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Went to 6 dealers and was told 5 different things. What I noticed is sales people don’t listen, just suggest what is on the lot or what they have. I would think sales people should have vast knowledge of every tractor they sell. My rant is over.

I currently have a 2025r. Great tractor does everything I ask if it. I only use ir for food plots, snow removal, brush hogging and the grapple in the woods. My only complaint is when I am going down the road in high range to my food plots, this tractor can’t take a hill And feels underpowered. Granted, the rear tires are loaded and usually have a disc or brush hog on the back when blasting down the road to a food plot but we have a lot of hills. I still need a smaller footprint to get in th woods.

I was told look at anything from a 2032 all the way to a 3046.
What is everyone’s thoughts? What would be a good upgrade from a 2025r that fits my needs?
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I'd go for a 2038. I have s 2032, and some steep hills, would go for the turbo if I had to do it again.
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My 1025 can't run around in high gear either.
You could look into adding hydrosplus turbo maybe.
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I would either add a hydros plus turbo kit to your existing 2025R, that mod only cost $2k, and might get you exactly what your looking for power wise out of your current 2025R. My turbo kit is on order.
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If really wanting to trade up a size, I highly recommend taking the jump on up to 3039R or 3046R.
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Why not get a trailer and haul it there?
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+1 for a turbo

2038R has alot of HP for the frame size. Anything will slow down on hills so just be prepared. My 4066 even bogs a bit with just a loader in C range WOT.
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The 2038R is still limited to a 2 range transmission. It’s also physically the same size as a 3R.
I have owned a 2038R, all be it not for very long, I really simply prefer a 3R Hands down over a large frame 2R.
‘The 3R has a tighter turning radius then the 2038, 3Rs have 3 range transmissions, just more capable in every way.
IMO really is worth the few extra bucks over the 2038R. Just my opinion having owned both.
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The 2038R is still limited to a 2 range transmission. It’s also physically the same size as a 3R.
I have owned a 2038R, all be it not for very long, I really simply prefer a 3R Hands down over a large frame 2R.
‘The 3R has a tighter turning radius then the 2038, 3Rs have 3 range transmissions, just more capable in every way.
IMO really is worth the few extra bucks over the 2038R. Just my opinion having owned both.
Agreed they all should have 3 speeds.
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Step up to the 3R; you'll seldom notice the jump in size, but you'll love the 3 range hydro, and the increase in capability.
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Can never go wrong w/ a turbo when looking for more power above 25-30hp IMO. I said that w/ my old 332 (16hp and 47" snowblower). While she did ok, just wanted more oomph outta her. Now that I have a X758 and 24 hp and a 54" blower, it's a fine match. How does this compare/relate to OP? Yes you could just simply get a bigger NA hp engine, but if you are working it a lot the turbo will simply walk over it hands down. We've owned 2 VW Passats (4cyl diesel turbo, 4cyl gas turbo). The diesel would idle along effortlessly regardless how much weight was in it and still yield decent mpg's. The gasser twists the tach more, gets less mpg's but still a gutsy engine. If I were to compare these 2 engines to non turbo'd ones, the non turbo'd would still be at the gate while the others 2 would be at the finish line.
The 2038R is still limited to a 2 range transmission. It’s also physically the same size as a 3R.
I have owned a 2038R, all be it not for very long, I really simply prefer a 3R Hands down over a large frame 2R.
‘The 3R has a tighter turning radius then the 2038, 3Rs have 3 range transmissions, just more capable in every way.
IMO really is worth the few extra bucks over the 2038R. Just my opinion having owned both.
Agreed.

The 3039R comes with a turbo that is covered by the factory warranty, no assembly required.
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We are all assuming price isnt an issue here... While I agree the 3R is nicer, I am very happy with the 2038R myself. 3R is about 550 lbs heavier too. That can be both a positive and a negative.
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If you add a turbo to your current tractor ... You don't get the extra emissions stuff the factory higher HP tractors have to add on ... So, if you want to stay away from the emissions, either bump up your current tractor, live with slower speed up hills, or trailer it ...

I'd turbo it! Of course I paid cash for my tractor, if your financing it you may want to reconsider?
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If you add a turbo to your current tractor ... You don't get the extra emissions stuff the factory higher HP tractors have to add on ... So, if you want to stay away from the emissions, either bump up your current tractor, live with slower speed up hills, or trailer it ...

I'd turbo it! Of course I paid cash for my tractor, if your financing it you may want to reconsider?
I agree, putting the Turbo on the 2025R would be the least expensive way to go, to try and accomplish a lot of what was mentioned by the OP.

Also, the tractors footprint stays in that subcompact range or class.
So, if working tights spaces is a concern then that would be another reason to simply add a turbo kit to OPs current 2025R machine.

Right now, since I don't have my turbo kit installed on my 2025R yet, just waiting on the kit to arrive.
I can't say 100% how much power gain he would get when it comes to holding speeds going up hills.

I do however have Turbo kits on 2 of my Diesel Gators and I do know they will now hold their max speeds going up hills far better than ever before I added the Turbo's to them.

Since my Gators have similar 25hp Yanmars in them, I am sort of expecting similar results from adding a Turbo kit to my 2025R.

Unless just wanting a cab or needing more the capability of a larger machine.
There is a lot of aftermarket upgrades that can now be done to a 2025R these days, not only talking in the horsepower department with adding a Turbo, but also lots of Hydraulic upgrades options available for the 2025R as well, which I have made several of those hydraulic upgrades to mine and can say firsthand that has really helped transform what I can do with my 2025R, Ie. I can now lift more with my 2025R then what I could with my 2038R. Soon will have similar horsepower as well once the Turbo gets installed.

That has a lot to do with why I had mentioned recommended either adding a turbo to the 2025R or jump on up to the 3039 or 3046R if a larger machine is really needed or wanted.

IMO there is simply too much added cost involved and very little to be gained by trading in an existing 2025R that could easily be modified for a fraction of the cost of trading up to the 2038R.

It would really take the 3R class machine to start yielding any real gains or benefits that simply can't be achieved by making upgrades to the 2025R.
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My 2038R does everything i want it to. Have had it for 250 hours and don't have any problems. That being said a 3R series with the three speeds would be nice. I don't have room for a cab but if i did I'd probaly trade for a 3046R with cab. Good luck either size would do it for you.
Price is an issue. I want stay in the mid to high 30’s if possible. Which encompasses a lot of these machines. I am leaning towards a 2032 or 2038 i think. Mostly so I can span my 60” bridge in the woods.

I believe all the three series tractors are greater than 60 inches wide
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I went from a 2025R to a 3032E and I'm really happy with it. The only thing I can think of that I would like is split brakes. I believe it's 54" wide, my 60" box blade sticks out past my tires a little.
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The 2038R is still limited to a 2 range transmission. It’s also physically the same size as a 3R.
I have owned a 2038R, all be it not for very long, I really simply prefer a 3R Hands down over a large frame 2R.
‘The 3R has a tighter turning radius then the 2038, 3Rs have 3 range transmissions, just more capable in every way.
IMO really is worth the few extra bucks over the 2038R. Just my opinion having owned both.
X2 on every single word of this post!!

I’ve had a 2025R, moved up to a 2038R, and that in itself seemed like a very big upgrade. I’ve since stepped up to a 3039R because I wanted a year around factory cab. What I got was a huge upgrade from the 2038R, it’s simply far more capable in every aspect. The 3 range eHydro is such a nice thing once you learn how to use all the features. The only real downside is that it is heavier, if that could be problematic on your property then it’s something to consider.
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Just a thought. High gear on most compact tractor will struggle with hills if you have any heavy implements or heavy weight on. In most cases it’s not really the tractor horsepower but gearing. With that in mind, like some stated, also knowing you want to stay small and nimble like the small frame 2025r, maybe finding a tractor with 3 range selector, low, mid, high range, and then factor in horsepower and you will be more happy with the upgrade.
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