Tractor broke down - Help Please!

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Fuzzy

Discussion Starter · Nov 21, 2021 (Edited)

Hauling 8 yds of topsoil from driveway to garden today. Full ballast as always when running a full 120 bucket. Next to last scoop, I gave it a curl shake to level the dirt, backed up away from dirt pile in driveway and left tire flipped about 70 degrees sideways. Stopped moving and lifted front end with bucket. Left pivot arm lifted out of axle. What failed and what's the fix? I left it lifted and shut it down. Suggestions?

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Sundancer268

· #2 · Nov 21, 2021

This is for my 1026R, probably the same for your 1025R.

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Superglidesport

· #3 · Nov 21, 2021

It appears the snap ring (22) that secures the spindle shaft let go. It may have been installed backwards upon assembly. The square cut side should face down.

It's likely the snap ring is still inside the housing although the seal (25) may have been damaged when it came apart.

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robwheeler

· #4 · Nov 21, 2021

Sorry man, Sorry

rob

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Fuzzy

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 21, 2021

I agree that it's most likely snap ring 22. How do I get at it to put it back together?

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Sundancer268

· #6 · Nov 21, 2021 (Edited)

Look at the manual section I attached, I am sure the 1025R has the same axle as the 1026R and this section is from the official JD service manual. My manual was printed 07 April 2016 and includes the 1025R up to that date and makes no mention of any model or serial number differences.

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Superglidesport

· #7 · Nov 21, 2021

Fuzzy said:
I agree that it's most likely snap ring 22. How do I get at it to put it back together?

You'll have to disassemble the outer cover along with the wheel hub, bearing and driven bevel gear to access the spacer and snap ring. Check the bearings to make sure they're not damaged. Should be a pretty simple repair. I wouldn't attempt the job without replacing the seal and snap ring with new parts.

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Fuzzy

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 22, 2021 (Edited)

Okay Sundancer. I looked at your attachment and it looks pretty straight forward. The first thing I'll attempt is carefully letting the front down to temporarily put it back into the hub to drive it back into my garage to avoid working on it outside. Either way, I'll jack it up and pull the tire. The parts manual doesn't show it very well, but I'm assuming the case splits on the bottom for access to seat and reattach the split ring which is probably at the bottom of the oil.

So, remove wheel, disconnect steering arms, remove hub, then bottom cover. Reassemble on splined shaft attached with snap ring and reassemble everything. Regarding the seals, that wheel has been dripping a small amount of oil towards the end of this summer, so new seals will be installed. Save thousands by doing it myself and finish moving dirt.

Simple.

Thanks for the service manual attachments and immediate response. Wish me luck. I will update final outcome.

Love this forum.

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Sundancer268

· #9 · Nov 22, 2021

The big issue will to keep it clean as you reassemble the unit. You might have to get a heavy duty set of snap-ring pliers and as stated, I would replace the snap-ring and seal. Carefully look at the shaft and housing where the snap-ring attaches to make sure there is no damage on the shaft or housing.

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theduke

· #10 · Nov 22, 2021

be sure its out of 4x4

I'd be carefull about moving it . Especially stuffing it back together......spendy parts in there.

Can you block the good side of axle ( between frame and axle tube) ....remove tire on bad side......... and drive it back on 3

It came apart clean
Stuffing your vertical axle back into a splined gear isn't going to happen.....put a floor jack ,skateboard or lift it with a wrecker to get it back in garage.
At this point you only need a seal and snap ring...don't destroy anymore parts.

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Fuzzy

Discussion Starter · #11 · Nov 22, 2021

Good ideas and advice. Tomorrow, I'll try blocking right axle to frame with left wheel removed to drive it to the garage on three wheels. As I said, I can do everything where it sits if necessary, but would rather not. New snap ring, bearings and seals make total sense. Thanks again to everyone.

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theduke

· #12 · Nov 22, 2021

Harbor freight dolly under the bucket.........If only your tractor had turning brakes.

How far and how many turns to get in the Garage??

The Dead side is still going to try and spin the lower gear if tha bad wheel is rolled.....Don't let that happen.
Theres nothing to center that gear anymore........Things could go very wrong and expensive.

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flyweight

· #13 · Nov 22, 2021 (Edited)

The information on this video should help you with repair.

When he says the word, "O-Ring", he means "Snap Ring", as in item 22 that Superglidesport(Frank) posted.

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Ritz

· #14 · Nov 22, 2021

Wow, hard to believe that single snap ring is fighting THAT much force to keep things together.

Best,

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Herminator

· #15 · Nov 22, 2021

theduke said:
It came apart clean
Stuffing your vertical axle back into a splined gear isn't going to happen.....put a floor jack ,skateboard or lift it with a wrecker to get it back in garage.
At this point you only need a seal and snap ring...don't destroy anymore parts.

Fuzzy said:
Good ideas and advice. Tomorrow, I'll try blocking right axle to frame with left wheel removed to drive it to the garage on three wheels. As I said, I can do everything where it sits if necessary, but would rather not. New snap ring, bearings and seals make total sense. Thanks again to everyone.

I agree It would be best To get that tire off and run around three because it looks like the shaft coming down from the top is going to spin because the other tire is turning if it isn’t hitting anything it shouldn’t hurt anything. If you had something else they could pick the whole front end up and tow it back it would be even better. But again I think your plan will work if I understand how it works.

May be a dumb question but if you put it into 2 wheel drive could you back up with both fronts held off the ground with the bucket like your back dragging?

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theduke

· #16 · Nov 22, 2021

Maybe..........Lift front end with bucket

Lift Bad tire and rotate to try and get vertical stub shaft back in alignment with lower gear in that Knuckle

Block it there while you set it back down

You will know when its there...It will go UP where it belongs

This won't be easy or fun.

Is this on pavement or gravel..??

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driveshaft

· #17 · Nov 22, 2021

Flyweight,
You're a good person, always there to help someone. I know I appreciate what you contribute on the forum Thank You.

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Rule292

· #18 · Nov 22, 2021

Herminator said:
I agree It would be best To get that tire off and run around three because it looks like the shaft coming down from the top is going to spin because the other tire is turning if it isn’t hitting anything it shouldn’t hurt anything. If you had something else they could pick the whole front end up and tow it back it would be even better. But again I think your plan will work if I understand how it works.

May be a dumb question but if you put it into 2 wheel drive could you back up with both fronts held off the ground with the bucket like your back dragging?

I'll follow a supposed dumb question with another dumb question.

I'm greenhorn to tractors but not a greenhorn to equipment.

Won't starting and running that run the risk of pushing whatever is left inside the hub housing through the oiling system?

If there are broken pieces of the retaining ring is it possible that they might not stay where they are supposed to when the pump pressurizes the axle?

theduke

· #19 · Nov 22, 2021

All bits will stay in bottom of knuckle.

Ideally He can get it moved with Zero down pressure on knuckle.

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Sundancer268

· #20 · Nov 22, 2021

Axle is splashed lubricated, no pump involved, but if the snap ring broke, the pieces could cause problems.

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