughts on the mower decks. The x700's have drive over decks. The 54HC and the 60HC decks are drive over style decks. I have a 54HC deck on my x738 and it takes less than 2 min to either take the deck off or put it back on. If you end up going with a x700 series get the AWD version. The AWD adds way more functionality to the machine than the all wheel steer option.
 

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With 18 acres and rough trails you would really be better served with a 1 series I would imagine. Your mowing might not be as nice but you are going to want the full functioning FEL.

As a correction to you thoughts on the mower decks. The x700's have drive over decks. The 54HC and the 60HC decks are drive over style decks. I have a 54HC deck on my x738 and it takes less than 2 min to either take the deck off or put it back on. If you end up going with a x700 series get the AWD version. The AWD adds way more functionality to the machine than the all wheel steer option.
I’m with CJadamec...I would choose AWD over AWS. Personal preference for sure, but the way you’ve described your land and some tasks like skidding logs, AWD would be the choice for me. AWS would be very handy for mowing with lots of trees etc, but you do get the extra hanging tie rods etc that have been described that are not rough ground friendly.

I have the non drive over deck. I take the deck off regularly to do spraying etc. plus put on my 54” deck to rough cut. It is at max a 5 minute exercise to r/r once you get good at it, and have a creeper handy.
 

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It sounds to me like the DJCummins99 has already bought the X749.....so if that's the case, I'd try to make due with that machine. It is a great machine and capable of much. I would imagine taking a hit on trade in for a 1 series. But ultimately it's the your decision and money, and happiness that matters most, and that is a decision only you can make. Good luck and have fun:greentractorride:
 

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I see a second tractor with a loader in his future. Plenty of room on 18+ acres for a barn to house it. :greentractorride:
 

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Look at the 1025 with 0% is hard to beat. Of course there is the new 2025 if you want more ground clearance. I have spacers on my 1025.
what do you mean spacers?
 

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I’m with CJadamec...I would choose AWD over AWS. Personal preference for sure, but the way you’ve described your land and some tasks like skidding logs, AWD would be the choice for me. AWS would be very handy for mowing with lots of trees etc, but you do get the extra hanging tie rods etc that have been described that are not rough ground...
With the X749 he gets AWD with AWS.

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I have a X729 and tractor shovel (below) so the same as you are looking at without diesel. JD doesn't support a 45 loader on the AWS tractors but people have found ways to mount them and they work fine. Other folks have weighed in on +/- so I'll just add one item sometimes forgotten. The ground clearance of the AWS tractors is less than the AWD-only models due to the ties rods etc. going underneath near the rear differential. I had to drag a burl out of woods earlier this spring and I had some junk to go through/over and was worried about hanging up and doing some damage to the AWS linkages. I made it okay but thought I would mention this.

If you're moving logs, I really love the grapple below.

I guess it depends on how much "rough" work you plan on doing. If you're off bushwhacking through a trail with lots of stuff, the X749 may not be the machine. I love mine though.
The 45 Loader conversion for the AWS is rather easy
45 loader conversion project - MyTractorForum.com - The Friendliest Tractor Forum and Best Place for Tractor Information and the CTC Loader will fit as well on the AWS models as well The Only downside of the CTC Loader is the fit and Finish Sometime they fit Perfectly & some time You Have to do a Little drilling to get them to fit. CTC has Poor quality control sometimes and Poor customer service if you do run into a Problem mounting them. The 45 is more refined and will fit Perfectly weather it 2 wheel steer or All wheel steer. But finding On Can be a Pain as it has been out of Production for the last 6 years . So CTC become your only real choice for a full fledged loader for the X700 series weather X700 Ultimate or X700 signature series But there are other Type of equipment if You don't need a full fledged loader such as Johnny Bucket Sr. John Deere 300-400 series and Front end loaders for John Deere tractors | Little Buck Loader also Buford Bucket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VddFhJdfhpA

The X700 series will Pull a 4ft Brush cutter just fine used a LX4 on a JD X495 for Many Years at a JD dealer In the Past cutting there 10 acre Property. That said for Maintaining 18 acre these tractor Can do the Job. I used My Personal X485 for several Years to Maintain my 5.5acre Property where I lived and a 18 acre Property about 2.5hrs west of where I use to Live . That said a compact would be a better fit for Maintaining 18 acres on a regular Bases so a 3E or 3R or 4m or 4R Might be a Better fit In the Long run depending on how steep the Property is. There are some Hybrid Tractors that will also fit the Bill for Maintaining 18 acres as well such as a Steiner or Ventrac which are Kind of a cross between a Garden tractor & a sub Compact tractor Steiner Tractors Attachments - Steiner Turf & Ventrac Compact Tractors Attachments :bigthumb:
 

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They mount between the axle flange and the wheel to widen the track.
ah, thanks. I'm buying a 1025r because I wish a small narrow tractor so they won't work for me.
 
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