Are you waiting for the glow plug light to go out before engaging the starter?
Trouble starting 1023e
In the morning I have to attempt to start my tractor 4 or 5 times. It will sputter and quit. Sometimes it will sputter for several seconds. When it finally makes it to normal rpms and smooths out it runs perfectly and will start fine the rest of the day. Any suggestions as to why???
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Are you starting with it set at half throttle? Manual calls for that.
Are you waiting for the glow plug light to go out before engaging the starter?
These are the first two things that come to mind for me as well. How many hours do you have on your machine and how long ago did this start happening?Are you starting with it set at half thfirottle? Manual calls for that.
EDIT: You might try cycling the glow plugs twice before engaging the starter. Also a fuel additive such as Hot Shot's Secret should help as well.
Guess it's warm there. Wouldn't think you'd need more than 3 seconds of glow plug time and certainly not half throttle.
More than likely it's trash or water in your fuel filter water settlement bowl. I'd remove and change the filter.
Think the 1023e may have one of those under-floor filters as well that may need changing.
More than likely it's trash or water in your fuel filter water settlement bowl. I'd remove and change the filter.
Think the 1023e may have one of those under-floor filters as well that may need changing.
Yes, every time.Are you waiting for the glow plug light to go out before engaging the starter?
Tried it both ways…1/2 throttle and idling.Are you starting with it set at half throttle? Manual calls for that.
I have about 200 hours on it. I think it started about year after I bought it.These are the first two things that come to mind for me as well. How many hours do you have on your machine and how long ago did this start happening?
EDIT: You might try cycling the glow plugs twice before engaging the starter. Also a fuel additive such as Hot Shot's Secret should help as well.
Sounds to me like a leak back in the fuel system. Sometimes if you change a fuel filter and don't get the new one sealed properly it will let the fuel leak back when sitting.
Double check the connections to the fuel filter and how the sediment filter bowl is attached properly.
Double check the connections to the fuel filter and how the sediment filter bowl is attached properly.
You might want to take a look (with a meter) and see whether the GP's are being energized, it's possible the GP relay failed or whatever. Also ohm the plugs out and see if perhaps you've got a failed one.
Also I believe I read somewhere that newer 1 series tractors have different programming to keep the glow plugs energized for a few seconds after engine start, while the older ones only energized them for the preheat cycle.
Also I believe I read somewhere that newer 1 series tractors have different programming to keep the glow plugs energized for a few seconds after engine start, while the older ones only energized them for the preheat cycle.
Thanks
Sounds to me like a leak back in the fuel system. Sometimes if you change a fuel filter and don't get the new one sealed properly it will let the fuel leak back when sitting.
Double check the connections to the fuel filter and how the sediment filter bowl is attached properly.
Change the baby fuel filter under the floorboard. If that doesn't solve it, change the main fuel filter on the side of the engine. Forget about the glow plugs. A solid diesel engine doesn't need glow plugs this time of year in North America... unless your keeping the tractor in a freezer.
You say you have 200 hrs on it now. Have you done the 200 hr service? (which includes fuel filters anyways)
You say you have 200 hrs on it now. Have you done the 200 hr service? (which includes fuel filters anyways)
I did not do the filter under the floor board. Will do that. Thanks
The baby fuel filter is probably the #1 cause of the symptoms you described. We've seen it numerous times on the forum. Get at least 2. They're cheap and you'll have one on hand as a backup.
Will do, thanks.
OK, I am really intimidated by Kyle's obvious knowledge that has been displayed across all of GTT...Change the baby fuel filter under the floorboard. If that doesn't solve it, change the main fuel filter on the side of the engine. Forget about the glow plugs. A solid diesel engine doesn't need glow plugs this time of year in North America... unless your keeping the tractor in a freezer.
You say you have 200 hrs on it now. Have you done the 200 hr service? (which includes fuel filters anyways)
But - I just feel that it might be pertinent to point out that the 3 cylinder Yanmar engines used on the 1023,1025,&2025 are Indirect Injection Diesel Engines, which use glow plugs to initiate combustion - as opposed to relying purely on the heat created by compression as in direct injection diesel engines. The electrical current heating prior to starting is only for the initial "pre-combustion" in the injection chamber. Once started, the glow plugs retain heat from the regular ongoing combustion. Without glow-plugs these engines cannot even operate.
Now, that said - I would absolutely follow Kyle's advice for this particular problem. Please let us know if changing the (ignorantly placed, IMHO) "baby" fuel filter fixes your problem.
Now I'm curious! I may unplug my GP Relay later and see what happens......
That's not a bad idea - let's see if all my "book learnin' " holds up in the real world....Now I'm curious! I may unplug my GP Relay later and see what happens......
Will do. I’m probably all wrong but my logic says something like glow plugs only because once it starts it runs perfectly. I would think a fuel filter would possibly cause issues even after starting.OK, I am really intimidated by Kyle's obvious knowledge that has been displayed across all of GTT...
But - I just feel that it might be pertinent to point out that the 3 cylinder Yanmar engines used on the 1023,1025,&2025 are Indirect Injection Diesel Engines, which use glow plugs to initiate combustion - as opposed to relying purely on the heat created by compression as in direct injection diesel engines. The electrical current heating prior to starting is only for the initial "pre-combustion" in the injection chamber. Once started, the glow plugs retain heat from the regular ongoing combustion. Without glow-plugs these engines cannot even operate.
Now, that said - I would absolutely follow Kyle's advice for this particular problem. Please let us know if changing the (ignorantly placed, IMHO) "baby" fuel filter fixes your problem.
That was my thoughts as well. However, Kyle has seen EVERYTHING on GTT for a very long time - so I would never discount his advice offhand.Will do. I’m probably all wrong but my logic says something like glow plugs only because once it starts it runs perfectly. I would think a fuel filter would possibly cause issues even after starting.
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