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gburris
I have a JD 4066R with multiple implements to trailer to Mississippi. After securing the tractor are you required to strapped the front end loader bucket if it is attached to the loader?
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coaltrain
Yes.

Basic rule of thumb is - machine under 10k# needs at least 2 tie downs. Over 10k# needs 4. In addition to that each implement must have its own tie down.

As far as tying down the bucket plus the loader - that’s a tough call.

When I went through a DOT class with the officers who actually do the roadside inspections, we tied the loader down on a skid steer but not the bucket seperately.

I thought it was kind of weird in that the loader on a skid steer is permanent to the machine but the bucket is interchangable.
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coaltrain said:
Yes.

Basic rule of thumb is - machine under 10k# needs at least 2 tie downs. Over 10k# needs 4. In addition to that each implement must have its own tie down.

As far as tying down the bucket plus the loader - that’s a tough call.

When I went through a DOT class with the officers who actually do the roadside inspections, we tied the loader down on a skid steer but not the bucket seperately.

I thought it was kind of weird in that the loader on a skid steer is permanent to the machine but the bucket is interchangable.
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gburris
Thank you
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gburris said:
I have a JD 4066R with multiple implements to trailer to Mississippi. After securing the tractor are you required to strapped the front end loader bucket if it is attached to the loader?
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General rule of thumb to stay DOT legal is strap or chain any attachments that can swing sideways off the line of the trailer. When I pulled flatbed we secured backhoes and trackhoe arms, but not dozer blades or loader buckets that only move up and down not sideways.
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For any lengthy haul, I would strap it down. It might not be required but I'd rather have too many tie downs than no enough, especially when you hit that unexpected rough road. Just remember to not run chains/straps over hydraulic lines or sharp edges.
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Hall00
Depending on the trailer size you can get the bucket and loader with 1 chain. If you get far enough in front of the bucket and then go through the hole in the loader arms you should be able to bind the chain onto the bucket.

I never worry about the bucket, it's already mounted on the loader securely enough for me.
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coaltrain
Hall00 said:
I never worry about the bucket, it's already mounted on the loader securely enough for me.
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I agree - but is it secure enough for a DOT officer having a bad day?
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ddinham
I strap all 4 corners and then one strap across the bucket. Any other implements usually only get one strap. One thing that some people do not pay much attention to is the strength of the strapping. Some people will just use a 2 inch strap. That will work on a 1025R, but no way will it be strong enough for a 6000# 4066R. I use 4 inch straps with 3/8 chains on each end that have a WLL of 5400# each for a total of 21600#. It is not enough just to allow for the scale weight of the unit. You must also allow for the potential force that could be encountered in a wreck, for example. You don't want that tractor to end up in your back seat, or further forward.

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Hall00
coaltrain said:
I agree - but is it secure enough for a DOT officer having a bad day?
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If you don't stop, they can't inspect.

All jokes aside, that depends on where you live I suppose. Private vs. commerical as well.

Here in TX, DPS doesn't bat an eye at anything ag related. County mounties and city cops are the same way, and they don't do DOT very much anyway. It seems DPS (revenue generating gestapo) has that market cornered.
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Hall00 said:
If you don't stop, they can't inspect.

All jokes aside, that depends on where you live I suppose. Private vs. commerical as well.

Here in TX, DPS doesn't bat an eye at anything ag related. County mounties and city cops are the same way, and they don't do DOT very much anyway. It seems DPS (revenue generating gestapo) has that market cornered.
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I live in a very rural area. I think about 1 day every other month DOT will set up on the main road leading into the one horse town and randomly pull big trucks in for an inspection.

I have seen however in surrounding larger counties them to set up on secondary roads and I would only see then have landscape trailers behind pickups pulled in. Of course they are the worst offenders - usually don’t even tie down their zero turns.

I know I go overboard on this issue quite often. Problem is I used to live this stuff on a daily basis. Had to teach new hires on driving dump trucks. If anybody should get it right it’s the State vehicles.
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It may not be required by law , but anything with wheels should be tied down with 4 straps or chains. I use 4 on 600lbs atvs. I have seen a garden tractor, and a sxs come off trailers on 141 this summer because they weren’t tied down properly. I didn’t see the sxs come off, just a group of unhappy people standing around looking at it. I did see the garden tractor come off , driver switchEd lanes, tractor ended up in the ditch, driver just kept going. Not sure how far he went before he figured out he lost his load. Luckily it didn’t cause a major accident.
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JD Driver
You will want to educate yourself with the actual regulations for cargo securement in the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's online driver handbook for cargo securement.

Chapter 1: Fundamentals of Cargo Securement, Chapter 2: General Cargo Securement Requirements, and Chapter 10: Heavy Vehicles, Equipment, and Machinery are the most important sections related to hauling equipment.

The two securing devices at the rear of the equipment are the most important since they must have a combined working load limit (WLL) equal to 80% of the weight of the equipment.

All elements of the vehicle structure and anchor points must be strong enough to withstand the following forces:
  • Forward force: 0.8 g (80%)
  • Rearward force: 0.5.g (50%)
  • Sideways force: 0.5 g (50%)
  • Upward force: 0.2 g (20%)
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Hall00
4 straps on an ATV is nuts to me. But I don't use the garabge HF/HD cheapie specials with 300# WLL either. I use the 3k# 2" straps. 2 of those are just fine.

2 chains and binders is plenty for a 5k# tractor provided they are used to keep the load secure and pull down/away.
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MTB98
I think the point of multiple tie downs is redundancy. Sure you can have one chain on a 1025 that would pass all strength requirements, or even two, but if that chain comes loose you’re out of luck.
Four tie downs will hold it on even with multiple failures.
Also, anywhere a strap goes over metal use chain instead or at least some kind of rub through protection. It doesn’t take long for wind and road vibrations to saw a strap in two or at least severely weaken it. Straps and chain are relatively cheap and it only takes a minute or two to add an extra.
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Hall00
The degree of failure needed for a properly secured and anchored load to come loose isn't enough for me to worry about. There's plenty out there that also think a 3500 dually to pull a single axle trailer with a zero turn on it is barely enough.

Straps and machinery don't mix, you're right there. The biggest thing I will use straps on is a SxS or ATV. Tractor, mini-ex, skid steer, etc all deserve and get chains and ratchet binders. I don't use boomers anymore but have in the past. Chain will take a good beating over edges before it becomes an issue.
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Two days, 16 posts, and an equipment trailering topic. Yet nothing so far about CDL's? C'mon guys, you're slipping.:)
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Hall00
Somebody threw out the FMCSA regs bait...I didn't take that hook to the jaw.
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theduke
Whats a Boomer?
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Hall00
Older folks I think
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