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Okay guys. I am in the market for a trailer and have been reading the threads on here plus doing internet research. At first, I was leaning towards a landscape trailer, but am now moving my thoughts towards a car hauler to have multi-purpose. I know that Brian did extensive research and was torn between what he ended up with versus a tilt trailer. I just came across a company on Ebay called wholesale trailer, and their actual company is called MuleTuf located in Sikeston, MO. I can get a tilt trailer from them with a 18' long bed plus 4' of flat to put implements on for the same price as what I am seeing for landscape trailers around here. What am I missing here since I was under the impression that tilt trailers were about double? From the pictures they appear to be well built, but has anyone seen or own one of their trailers? Thanks for the help!
 

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When I was looking, I was looking at a 14K trailer. Price for a car hauler was 3K and a tilt 16 plus 4 was 4.5K.

I wish I would have bought the tilt! I was looking at the PJ tilt!

I will sell you my trailer for a great deal if you want. Then I will buy the tilt.
 

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I never heard of them, but I looked at the PJ tilts years ago as well-I just could not justify it for the little towing I do.
 

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What are you going to pull it with ? I use a 20' 10K car trailer, but I have a 3/4 ton truck. If you have a 1/2 ton or a suv it may be best to go with a 6k car trailer.

I am not a big fan of tilt trailers. They are great for hauling a bobcat or car, but for hauling multiple items I'd rather have a ramp trailer.
 

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When I was looking, I was looking at a 14K trailer. Price for a car hauler was 3K and a tilt 16 plus 4 was 4.5K.

I wish I would have bought the tilt! I was looking at the PJ tilt!

I will sell you my trailer for a great deal if you want. Then I will buy the tilt.
Thanks for the offer Brian, but if I bought your trailer, I would not have tilt either!! :laugh: Your trailer is also too heavy as I am looking at a 7k trailer since obviously my tractor does not weigh anything like yours does. I like the looks of the PJ T5, but cannot justify the 4.5k, which is why I was asking about the MuleTuf since it is 2.5k. Seems too good to be true for that price and I was wondering if anyone had experience with them.

To ejb69 - yes, I definately should have put into my inquiry what I use for towing. It is a Lincoln Mark Lt, which for the most part, is a Ford F150 Crew Cab. Thanks for your insight into a tilt trailer.
 
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I have heard of the company you mentioned in mo and have not heard anything good about them. I have purchased three of the pj trailers and can tell you I have never had anything close to the quality of the pj powder coated etc led lights. Don't buy a cheap car hauler you will hate it and it will probably be unsafe to add insult to injury. Unless you plan to haul very heavy items way more than a 1026 and stuff I would opt for the 6000 lb trailer with ramps and make sure your choice has storage for the ramps built in a good brand will have this. I like the wood floors the one I had was great with a metal floor but very slippery.
 

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Thanks for the offer Brian, but if I bought your trailer, I would not have tilt either!! :laugh: Your trailer is also too heavy as I am looking at a 7k trailer since obviously my tractor does not weigh anything like yours does. I like the looks of the PJ T5, but cannot justify the 4.5k, which is why I was asking about the MuleTuf since it is 2.5k. Seems too good to be true for that price and I was wondering if anyone had experience with them.

To ejb69 - yes, I definately should have put into my inquiry what I use for towing. It is a Lincoln Mark Lt, which for the most part, is a Ford F150 Crew Cab. Thanks for your insight into a tilt trailer.
:lol: I think I was looking at the T6, a 14K trailer. I would think a T5 should be less. 4,500 was the out the door price including a $75 plate and 6% tax.

That was a sweet trailer, but the $$$ was what holds me back. I don't use it enough to justify the price.
 

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I have heard of the company you mentioned in mo and have not heard anything good about them. I have purchased three of the pj trailers and can tell you I have never had anything close to the quality of the pj powder coated etc led lights. Don't buy a cheap car hauler you will hate it and it will probably be unsafe to add insult to injury. Unless you plan to haul very heavy items way more than a 1026 and stuff I would opt for the 6000 lb trailer with ramps and make sure your choice has storage for the ramps built in a good brand will have this. I like the wood floors the one I had was great with a metal floor but very slippery.
You say you "have not herd anything good about them". Dose that mean you have herd anything bad about them? I just took a look at there ebay site and for 2500.00 I think it is a good looking trailer, it is basic meaning it don't have LED lights or hydralic tilt, brakes on the 2nd axel is avaliable and thats all the stuff that hikes the price on a trailer.:unknown:
I need a trailer but don't have the funds, and I do not need to pull it very often so I think I would take a closer look at these when I do start looking for a trailer.:read
Now all that said, If I was using it every day or for a business, then maybe I would look at different trailers and options.
Just my .02 good luck in your search.:drinks:
 

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Sikeston, Missouri has several trailer manufacturers located there.

Jerry James Trailers http://jerryjamestrailersinc.com/
Retco Trailers: http://retcotrailers.com/
Trailer Express: http://www.trailerexpressmfg.com/
Heartland Trailers: http://heartlandtrailermfg.com/
Ja-Mar: http://www.jamartrailers.com/
M & M trailers: http://www.mmtrailers.com/
L & D trailers: No web site
Kirk's Trailers: http://kirkstrailermfg.com/

There may be more, but it's a place where you can come and just shop around for a day and then buy and bring one home. Trailers all over the place. Most of these manufacturer's will special make one for you if you call them.
 
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LED lights

I have LED lights on my trailer and dont care for them. On snowy roads they seem to get snow covered and dont melt off as they dont get hot.
 

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I have LED lights on my truck bed, and had them on my last few trailers. I intend to put them on my current trailer when I get the time. They're brighter, faster, and draw less from the electrical system. I've heard folks talk about the ice and snow building up because they don't get warm. Not a big issue down here though.
 

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Thought that I would provide a quick update as to where I am at with this. Like others have found, people selling used ones are either wanting not much less than what you can buy new for, or they are so beat up that you would need to do a lot of work to it. So I have definately decided to go new. And I have also talked myself out of a tilt trailer.

I have gotten pricing from some of the factory-direct places, and have found that I can get a similar trailer from local dealers for about the same pricing. The factory-direct places that I have looked at are Kaufman, Gator, and Appalachian. For anyone needing a 10k equipment trailer, Kaufman currently has a killer deal of one for $1,990 picked up at their Lexington, NC factory. Their car haulers have channel cross members and most of the others have angles - don't know if that should be important for my situation or not.

I went this past weekend to look at PJ trailers and really like the brand - seemed to be well made and equipped for the price. Where I am hung up on right now is whether or not I should go with a landscape or car hauler for more flexibility and the length needed. As Barry found out in another thread, he can fit his 1026R on a 5x10 trailer. But I would prefer to have a tandem axle trailer, and something wide enough to have the MMM on. I also don't know if I need a dovetail deck for loading with my mmm on with the low ground clearance.

I'm fortunate to have 3 PJ dealers within 50 miles of me, and the furthest one away has about 130 trailers in stock. I am having them quote me a C4 carhauler and will report back later. In the meantime, if you guys could weigh in on the type, length, and dovetail or not, that would be great. Thanks much for the help thusfar. :drinks:
 

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I have a 20' 10k rated car hauler from Load Trail. I had it before I bought my 1026R. It works great, but I wish it either had longer ramps or a dovetail. It would make loading easier. The only time I hauled the R on it, I backed it up (as per the manual to tow it on a trailer backwards) and the ballast box scraped just as the rear tires started to climb the ramps. It's fairly steep. I was also loading while on an incline that wasn't in my favor. So my recommendation is to check your loading angle.:good2:
 

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Deck height and ramp length will play a part in if you nee a dovetail or not.

I went with a car trailer so I can haul a car or truck if needed. It isn't much harder to tow than a landscape trailer.
 

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A very big plus with a car hauler trailer is being able to load equipment /pallets,etc. from the side . You'll really appreciate this if you have forks. My next trailer will be a hauler. I will be welding channel underneath the bottom front so I can carry the forks easily and not be taking up space on the deck. By adding the channel the full width of the trailer, I can load the forks on either side.
 
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A very big plus with a car hauler trailer is being able to load equipment /pallets,etc. from the side . You'll really appreciate this if you have forks. My next trailer will be a hauler. I will be welding channel underneath the bottom front so I can carry the forks easily and not be taking up space on the deck. By adding the channel the full width of the trailer, I can load the forks on either side.
That's a great idea. I might have to implement the Randy's trailer fork storage system, or RTFSS on my trailer.:thumbup1gif:
 

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That's a great idea. I might have to implement the Randy's trailer fork storage system, or RTFSS on my trailer.:thumbup1gif:
Great idea but some of the trailer companies offer it as a opt...:drinks:
 

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A very big plus with a car hauler trailer is being able to load equipment /pallets,etc. from the side.
I agree. Once you get a trailer, you'll probably find you use it a lot more than you expected, for all sorts of things. Being able to load from the side is a big plus. Besides, most hauler type trailers have better tie down points than the landscape type. Most of the landscape trailers just have the top rail to strap/ chain to, and they usually aren't very strong.

As for the dovetail, it just depends. I had a 7,000 lb hauler type trailer with a dovetail. It was nice, because loading the tractors I didn't have to use the ramps. The downside was the dovetail would drag in far more places than I had expected. My next trailer was the same length and style, but without the dovetail. It was great. I had no issues with loading angle for the tractors, mowers, Gator, etc. The ramps were hinged on the back of the trailer, so they got used every time. Never had any dragging issues. If I were to buy another in between the wheels type trailer, I would not get a dovetail. The trailer is already close enough to the ground that you can load most things (definitely tractors, and most cars) just fine with standard ramps, and if need be you can back the trailer into a low spot or use longer ramps to soften the angle even more. In my opinion, unless you're hauling very low clearance stuff pretty often, a dovetail on an IBW type trailer is unnecessary, and will likely just be a source of mild frustration when it drags or hangs up on stuff.
 

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I have a beaver tail or dove tail on the back of my car hauler and I will never do it again. It only lowers the trailer in back 5" (6 inch frame) and it makes me have the lights mounted out to the side. I would rather have them mounted in the rear of the trailer as they are shin killers if your not looking. Also, if the load angle is an issue, make sure you have a very heavy duty front jack that will allow you to raise the front of the trailer. I also have jacks in the rear to help take the stress off as I load heavy things.

I would go with a 20' trailer as it will allow you to load the tractor, bucket and implement and still tie it down.

I would also recommend a rub rail that is strong enough to use for tie downs. Very nice.

I am not sure if the 7K (really 5K) car haulers have different choices for springs, but it is something to look at. Slipper springs are loud, but are strong. Shackle springs are quiet but need grease Zerk's added, and torsion allows a nice axle but when something goes wrong, you replace the whole axle. There is a thread on here with the good and bad.

Something to think about with a 7K trailer. Once you subtract the weight of the trailer, you are left with about 5K of capacity. That limits you to a fairly small vehicle. A 10K trailer will have a 7.5 to 8K capacity and most will have 8 lug rims with much heavier duty tires. Tires are a big thing on a trailer as you want good ones.

Good luck buddy.
 

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My truck has a tow rating of 8,600 pounds, and since my tractor with all the implements and the approximately 2,000 pound trailer does not come close to that, I am going to go with a 7k trailer.

Thanks to all for the advise as I was making my decision. I am pretty much set on a PJ C5 trailer 14' long with a 2' dovetail (I will mainly be carrying the tractor with mower, so it would actually sit on a 10' trailer that way), fold-up ramps, rubrail, front stake pockets, spare tire, LED lights, and a pallet fork carrier. I wanted the self-cleaning dovetail as I think those are so cool looking, but my CFO is already upset for me for the large purchase this year of the tractor and I didn't want to press my luck. :laugh:

My local dealer did not have that in stock so it will be next month before it gets here as his April delivery has already been ordered. Pictures will be posted when it arrives!
 
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