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Went with my brother saturday to look at subcompact tractors looked at 3 different brands. He finally decided to go with a tym. It diffidently is alot different than my john deere, but seems like a decent little tractor.
 

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I am not sure what a TYM is, but as long as he is happy with it, that is all that likely matters.
 
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TYM specs usually appear that they would outperform any other brand on paper. The biggest problems tend to be ordering parts and service. 🤷‍♂️

I almost had an RK24 (TYM) but went with deere based on comfort. Back problems can make a decision that you can't see by looking at specs on paper.
 

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If TYM is the Rural King tractor, I feel bad for your brother. I sat on a RK tractor and even went up a size and sat on it and said there was no way I could sit in this seat very long at all. To me the LS was a better laid out tractor.

A coworker of mine just bought a new bobcat tractor. Will be interesting to hear how he likes it.
 

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If TYM is the Rural King tractor, I feel bad for your brother.
TYM makes the tractors that Rural King sells. But they also make other machines sold under their own TYM brand and have made machines for a number of other brands.
 

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If TYM is the Rural King tractor, I feel bad for your brother. I sat on a RK tractor and even went up a size and sat on it and said there was no way I could sit in this seat very long at all. To me the LS was a better laid out tractor.

A coworker of mine just bought a new bobcat tractor. Will be interesting to hear how he likes it.
If I recall their product launch video, the new bobcats aren't currently their own tractors, they are Korean I think? Until their engineering effort completes, then they will be selling US designed (possibly built) tractors, but that was a few years off.
 

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If I recall their product launch video, the new bobcats aren't currently their own tractors, they are Korean I think? Until their engineering effort completes, then they will be selling US designed (possibly built) tractors, but that was a few years off.
For now bocats are relabeled kioti tractors
 

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Is it just me, or does that not make anyone else nervous about the future of a product they are purchasing, if the company selling it, doesn't actually have anything to do with building it?
Seems like there could be some issues with things like parts and service availability in the long term.
 

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Is it just me, or does that not make anyone else nervous about the future of a product they are purchasing, if the company selling it, doesn't actually have anything to do with building it?
Seems like there could be some issues with things like parts and service availability in the long term.
Definitely not just you. That factor is a major deciding point on just about anything I buy. The things I look for are support from the manufacturer followed by aftermarket support. Even if the OEM decides to stop selling a part, for a popular enough brand, the aftermarket will most likely take up the slack. That can make the difference between 2 and 20 years of service. A major consideration when purchasing my 2038R, I wanted as much compatibility as I could get so parts and accessories would be plentiful. I try to tell everyone who asks me what brand to look at, either green or orange. Both have a strong following and you're sure to find what your looking for.
 

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Is it just me, or does that not make anyone else nervous about the future of a product they are purchasing, if the company selling it, doesn't actually have anything to do with building it?
Seems like there could be some issues with things like parts and service availability in the long term.
It makes lots of people nervous. Cabela's sold TYM tractors under their own name for a handful of years and then decided to drop back out of the business. So where do the people that bought them get them serviced? Cabela's laid off the few tractor techs they had. Can I call Cabela's for parts?

But TYM has been doing this for years. And they've just gotten bigger along the way.
 

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For me it isnt the seat it is the foot controls
It wasn't the seat for me either. It was the placement of the loader controls that the bracketry ended up right in my knee cap. And the foot controls were a bit close. But I'm 6'5" so most vehicles and tractors the foot controls are close lol.

The whole tractor tho was just not laid out nicely.

The biggest complaint I have as far as things laid out poorly on the jd is the 4 wheel drive lever and the lack of fuel gauge in the dash. Outside of that the tractor is laid out very nicely for me.

I didn't expect to like the LS tractor as much as I did either. I believe those are a rebranded new holland. But the tractor was nice to sit on but I definitely like the jd better as far as loader control locations and the ease of removing and attaching things like the mower deck and loader.
 

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It's a business model. That's how they keep the costs down. If there's no parts or service departments there's a lot less overhead involved. And when something does go wrong they refer you somewhere else. It's a calculated risk on the part of RK and TYM. To them, it's not a problem until something breaks or wears out and the purchaser needs help.

I looked at TYM several years ago. Thankfully I never pursued the purchase because the one local dealer no longer carries them. I also looked at RK last summer (even though the closest RK is something like 8 hrs away). In both cases, the initial purchase $ was very attractive. But without local parts/service It's a big gamble with what still is a significant purchase.
 

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It wasn't the seat for me either. It was the placement of the loader controls that the bracketry ended up right in my knee cap. And the foot controls were a bit close. But I'm 6'5" so most vehicles and tractors the foot controls are close lol.

The whole tractor tho was just not laid out nicely.

The biggest complaint I have as far as things laid out poorly on the jd is the 4 wheel drive lever and the lack of fuel gauge in the dash. Outside of that the tractor is laid out very nicely for me.

I didn't expect to like the LS tractor as much as I did either. I believe those are a rebranded new holland. But the tractor was nice to sit on but I definitely like the jd better as far as loader control locations and the ease of removing and attaching things like the mower deck and loader.
I thought LS was just a series of New Holland.
They don't say New Holland on them ?

The few new Hollands I have looked at in the past, I would say are probably second only to Deere IMO.
I like the NHs a lot better then Bota's. Though nothing I have seen really compares to the premium Deere products.
Many of the machines I have looked at side by side at different machinery shows over the years are so crudely built compared to Deere.
New Holland was one of the few brands that ever even almost impressed me the way Deere does.

I still want to buy one of these New Holland 8N Boomers some day, if I can find a super nice one for a good price. Which this 8N Boomer honestly is the only non green machine I have ever truly been interested in owning. It's such a cool looking machine.
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I thought LS was just a series of New Holland.
They don't say New Holland on them ?

The few new Hollands I have looked at in the past, I would say are probably second only to Deere IMO.
I like the NHs a lot better then Bota's. Though nothing I have seen really compares to the premium Deere products.
Many of the machines I have looked at side by side at different machinery shows over the years are so crudely built compared to Deere.
New Holland was one of the few brands that ever even almost impressed me the way Deere does.

I still want to buy one of these New Holland 8N Boomers some day, if I can find a super nice one for a good price. Which this 8N Boomer honestly is the only non green machine I have ever truly been interested in owning. It's such a cool looking machine.
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That is a cool looking tractor. I guess I didn't know ford tractors were part of new holland?

And ls are I believe built by new holland. My coworker has one. Paid a few grand less than I did but apples to apples it's not as nice as my jd. He has to unpin his bucket and loader. He told me to come test drive it when I was looking if I couldn't find one at a dealer. I liked it but the convenience of the deere won me over.
 

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Ford bought New Holland in 1985, and Fiat bought Ford New Holland in 1990. The Ford name on tractors soon became New Holland, but the blue color didn't change.

FORD TO SELL FIAT 80% OF ITS FARM DIVISION - Chicago Tribune

Here is the excerpt from Wikipedia about LS. "LS also imports New Holland Ag tractors to resell as LS-New Holland. (They originally had agreements with Fiat, which purchased New Holland. New Holland is a division of CNH Global)."

LS builds only compact tractors for NH, but not all models.

"LS Tractors is an engineering company. It is a division of LS Cable in South Korea. The group was originally part of the LG conglomeration, and was known as LG Tractors and LG Cable, respectively.

WIKI
"LS is associated with Mitsubishi tractors of Japan for technology, and many tractors are based on Mitsubishi designs, as well as use Mitsubishi engines. LS Tractor manufactures compact tractors for New Holland Agriculture. The company originally had agreements with Fiat, which purchased New Holland. LS Tractor also imports New Holland Agriculture tractors to distribute across South Korea.

LS formerly supplied base models for Montana Tractors, which were then assembled in North America and sold under the Montana brand name. This agreement ended when LS decided to begin their own imports and dealer network in 2009. They used to build for Farmtrac, a division of Escorts Agri of India, for sale in North America; and for TAFE Tractors of India also for sale in North America."
 

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Ford bought New Holland in 1985, and Fiat bought Ford New Holland in 1990. The Ford name on tractors soon became New Holland, but the blue color didn't change.

FORD TO SELL FIAT 80% OF ITS FARM DIVISION - Chicago Tribune

Here is the excerpt from Wikipedia about LS. "LS also imports New Holland Ag tractors to resell as LS-New Holland. (They originally had agreements with Fiat, which purchased New Holland. New Holland is a division of CNH Global)."

LS builds only compact tractors for NH, but not all models.

"LS Tractors is an engineering company. It is a division of LS Cable in South Korea. The group was originally part of the LG conglomeration, and was known as LG Tractors and LG Cable, respectively.

WIKI
"LS is associated with Mitsubishi tractors of Japan for technology, and many tractors are based on Mitsubishi designs, as well as use Mitsubishi engines. LS Tractor manufactures compact tractors for New Holland Agriculture. The company originally had agreements with Fiat, which purchased New Holland. LS Tractor also imports New Holland Agriculture tractors to distribute across South Korea.

LS formerly supplied base models for Montana Tractors, which were then assembled in North America and sold under the Montana brand name. This agreement ended when LS decided to begin their own imports and dealer network in 2009. They used to build for Farmtrac, a division of Escorts Agri of India, for sale in North America; and for TAFE Tractors of India also for sale in North America."
Very interesting. I guess that’s why I had always thought it was the other way around. I had always thought new Holland bought Ford‘s tractor division. Lol
Good info very interesting.
What wild history the Ford tractor has had.
 
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